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Were it not for the Iranians |
From the website:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17421.shtml
Were it not for the Iranians
Aug 25, 2006
Ali Mostofi - Persian Journal
One of the most typical examples of the sort of
commentary that is pro Islamist is in this article
from Asia Times Iran's 'crisis' of overconfidence. It states:
"And Iran is wasting no time flexing
its power, both hard and soft. Iranian armed forces
conspicuously kicked off the first stage of massive
war games this week along border areas. Dubbed 'Blow
of Zulqifar' after the sword of the Imam Ali, the
exercises appear to have been intended to send a
message to hawks in the US and Israel that Iran, with
its rugged terrain, embedded nuclear facilities and
robust military, is another class of
foe."
forgot
The author of this article, we assume is very
intelligent, but somehow does not care to look at what
secular Iranians think. He totally disregards the 5000
years of Iranian spirit that existed before Islam.
Somehow 1400 years of Islamic attitude has a higher
moral ground than anything else. Somehow he seems to
forget Zend-Avesta that is the source of Cyrus's
inspiration to write Declaration of Human Rights.
ignoramibus
Good Iranians do not waste the people money on
promoting war in the name of dogma. But ultimately the
fault is the Iranian Opposition. They have not managed
to enforce a common discipline to show the world that
Old Iranian philosophy is more powerful and more
embracing to the world. The world currently follows
the slogan of "Western Democracy" and "Western
Freedom". We are told that the world is split between
the "Western Ideals" and the "Eastern Ideals". The
Iranian Opposition has not done enough to educate the
world media.
thin air
But wait a minute, the "Western Ideals" didn't just
appear out of thin air? Now I am going to jump speed
into another dimension, so stay with me. If it were
not for the successful proselytizing efforts of the
Christians to convert the high priest of Iran in the
Sassanian times, we would not all be going down this
path together. There are then some of us in Iran who
suffered deeply from what Salman Farsi did. Rouzbe
managed to convince an old Arab called Halabi Qureshi;
that he was descended from Abraham second wife's son;
that he should use Iranian war tactics to defeat
Medina; and turn day into night (on the moment of
Eclipse) and earn the title of Mohammed from the
people.
christians
Jump with me again. Where did the Christians come
from? They only got their stamp of approval after
three Iranian Astrologers (called Magi, which is
derived from the Persian word meaning brain)
calculated an important delineation in the Planets.
Again we see how the Iranian mind set forth a certain
set of chain reactions that were to change the history
of the world. If it were not for the Iranians,
Christians would not exist.
jews
Now let's jump again, this time to the 6th Century BC,
when the Jews were freed only because of the desire of
the Iranian Emperor Cyrus the Great to use the
Humanistic principles of the Zend-Avesta. If were not
for the fact that such an event took place, the people
of Israel would not exist, and Judaism would have been
"wipe-out" a long time ago.
shiites
Now let's get in the time machine, and jump again
forward to the 11th Century. Did you know that
Iranians were not Moslem at that time. They were
Bhuddist and Nestorian Christians under the Monguls
Emperors that allowed Iranian literature to blossom
again. People were allowed to read other books than
the Koran. The greatest poets of Iran (such as Hafez
and Ferdowsi) were born and the greatest poetry of
Iran began. But at the same time a man called Al-Hilli
came along and managed to promote stern principles,
that converted the Mogul ruler and Iranians became
Shiites, in the belief that religious hierarchy is
hereditary. So Iran now is ruled a dynasty and all the
dignitaries are exclusive (called Seyyeds) as decreed
by Al-Hilli who created the first Seyeed school in
Shiraz.
existence
So the situation that Iran is in at present, is a
culmination of all these deeds. We Iranians are the
result of the Good Deeds we did when we released the
Jews, recognized Jesus Christ, and Mohammed. But more
important is the fact that if we Iranians had not
recognized these people, the world would not have
had these people. But the irony is that in recognizing
all these people, we nearly ended up losing our own
identity; so much that most of the intelligent
historian of the world do not mention any of the
above. And so it must come to this point in the
history of mankind, that the world needs to give back
to Iran it true identity by referring to it regularly.
powerful argument
It is the duty of the Iranian Opposition to safeguard
the identity of Iran. We Iranians in Opposition
must remind the world media regularly what we
Iranian contributed to the world. The Jews, the
Christians, and especially the Moslem must recognize
the true history. It is about time to speak the truth
and give Iran the respect it deserves. Iranians are
not akin to the warmongerings that this little dark
man (as Nostradamus calls him) creates. We Iranians do
not want to force other countries to follow an alien
doctrine that is best left in Najaf.
halt
The children of Iran know that they can if they wished
remove this kind by just talking about a national
strike. Talk of the country coming to a halt will make
the folks in Qom shiver. The secular silent majority
of Iran have the power of apathy towards the Islamist
Fascists in power. The Fascists have no powerful
argument against the silent majority's people dictum
of non violent general strike. And the civilized
Iranian people will change Iran non violently by
themselves.
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27 Aug 2006 11:42:57 AM |
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http://www.jnewswire.com/article/993
Iran to Germany: Help us deal with Israel
Ahmadinejad asks Merkel to put on Nazi boots?
By Ryan Jones
July 21, 2006
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad apparently believes that all Germany
needs is a little nudge to revert to its Nazi ways and hatred of the Jews,
and so has asked Berlin to help him deal with Jewish state.
Nazi leader Adolf Hitler is a favorite in the Muslim world (his Mein Kampf
is a perennial best-seller), and has been invoked by Ahmadinejad on several
occasions as he called for the destruction of Israel.
In a letter to Chancellor Angela Merkel this week, Ahmadinejad came
worryingly close to asking the German leader to emulate the Fuhrer.
A German official who has seen the letter spoke to Reuters on condition of
anonymity:
"It's all related to Germany and how we have to find a solution to the
Palestinian problems and Zionism and so on. It's rather weird."
"There are a lot of propaganda phrases about Israel and the Jews inside."
Ahmadinejad has openly stated his desire to see Israel "wiped off the map,"
and has warned the West that if it does not eliminate the Israeli "cancer"
by absorbing the nation's six million Jews, the Muslim world will deal with
the problem in its own manner.
--------------------
It has been going on for quite a while, ever since Hitler's fiction about
the Aryan:
-------------------
http://www.bankingonbaghdad.com/archive/IranDenial/BTJ1212205/
Exposing Iran's Nazi Links
Edwin Black
DECEMBER 22, 2005 Washington
Iran's president has shot to the forefront of Holocaust denial in recent
days, but it may seem more like self-denial: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad need only
look to his country's Hitler-era past to discover that Iran and Iranians
were connected to the Holocaust and the Nazi regime, as was the larger Arab
and Islamic world under the leadership of the mufti of Jerusalem.
Iran's links to the Third Reich began during the pre-World War II years when
it welcomed Gestapo agents and other operatives to Tehran, allowing them to
use it as a Middle East base for agitation against the British and the
region's Jews.
Key among these Gestapo men was Fritz Grobba, Berlin's envoy to the Middle
East, and often called "the German Lawrence" because he promised a Pan-Arab
state stretching from Casablanca to Tehran.
Relations between Berlin and Tehran were strong from the moment Hitler came
to power in 1933, when Reza Shah Pahlavi's nation was still known as Persia.
The shah became a stalwart admirer of Hitler, Nazism and the concept of the
Aryan master race. He also sought the Nazis' help in reducing British
petro-political domination.
So intense was the shah's identification with the Third Reich that in 1935
he renamed his ancient country "Iran," which in Farsi means Aryan and refers
to the Proto-Indo-European lineage that Nazi racial theorists and Persian
ethnologists cherished.
The idea for the name change was suggested by the Iranian ambassador to
Germany, who came under the influence of Hitler's trusted banker Hjalmar
Schacht. From that point, all Iranians were constantly reminded that their
country shared a bond with the Nazi regime.
Shortly after World War II began in 1939, the mufti of Jerusalem crafted a
strategic alliance with Hitler to exchange Iraqi oil for active Arab and
Islamic participation in the murder of Jews in the Mideast and Eastern
Europe, predicated on support for a Pan-Arab state and Arab rule over
Palestine.
During the war years, Iran became a haven and headquarters for Gestapo
agents and German operatives. It was from Iran that the seeds of the
abortive 1941 pro-Nazi coup in Baghdad were planted.
After Churchill's forces booted the Nazis out of Iraq in June 1941, the
German air crews supporting Nazi bombers escaped across the northern border
back into Iran. Likewise, the mufti of Jerusalem was spirited across the
border to Tehran, where he continued to call for the destruction of the Jews
and the defeat of the British. His venomous rhetoric filled the newspapers
and radio broadcasts of Tehran.
From Tehran and elsewhere, the Mufti was a vocal and vigilant opponent of
allowing Jewish refugees to be transported or ransomed into Palestine.
Instead, he wanted them shipped to the gas chambers of Poland.
In the summer of 1941, with the support of key Iranian military and
government leaders, the mufti advocated implementing in Iran what had failed
months earlier in Iraq. The plan once again was for a total diversion of oil
from the Allies to the Nazis in exchange for the accelerated destruction of
the Jews in Eastern Europe and support for an Arab state.
Through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, Iran already had been supplying
Hitler's forces in occupied Czechoslovakia and Austria. Now the mufti
agitated to cut off the British and the Allies completely and supply Germany
in its push against Russia and the East.
In October, 1941, British, Russians and other Allied forces invaded Iran to
break up the Iran-Nazi alliance. Pro-Nazi generals and ministers were
arrested and the shah's Western-leaning son was installed.
The mufti scampered into the Italian Embassy, where he shaved his beard and
dyed his hair, and was then allowed to exit the country along with the rest
of the Italian delegation.
Once the mufti relocated permanently to Berlin, where he established his own
Reich-supported "bureau," he was given airtime on Radio Berlin. From Berlin
and other fascist capitals in Europe, the mufti continued to agitate for the
destruction of international Jewry, as well as a pan-Arab and pan-Islamic
alliance with the Nazi regime.
He called upon all Muslims to "kill the Jews wherever you see them." In
Tehran's marketplace, it was common to see placards that declared, "In
heaven, Allah is your master. On Earth, it is Adolf Hitler."
When the mufti organized three Islamic Waffen SS divisions to undertake
operations in Bosnia, among the 30,000 killers were some volunteer
contingents from Iran. Iranian Nazis, along with the other Muslim Waffen SS,
operated under the direct supervision of Heinrich Himmler and were
responsible for barbarous actions against Jews and others in Bosnia.
Recruitment for the murderous "Handschar Divisions" was open and public in
Iran.
Iran and its leaders not only were aware of the Holocaust, they played both
sides. The country offered overland escape routes for refugee Jews fleeing
Nazi persecution to Israel -- and later fleeing postwar Iraqi fascist
persecution -- but only in exchange for extortionary passage fees. Thousands
of Jews made their way to Israel via Iran both during the Holocaust and
after the fall of Hitler, when Arab leaders, especially in Iraq, tried to
continue Germany's anti-Jewish program. Iran profited handsomely.
To play all sides of the Holocaust drama -- and now to deny that the
Holocaust even happened -- should be very difficult in a nation named for
Hitler's master race.
--------------------------------
J.
"The Last 2305 Days.·:*¨¨*:·. ?©®T" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> a écrit
dans le message de news:
1156653635.462438.256290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
From the website:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17421.shtml
Were it not for the Iranians
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28 Aug 2006 01:20:19 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
lYjIg.17188$395.8055@edtnps90...
http://www.jnewswire.com/article/993
Iran to Germany: Help us deal with Israel
Ahmadinejad asks Merkel to put on Nazi boots?
By Ryan Jones
July 21, 2006
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad apparently believes that all Germany
needs is a little nudge to revert to its Nazi ways and hatred of the Jews,
and so has asked Berlin to help him deal with Jewish state.
Nazi leader Adolf Hitler is a favorite in the Muslim world (his Mein Kampf
is a perennial best-seller), and has been invoked by Ahmadinejad on
several occasions as he called for the destruction of Israel.
In a letter to Chancellor Angela Merkel this week, Ahmadinejad came
worryingly close to asking the German leader to emulate the Fuhrer.
A German official who has seen the letter spoke to Reuters on condition of
anonymity:
"It's all related to Germany and how we have to find a solution to the
Palestinian problems and Zionism and so on. It's rather weird."
"There are a lot of propaganda phrases about Israel and the Jews inside."
Ahmadinejad has openly stated his desire to see Israel "wiped off the
map," and has warned the West that if it does not eliminate the Israeli
"cancer" by absorbing the nation's six million Jews, the Muslim world will
deal with the problem in its own manner.
--------------------
It has been going on for quite a while, ever since Hitler's fiction about
the Aryan:
-------------------
http://www.bankingonbaghdad.com/archive/IranDenial/BTJ1212205/
Exposing Iran's Nazi Links
Edwin Black
DECEMBER 22, 2005 Washington
Iran's president has shot to the forefront of Holocaust denial in recent
days, but it may seem more like self-denial: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad need only
look to his country's Hitler-era past to discover that Iran and Iranians
were connected to the Holocaust and the Nazi regime, as was the larger
Arab and Islamic world under the leadership of the mufti of Jerusalem.
Iran's links to the Third Reich began during the pre-World War II years
when it welcomed Gestapo agents and other operatives to Tehran, allowing
them to use it as a Middle East base for agitation against the British and
the region's Jews.
Key among these Gestapo men was Fritz Grobba, Berlin's envoy to the Middle
East, and often called "the German Lawrence" because he promised a
Pan-Arab state stretching from Casablanca to Tehran.
Relations between Berlin and Tehran were strong from the moment Hitler
came to power in 1933, when Reza Shah Pahlavi's nation was still known as
Persia.
The shah became a stalwart admirer of Hitler, Nazism and the concept of
the Aryan master race. He also sought the Nazis' help in reducing British
petro-political domination.
So intense was the shah's identification with the Third Reich that in 1935
he renamed his ancient country "Iran," which in Farsi means Aryan and
refers to the Proto-Indo-European lineage that Nazi racial theorists and
Persian ethnologists cherished.
The idea for the name change was suggested by the Iranian ambassador to
Germany, who came under the influence of Hitler's trusted banker Hjalmar
Schacht. From that point, all Iranians were constantly reminded that their
country shared a bond with the Nazi regime.
Shortly after World War II began in 1939, the mufti of Jerusalem crafted a
strategic alliance with Hitler to exchange Iraqi oil for active Arab and
Islamic participation in the murder of Jews in the Mideast and Eastern
Europe, predicated on support for a Pan-Arab state and Arab rule over
Palestine.
During the war years, Iran became a haven and headquarters for Gestapo
agents and German operatives. It was from Iran that the seeds of the
abortive 1941 pro-Nazi coup in Baghdad were planted.
After Churchill's forces booted the Nazis out of Iraq in June 1941, the
German air crews supporting Nazi bombers escaped across the northern
border back into Iran. Likewise, the mufti of Jerusalem was spirited
across the border to Tehran, where he continued to call for the
destruction of the Jews and the defeat of the British. His venomous
rhetoric filled the newspapers and radio broadcasts of Tehran.
From Tehran and elsewhere, the Mufti was a vocal and vigilant opponent of
allowing Jewish refugees to be transported or ransomed into Palestine.
Instead, he wanted them shipped to the gas chambers of Poland.
In the summer of 1941, with the support of key Iranian military and
government leaders, the mufti advocated implementing in Iran what had
failed months earlier in Iraq. The plan once again was for a total
diversion of oil from the Allies to the Nazis in exchange for the
accelerated destruction of the Jews in Eastern Europe and support for an
Arab state.
Through the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, Iran already had been supplying
Hitler's forces in occupied Czechoslovakia and Austria. Now the mufti
agitated to cut off the British and the Allies completely and supply
Germany in its push against Russia and the East.
In October, 1941, British, Russians and other Allied forces invaded Iran
to break up the Iran-Nazi alliance. Pro-Nazi generals and ministers were
arrested and the shah's Western-leaning son was installed.
The mufti scampered into the Italian Embassy, where he shaved his beard
and dyed his hair, and was then allowed to exit the country along with the
rest of the Italian delegation.
Once the mufti relocated permanently to Berlin, where he established his
own Reich-supported "bureau," he was given airtime on Radio Berlin. From
Berlin and other fascist capitals in Europe, the mufti continued to
agitate for the destruction of international Jewry, as well as a pan-Arab
and pan-Islamic alliance with the Nazi regime.
He called upon all Muslims to "kill the Jews wherever you see them." In
Tehran's marketplace, it was common to see placards that declared, "In
heaven, Allah is your master. On Earth, it is Adolf Hitler."
When the mufti organized three Islamic Waffen SS divisions to undertake
operations in Bosnia, among the 30,000 killers were some volunteer
contingents from Iran. Iranian Nazis, along with the other Muslim Waffen
SS, operated under the direct supervision of Heinrich Himmler and were
responsible for barbarous actions against Jews and others in Bosnia.
Recruitment for the murderous "Handschar Divisions" was open and public in
Iran.
Iran and its leaders not only were aware of the Holocaust, they played
both sides. The country offered overland escape routes for refugee Jews
fleeing Nazi persecution to Israel -- and later fleeing postwar Iraqi
fascist persecution -- but only in exchange for extortionary passage fees.
Thousands of Jews made their way to Israel via Iran both during the
Holocaust and after the fall of Hitler, when Arab leaders, especially in
Iraq, tried to continue Germany's anti-Jewish program. Iran profited
handsomely.
To play all sides of the Holocaust drama -- and now to deny that the
Holocaust even happened -- should be very difficult in a nation named for
Hitler's master race.
--------------------------------
J.
"The Last 2305 Days.·:*¨¨*:·. ?©®T" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> a
écrit dans le message de news:
1156653635.462438.256290@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
From the website:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17421.shtml
Were it not for the Iranians
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27 Aug 2006 11:52:13 AM |
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nice post but how do you think that "peaceful transition" can ever take
place, in view of the rule of terror that reigns in Iran and where any
opposition is met with torture and bullets?
The Last 2305 Days.=C2=B7:*=C2=A8=C2=A8*:=C2=B7. =E2=99=A5=C2=A9=C2=AE=E2=
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From the website:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17421.shtml
Were it not for the Iranians
Aug 25, 2006
Ali Mostofi - Persian Journal
One of the most typical examples of the sort of
commentary that is pro Islamist is in this article
from Asia Times Iran's 'crisis' of overconfidence. It states:
"And Iran is wasting no time flexing
its power, both hard and soft. Iranian armed forces
conspicuously kicked off the first stage of massive
war games this week along border areas. Dubbed 'Blow
of Zulqifar' after the sword of the Imam Ali, the
exercises appear to have been intended to send a
message to hawks in the US and Israel that Iran, with
its rugged terrain, embedded nuclear facilities and
robust military, is another class of
foe."
forgot
The author of this article, we assume is very
intelligent, but somehow does not care to look at what
secular Iranians think. He totally disregards the 5000
years of Iranian spirit that existed before Islam.
Somehow 1400 years of Islamic attitude has a higher
moral ground than anything else. Somehow he seems to
forget Zend-Avesta that is the source of Cyrus's
inspiration to write Declaration of Human Rights.
ignoramibus
Good Iranians do not waste the people money on
promoting war in the name of dogma. But ultimately the
fault is the Iranian Opposition. They have not managed
to enforce a common discipline to show the world that
Old Iranian philosophy is more powerful and more
embracing to the world. The world currently follows
the slogan of "Western Democracy" and "Western
Freedom". We are told that the world is split between
the "Western Ideals" and the "Eastern Ideals". The
Iranian Opposition has not done enough to educate the
world media.
thin air
But wait a minute, the "Western Ideals" didn't just
appear out of thin air? Now I am going to jump speed
into another dimension, so stay with me. If it were
not for the successful proselytizing efforts of the
Christians to convert the high priest of Iran in the
Sassanian times, we would not all be going down this
path together. There are then some of us in Iran who
suffered deeply from what Salman Farsi did. Rouzbe
managed to convince an old Arab called Halabi Qureshi;
that he was descended from Abraham second wife's son;
that he should use Iranian war tactics to defeat
Medina; and turn day into night (on the moment of
Eclipse) and earn the title of Mohammed from the
people.
christians
Jump with me again. Where did the Christians come
from? They only got their stamp of approval after
three Iranian Astrologers (called Magi, which is
derived from the Persian word meaning brain)
calculated an important delineation in the Planets.
Again we see how the Iranian mind set forth a certain
set of chain reactions that were to change the history
of the world. If it were not for the Iranians,
Christians would not exist.
jews
Now let's jump again, this time to the 6th Century BC,
when the Jews were freed only because of the desire of
the Iranian Emperor Cyrus the Great to use the
Humanistic principles of the Zend-Avesta. If were not
for the fact that such an event took place, the people
of Israel would not exist, and Judaism would have been
"wipe-out" a long time ago.
shiites
Now let's get in the time machine, and jump again
forward to the 11th Century. Did you know that
Iranians were not Moslem at that time. They were
Bhuddist and Nestorian Christians under the Monguls
Emperors that allowed Iranian literature to blossom
again. People were allowed to read other books than
the Koran. The greatest poets of Iran (such as Hafez
and Ferdowsi) were born and the greatest poetry of
Iran began. But at the same time a man called Al-Hilli
came along and managed to promote stern principles,
that converted the Mogul ruler and Iranians became
Shiites, in the belief that religious hierarchy is
hereditary. So Iran now is ruled a dynasty and all the
dignitaries are exclusive (called Seyyeds) as decreed
by Al-Hilli who created the first Seyeed school in
Shiraz.
existence
So the situation that Iran is in at present, is a
culmination of all these deeds. We Iranians are the
result of the Good Deeds we did when we released the
Jews, recognized Jesus Christ, and Mohammed. But more
important is the fact that if we Iranians had not
recognized these people, the world would not have
had these people. But the irony is that in recognizing
all these people, we nearly ended up losing our own
identity; so much that most of the intelligent
historian of the world do not mention any of the
above. And so it must come to this point in the
history of mankind, that the world needs to give back
to Iran it true identity by referring to it regularly.
powerful argument
It is the duty of the Iranian Opposition to safeguard
the identity of Iran. We Iranians in Opposition
must remind the world media regularly what we
Iranian contributed to the world. The Jews, the
Christians, and especially the Moslem must recognize
the true history. It is about time to speak the truth
and give Iran the respect it deserves. Iranians are
not akin to the warmongerings that this little dark
man (as Nostradamus calls him) creates. We Iranians do
not want to force other countries to follow an alien
doctrine that is best left in Najaf.
halt
The children of Iran know that they can if they wished
remove this kind by just talking about a national
strike. Talk of the country coming to a halt will make
the folks in Qom shiver. The secular silent majority
of Iran have the power of apathy towards the Islamist
Fascists in power. The Fascists have no powerful
argument against the silent majority's people dictum
of non violent general strike. And the civilized
Iranian people will change Iran non violently by
themselves.
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27 Aug 2006 12:48:19 PM |
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"Sirknight67" <zspitama@excite.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
1156697532.985721.255030@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
nice post but how do you think that "peaceful transition" can ever take
place, in view of the rule of terror that reigns in Iran and where any
opposition is met with torture and bullets?
When you consider that:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/Page/IndexParMult&cid=1145961369337
Ahmadinejad would "sacrifice half of Iran" to wipe out Israel."
You know that he won't care much if he feels he needs to get rid of some
opposition.
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
J.
The Last 2305 Days.·:*¨¨*:·. ?©®T wrote:
From the website:
http://www.iranian.ws/iran_news/publish/article_17421.shtml
Were it not for the Iranians
Aug 25, 2006
Ali Mostofi - Persian Journal
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27 Aug 2006 03:02:00 PM |
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:48:19 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
Actually, the Arabs and the Hebrews are both ancestral brothers.
Perhaps you should rephrase what you said with "Religious hate".
Or better, "Religious fundamentalism". Replace Hitler with Bush.
"Religious fundamentalism is his obsession, much like Bush." ;-)
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28 Aug 2006 01:41:30 PM |
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"Qadosh Stephanos" <Qadosh.Stephanos@no-email.org> a écrit dans le message
de news: r8u3f2dleum9i06t8bmbbg16i3gc1ridu0@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:48:19 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
Actually, the Arabs and the Hebrews are both ancestral brothers.
Perhaps you should rephrase what you said with "Religious hate".
Or better, "Religious fundamentalism". Replace Hitler with Bush.
"Religious fundamentalism is his obsession, much like Bush." ;-)
No, I mean racial hatred. That they are both semites doesn't change the
anti-semitism of some Muslims, Arabs or not.
Read my previous message in this very thread, about, amongst other things,
how Mein Kampf is a best seller amongst them.
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/7c5e27bb2793c4e5
It is hate for Jews.
And Bush, BTW, is far from being a fanatic compared to Ahmadinejad. Bush
doesn't hate any religious group, doesn't support any terrorist group, on
the other hand, he may hate these fanatics and those who support them.
The only thing he has against him is that he doesn't want the government to
fund cloning, doesn't want to see mariage be a recognized institution
between gays, and he is against abortion. Big deal. Is there anything else?
Not sure, you tell me, and I don't mean some tale from terrorist supporters
site. I mean concrete facts.
Whatever Bush stands for, it doesn't even start to compare with what the
shariah law imposes and to what is considered acceptable to many "moderate"
muslims. Compared to what the leaders of some countries (especially those
that do not recognize Israel) do with these shariah legislation, Bush is a
saint. No comparision. There is a whole universe of difference between the
fanaticism of Ahmadinejad in particular, and even the worst, most rampant to
the right, philosophy of Bush.
You are the one who should take out your head from your terrorism propaganda
hole.
J.
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:uNGIg.17780$365.12764@edtnps89...
"Qadosh Stephanos" <Qadosh.Stephanos@no-email.org> a écrit dans le message
de news: r8u3f2dleum9i06t8bmbbg16i3gc1ridu0@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:48:19 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
Actually, the Arabs and the Hebrews are both ancestral brothers.
Perhaps you should rephrase what you said with "Religious hate".
Or better, "Religious fundamentalism". Replace Hitler with Bush.
"Religious fundamentalism is his obsession, much like Bush." ;-)
No, I mean racial hatred. That they are both semites doesn't change the
anti-semitism of some Muslims, Arabs or not.
Read my previous message in this very thread, about, amongst other things,
how Mein Kampf is a best seller amongst them.
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/7c5e27bb2793c4e5
It is hate for Jews.
And Bush, BTW, is far from being a fanatic compared to Ahmadinejad. Bush
doesn't hate any religious group, doesn't support any terrorist group, on
the other hand, he may hate these fanatics and those who support them.
The only thing he has against him is that he doesn't want the government
to fund cloning, doesn't want to see mariage be a recognized institution
between gays, and he is against abortion. Big deal. Is there anything
else?
I don't like how he comes across so 'inarticulate'.
Not sure, you tell me, and I don't mean some tale from terrorist
supporters site. I mean concrete facts.
Whatever Bush stands for, it doesn't even start to compare with what the
shariah law imposes and to what is considered acceptable to many
"moderate" muslims. Compared to what the leaders of some countries
(especially those that do not recognize Israel) do with these shariah
legislation, Bush is a saint. No comparision. There is a whole universe of
difference between the fanaticism of Ahmadinejad in particular, and even
the worst, most rampant to the right, philosophy of Bush.
You are the one who should take out your head from your terrorism
propaganda hole.
J.
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30 Aug 2006 10:25:06 AM |
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"bye" <pleiades@pleiades.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
tqNIg.491959$IK3.351179@pd7tw1no...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:uNGIg.17780$365.12764@edtnps89...
"Qadosh Stephanos" <Qadosh.Stephanos@no-email.org> a écrit dans le
message de news: r8u3f2dleum9i06t8bmbbg16i3gc1ridu0@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:48:19 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
Actually, the Arabs and the Hebrews are both ancestral brothers.
Perhaps you should rephrase what you said with "Religious hate".
Or better, "Religious fundamentalism". Replace Hitler with Bush.
"Religious fundamentalism is his obsession, much like Bush." ;-)
No, I mean racial hatred. That they are both semites doesn't change the
anti-semitism of some Muslims, Arabs or not.
Read my previous message in this very thread, about, amongst other
things, how Mein Kampf is a best seller amongst them.
http://groups.google.ca/group/alt.bible.prophecy/msg/7c5e27bb2793c4e5
It is hate for Jews.
And Bush, BTW, is far from being a fanatic compared to Ahmadinejad. Bush
doesn't hate any religious group, doesn't support any terrorist group, on
the other hand, he may hate these fanatics and those who support them.
The only thing he has against him is that he doesn't want the government
to fund cloning, doesn't want to see mariage be a recognized institution
between gays, and he is against abortion. Big deal. Is there anything
else?
I don't like how he comes across so 'inarticulate'.
Media projection. They give highlights to people who say that, and to people
who say he is too sure of himself and bully.
The truth lies in between, probably in the realm of prudence.
J.
Not sure, you tell me, and I don't mean some tale from terrorist
supporters site. I mean concrete facts.
Whatever Bush stands for, it doesn't even start to compare with what the
shariah law imposes and to what is considered acceptable to many
"moderate" muslims. Compared to what the leaders of some countries
(especially those that do not recognize Israel) do with these shariah
legislation, Bush is a saint. No comparision. There is a whole universe
of difference between the fanaticism of Ahmadinejad in particular, and
even the worst, most rampant to the right, philosophy of Bush.
You are the one who should take out your head from your terrorism
propaganda hole.
J.
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| User: "Qadosh Stephanos" |
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30 Aug 2006 07:22:33 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:41:30 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"Qadosh Stephanos" <Qadosh.Stephanos@no-email.org> a écrit dans le message
de news: r8u3f2dleum9i06t8bmbbg16i3gc1ridu0@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:48:19 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
Actually, the Arabs and the Hebrews are both ancestral brothers.
Perhaps you should rephrase what you said with "Religious hate".
Or better, "Religious fundamentalism". Replace Hitler with Bush.
"Religious fundamentalism is his obsession, much like Bush." ;-)
No, I mean racial hatred. That they are both semites doesn't change the
anti-semitism of some Muslims, Arabs or not.
I guess you forgot about those 1900+ years of Christian anti-semitism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostra_Aetate
Read my previous message in this very thread, about, amongst other things,
how Mein Kampf is a best seller amongst them.
Is it sold in the fiction or the non-fiction section? ;-)
What is the best selling publication in North America?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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30 Aug 2006 09:59:17 AM |
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Ah, the legendary world anti-semitism. Well, the past is no excuse for the
present. Hitler lost the war and his racist obsessions have been exposed.
The question is why is Islam still racist 50 years later, and still spread
Nazi racial hatred and Nazi myths, not why Christianism is not racist
anymore.
Stop dumping your guilt.
J.
"Qadosh Stephanos" <Qadosh.Stephanos@no-email.org> a écrit dans le message
de news: kqvaf2t7ahor1n30krroad5muai5v49cf5@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:41:30 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
"Qadosh Stephanos" <Qadosh.Stephanos@no-email.org> a écrit dans le message
de news: r8u3f2dleum9i06t8bmbbg16i3gc1ridu0@4ax.com...
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:48:19 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Racial hate is his obsession, much like Hitler.
Actually, the Arabs and the Hebrews are both ancestral brothers.
Perhaps you should rephrase what you said with "Religious hate".
Or better, "Religious fundamentalism". Replace Hitler with Bush.
"Religious fundamentalism is his obsession, much like Bush." ;-)
No, I mean racial hatred. That they are both semites doesn't change the
anti-semitism of some Muslims, Arabs or not.
I guess you forgot about those 1900+ years of Christian anti-semitism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Semitism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nostra_Aetate
Read my previous message in this very thread, about, amongst other things,
how Mein Kampf is a best seller amongst them.
Is it sold in the fiction or the non-fiction section? ;-)
What is the best selling publication in North America?
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31 Aug 2006 07:59:53 PM |
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:59:17 GMT, "Jean Guernon"
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Ah, the legendary world anti-semitism. Well, the past is no excuse for the
present. Hitler lost the war and his racist obsessions have been exposed.
The question is why is Islam still racist 50 years later, and still spread
Nazi racial hatred and Nazi myths, not why Christianism is not racist
anymore.
Stop dumping your guilt.
J.
See what happens when you top post. Everything below gets deleted.
Bandages are for cuts and sores. Propaganda is meant to hide evil.
Those bandages of propaganda do not heal that sickness of racism.
You only see what you want to see, which is typical of your kind.
Those same people cut down all the trees and made themselves rich.
Then they said to those others 200+ years later, you can't do that.
Oilyastics chapter 1:1-4 (English version)
There was this certain people in that day which consumed enormous
amounts of oil to sustain their luxurious way of life and their
pretentious symbolism of their own self-illusion of freedom. It was in
those days that the people of the Oil God saw that their Oil was
dwindling rapidly. Then the leaders of that Kingdom devised an evil
plan to create an imaginary evil enemy. The leaders then sought to
finance and recruit some foreign people to fulfill their own will.
Well, the rest is history. ;-)
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| User: "=?utf-8?Q?the_Nuu=C2=B0nuu=C2=B0?=" |
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27 Aug 2006 04:40:36 PM |
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"Sirknight67" <zspitama@excite.com> wrote in message
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nice post but how do you think that "peaceful transition" can ever take
place, in view of the rule of terror that reigns in Iran and where any
opposition is met with torture and bullets?
(....oh christmas, mary & joseph, here we go again folks!)
How do you know that? Do you currently live in or have
you ever lived in Iran? Or are you just another shill for AIPAC ?
(get lost jooo-boy!) PLONK!
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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28 Aug 2006 01:42:49 PM |
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I know that because it is the truth.
Do you live there? Do you kiss the ***** of the fanatics?
J.
"the Nuu°nuu°" <wheezer50gf@mailgoogle.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
54409$44f2112b$d1cc4508$15676@snip.allthenewsgroups.com...
"Sirknight67" <zspitama@excite.com> wrote in message
news:1156697532.985721.255030@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
nice post but how do you think that "peaceful transition" can ever take
place, in view of the rule of terror that reigns in Iran and where any
opposition is met with torture and bullets?
(....oh christmas, mary & joseph, here we go again folks!)
How do you know that? Do you currently live in or have
you ever lived in Iran? Or are you just another shill for AIPAC ?
(get lost jooo-boy!) PLONK!
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