I have read many reports saying that the number of mercenaries and
green card seekers serving in the US army is more than 40 thousand.
But I have never heard of 'half' a mercenary killed! Even the Iraqi
resistance does not have 40 thousand active members. I have been
puzzled about the fate of these mercenaries. Do they have some kind of
a resistance against death or their bodies vaporize when they die?
The truth however is very shameful. The Jewnited States disposes the
dead bodies of mercenaries in Iraqi rivers and deserts. They found it
a good strategy to minimize the war casualties. Not only mercenaries
get their dead bodies thrown in rivers, but also first class US
citizens get the same 'reward' if their dead bodies are badly
disfigured and beyond recognition. I doubt though this would have
happened if the disfigured soldier has been a Jew! If not for any
other reason, at least to avoid the famous label 'anti-semite'!
Report: Further Evidence Of Mass Graves Of US Soldiers In Iraq
Authors Name Withheld By Request
Published by Jihad Unspun. All Rights Are Reserved.
November 29, 2004
The original article in pdf format
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Video footage to confirm US crime
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Since August 2004, JUS has been receiving reports of the discovery of
mass graves containing the bodies of US soldiers that have been
uncovered inside Iraq. Since that time, we have several different
reports with information from a variety of our sources on this
discovery. Now, for the first time, a comprehensive report has been
released. Its author must remain anonymous for obvious reasons but
this is the most comprehensive accounting of eyewitness testimonies
yet, including statements from some members of the US military.
Published in Arabic, this report has been translated by JUS and
describes in detail how the bodies of US soldiers are being disposed
of inside the country, validating the grim discovery of the lengths
the US will go to prevent the population from knowing the truth about
this conflict.
This is a crime of great magnititude. We know from reports that
surface each and every day from inside Iraq that the casualty numbers
being reported by the US military have no correlation to those that
are actually occurring. Yes, this is wartime and that can be expected
to some degree but to dump bodies into rivers and remote desert
locations where they pollute the environment shows that not only is
there no respect for these soldiers but no respect for the country of
Iraq either.
During the initial occupation of Afghanistan, JUS published two
eyewitness reports on the discovery of the bodies of American soldiers
in freezers stores in two separate medical facilities. Do not think
that the dumping of bodies is a new phenomena – it is not. While
we were unable to garner enough public interest due to the lack of
visual evidence, the footage that accompanies this report shows
clearly that these bodies, with well maintained teeth, do exist.
Further, the testimony of US soldiers contained in this report with
respect to the casualty numbers being covered over is clear evidence
that can not be ignored. It is our hope that this shocking report will
expose the truth of the "war on terror".
The location of the mass graves has been well documented. Both the
fishermen and the Bedouins are prepared to turn the bodies over to a
humanitarian organization. We encourage Red Crescent, Human Rights
Watch, Amnesty International or the Red Cross to contact us and we
will act as intermediaries to facilitate the return of these bodies.
JUS Editors
What America Does With Its Dead Soldiers In Iraq
This comprehensive report documents incidents and confessions on how
American occupying forces disposes of many of its dead soldiers, that
is, by dumping them from aircraft into rivers and desolate desert
locations in the hope that the corps will be eaten by wild animals or
will be decomposed in rivers and canals. This is a crime against
humanity and will undoubtedly be a sore spot in the history of
America, a country that prides itself as the most civilized society in
modern history. If the Americans back home and the rest of the world
come to know the details of this crime, the consequences will be of
great proportions.
American officers were shocked when bodies (of dead soldiers) that
were supposed to have been "taken care of" were returned to them by
Iraqi farmers and fishermen. It is obvious that Allah has decided to
expose this crime. Modest and down to earth Iraqis, who found the
American corpses, collected them from rivers and desert locations and
buried them in mass in graves. The Iraqis have honored dead Americans,
more than the American army has honored its own members.
Iraqis have buried dead Americans in various areas such as Diali river
shore, Tharthar area, near Sammara, and Hiran valleys in Ratibah area,
depending on where the bodies were uncovered. The commanders
responsible for making the decision to get rid of the bodies in such a
savage, and inhumane way, may have thought that such crime will go
unnoticed, especially in light of fast moving and ever-changing daily
events in Iraq. But Allah was watching and, He knew their malicious
intent, and, He decided to expose their crime.
Those who collected the corps from rivers and valleys and buried them
in their original black plastic bags did so in the name of mercy and
humanity. They also know that they gathered evidence of a horrific
crime. Such a body of evidence will remain to point a finger at the
savage nature of the leadership of the American occupying force in
Iraq for generations to come.
I decided to go to Diali area, 60 kilometers east of Baghdad, to get a
first hand look at what really did happen. When I got there, the most
senior fisherman, F.S. (only initials of his name for fear of reprisal
from Americans), insisted that I do not take photographs of them
(fishermen) and I do not refer to them by their full names for fear of
severe punishment at the hands of American soldiers. The reason for
their fear was not groundless. It was based on their (the fishermen)
own experience with American occupying force back in August. Back
then, some fishermen caught black plastic bags in their nets. The bags
contained three bodies of dead Americans.
The fishermen notified the American authority in the area and handed
the plastic bags with their content over to Americans. Around that
time, fishermen learned that Americans have also received additional
bodies from fellow fishermen in other remote areas near the banks of
the Digla River. The bodies were badly burned, disfigured, and were
mostly beyond recognition, and there were bodies of females among
them. The fishermen were astonished when the Americans told them that
the bodies were of American soldiers who committed suicide by placing
themselves in black plastic bags before throwing themselves into the
river.
Fishermen then realized that Americans are hiding something that they
do not want anyone to know about.
Some fishermen, out of naivety, thought that Americans would give them
a reward for handing over the bodies of their (Americans) comrades but
they were surprised to see that Americans have (in some cases) accused
them of killing those American soldiers. Only then, fishermen decided
not to hand over any bodies they catch in their nets but rather burry
them in mass graves, especially after noticing an increased number of
plastic bags being dumped in the river by American helicopters, which
they did during the pre-dawn hours.
The fishermen were concerned about river pollution as a result of
decomposition of dead bodies. Diali River is a small river originates
in Iran and pours into Digla River. Old fashion fishing areas are
remote and away from any major inhabited area. These remote areas are
only known to fishermen and farmers and the fishermen in those
isolated areas have a simple and uncorrupted life style away from
modern civilization.
The fishermen could not believe those Americans, who claimed to have
come to free Iraqis from a tyrant ruler would throw away the bodies of
their comrades in that remote river. They told me that the incidents
started in early August. Dawn is the best fishing time, according to
fishermen, so they gather at dawn, every day, to start fishing. In
early August, fishermen noticed a number of helicopters coming and
dumping large bags into the river during these dark hours. Apparently,
pilots have not thought of anyone living in those remote areas, let
alone, watching them dumping those large bags in the middle of the
darkness. What ultimately resulted was that the fishermen started to
catch these bags instead of fish in their net. When they opened the
bags at the river shore, they saw completely burned and disfigured
bodies of dead males and females. All bodies were naked and had signs
suggesting they were non-Iraqis- they were foreigners with different
complexions and teeth.
As peaceful and simple people, fishermen knew that dead bodies must be
treated with respect and must be buried in land instead of being
thrown in rivers. Therefore, they dug large mass graves in a number of
locations on the river bank and buried their catch in them. When I
suggested to visit and dig up one of those graves to see for myself
what is there, they almost killed me for such a stupid suggestion.
They informed me that I should know about the sacred nature of dead
bodies and I should know about Arab and Islamic traditions that
prohibit looking at the private parts of females. They insisted that
they have more than 65 dead bodies and they will reveal all details
about the mass grave locations only to neutral organization committed
to send the remains to their loved ones back home.
Wolves Led Bedouins To Other Remote Desert Dumping Locations
A man we will call AY is from Tikrit, and lives in Sammara. He told me
that his brother works with a civil defense unit with the American
occupying force. His brother and others in that unit have the duties
of evacuating dead and wounded American soldiers left after resistance
operations. His bother told him that the number of casualties
disclosed by Americans is always far less than the real number. The
last incident he described was the shooting down of an American copter
in Fallujah at the beginning of Ramadan. The American central command
in Iraq reported 13 being killed in that operation however, his
brother and his co-workers removed more than 30 dead American bodies
that were badly burned and their faces lost all recognizable signs and
the bodies completely charred.
AY informed me that mobile Bedouin (nomads) living in the isolated
areas of Tharthar in the desert of Sammar and Hiran desert valley
discovered many American bodies in their signature black plastic bags
by accident. They noticed a sudden increase in the number of wolves
roaming those areas. They soon discovered remains of dead bodies that
caused a large number of wolves to establish residency in those areas.
Nomads in those areas collected the remains and buried them in mass
graves out of respect for the dead and also to rid the areas of
unwanted large population of wolves. Did American commanders want
wolves to eat the bodies of their dead comrades in order to destroy
the evidence of their savage crime?
People living in those remote areas are still asking why would
Americans treat their soldiers like this? Why do they dump their dead
in rivers and desert locations instead of sending them back to their
relatives for proper burial? Is this the kind of civilization they
want to introduce into Iraq? Is this the kind of values their
candidates running for office talk about? These questions have
attacked me like a wild beast. I was determined to find answers.
On The Road To Find Out
I went to Baghdad looking for answers. American soldiers in Baghdad
streets are overloaded with arms, they take cover in their armored
vehicles and tanks, and their shaky hands are on the triggers ready to
fire at any innocent soul under the name of protecting themselves from
resistance operations. They do not allow us to approach them or talk
to them. They live in constant state of fear. There, behind the
Palestine Hotel, which is surrounded by barbed wire and sophisticated
security systems, there were two off duty, armored vehicles. Exhausted
American soldiers inside, were sound asleep. As I attempted to take a
photograph of the driver of one of the vehicles as he was resting next
to his open door with his rifle besides him, he sensed my presence and
immediately grabbed his rifle and was about to shoot me. I put my arms
with the camera up in the air in a clear sign of surrender until his
commanding officer came to my rescue. The officer took away the film
from my camera, cursed me, and let me go. I asked the officer the
nagging questions, but instead of giving me an answer, he scolded me,
and shoved me out the hotel lobby all together.
A few days later I got the chance to carry a conversation with an
American soldier on Saadoun Street. I started my conversation with a
woman we will call Bird, a female soldier from Texas. She told me that
her job as well as the job of all soldiers in her military police
battalion all over Iraq is to oversee the conduct and discipline of
American soldiers during their duties on the streets of Baghdad. I
asked her about those soldiers who are said to desert their units and
slip through the borders. She said (with reluctance) that those
soldiers do not belong to the American army but rather are mercenaries
who were recruited from different parts of the world after they
answered a number of want ads placed by the U.S. government before the
beginning of the war. They were promised high pay and other incentives
and in some cases they were also promised US citizenship when the war
is over and upon their return to the States. Unfortunately, when Bush
announced the end to combat operations, those soldiers had the right
to end their services and leave without being accused of running away
from the battle field, Bird said. The incidents of desertion increased
as the resistance operations against Americans increased. Some of them
were caught, but they cited the end of combat operations as the reason
for their departure, they further said that they did not run away from
the battle field because there were none, according to Bush. "We put
some in jails and some were sent to headquarter in Qatar for further
action" she said. Bird said that the military police units concentrate
their work on Baghdad streets because soldiers there work under
enormous pressure. Many of them are not convinced of the necessity of
this war.
I then gathered my courage to ask Bird the nagging question. What
about those bodies dumped from helicopters into remote and uninhabited
areas of Iraq? And why are those bodies not returned to America? Bird
replied with an unmistakable degree of hesitation and reluctance. She
said that such stories have made their way to military camps and
caused a good deal of disappointment and low morale among soldiers
"but let me assure you, the stories are nothing but rumors; that's
what our Commanding officers tell us."
As Bird was finishing her sentence, a loud scream came from another
female soldier by the name of Martha: "You are a liar, you know that
those soldiers who were burned beyond recognition are being disposed
of in the jungles of Iraq" said Martha. "Our commanders are afraid of
a public outcry when families get bodies of their loved ones but they
could not say a goodbye because the bodies are not recognizable"
added Martha.
Bird quickly interrupted and said that Martha was emotionally
disturbed because she lost a dear friend of hers. Martha's friend was
killed in a resistance operation and his body was completely charred.
The body was not returned to his family in the States, and to this
date, no one knows what happened to the body of Martha's friend.
Bird went on to say that Martha is only 20 years old and "all of us
here feel sorry for her. "We (American soldiers) are confused,
especially female soldiers. We love life, and as fighters, we belong
to the most powerful army in the world, we obey and carry out orders
in the most disciplined manner, and we can defeat any military power
in this world. But out here in Iraq, we do not know what exactly we
are supposed to do. We have completed the liberation of Iraq and we
have rid the world from the cruelty of Saddam, and to that end, we
should be rewarded for what we have accomplished and go home to enjoy
life again. Here we are among civilians, we fight ghosts that we do
not see, we do not know who they are, and they do not make themselves
known, and we kill many innocent people including children. We are
constantly trying to stay alive, and that is basically what we do
here."
Martha jumped in hysterically and said
"We do not know what Bush and Rumsfeld want us to do here in Iraq. We
do nothing but lose friends every single day. Our friends who fought
and were burned and disfigured beyond recognition in the line of duty
are rewarded by having their dead bodies dumped in rivers at night"
Martha continued her conversation with me by saying, "Do you know what
I wish most will happen to me? I wish I can go back to my country as
soon as possible to live a normal life with my family. But I also wish
that in case I get killed, I would be killed by bullets and not by
burning to death. This way, my mother can get my dead body, recognize
me, and say good bye to me for the last time. All of us here
desperately want to go home alive and if that's not possible, at least
as recognizable bodies instead of facing the horrible fate of getting
dumped in some river in the middle of night".
More US Soldiers Speak
I then went to Baghdad University. At the entrance to Baghdad
University there is an American tank positioned there for security.
One of the tank crew is a female soldier who developed a friendship
with the sister of my driver. I let my driver's sister ask her friend,
the American soldier, this question on my behalf: How could America,
the land of civilization and human rights allow for disposing of dead
bodies of their comrades in rivers and remote desert locations? The
American soldier replied in an arrogant and angry manner.
"Those are not our comrades. They are mercenaries who were hired to
perform a job. They joined in under a specific contract with a special
incentive to become American citizens. When the war is over, they
waved the right of their families, who are living illegally in the
States, to their bodies if they are killed in action. But in this
case, their families will be eligible for citizenship status, the
thing that their sons and daughters have died for"
The American soldier went on to tell my driver's sister that in her
opinion those soldiers do not deserve to be sent back to the states,
after all, they were mercenaries, they are not fighting for a cause,
they are basically second class citizens who have no rights at all and
they deserve to have their bodies dumped in rivers and deserts. She
sees them as a weak point in the American army that caused significant
degrading of American armies' morale in Iraq.
I then went to the American Communication and media center, located in
the Conventions Palace, in Baghdad. I met a communication officer
there and I kept pressing the question. The officer insisted on not
revealing his name, answered my question as follows: "The decision to
get rid of the disfigured bodies of dead American and mercenary
soldiers in this manner is an internal decision made by the Allied
forces general Command Center in Qatar, with the backing of the entire
American administration. The decision makers did not want Bush's
popularity to take a nose dive in this crucial time of election
campaign. Should the American public find out the casualties of this
war, this could undoubtedly affect Bush's chances for reelection."
The American officer went on to say that dumping bodies in rivers and
desert locations to get rid of them is a horrific crime. He further
said that "American commanders are trying to convince the rest of us
that sending disfigured bodies to their families is useless for burial
is useless if they (the families) can not recognize their loved ones."
The communication officer finally and firmly said, much to my
amazement:
"If they think they can hide facts by dumping dead bodies into rivers
and deserts, the daily transfer of more than 50 wounded soldiers
expose their lies. We send more than 50 wounded every day to various
hospitals in Germany and U.S. Many of those who were wounded have lost
limps and have become living corpses"
"It is the first time since the Vietnam war that the American army has
suffered such a huge number of wounded soldiers on a daily basis"
added the officer. "We are frustrated, especially that the war is
supposed to have ended after removing Saddam. There is no
justification for this continued hostility that results in daily loss
of lives to the point that forces our commanders to resort to a savage
and most inhumane way to destroy dead bodies in order to hide the real
cost of this war. The American medical services branch of the U.S.
Army, housed in the Allied Forces command center in Baghdad has become
the most secretive center in order to prevent the real numbers of dead
and wounded Americans from reaching the rest of the soldiers and
officers in Iraq".
Please direct any inquiries about this report to Bruce Kennedy,
Editor-in-Chief, Jihad Unspun
bkennedy@jihadunspun.com
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"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I have read many reports saying that the number of mercenaries and
green card seekers serving in the US army is more than 40 thousand.
Daylight....those bodies don't look like "remains"...they look like mummies.
Clue: Use credible sources as that will increase your credibility.
But jihadunspuntheonion.com ?
LoL
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29 Nov 2004 03:47:53 PM |
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"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I have read many reports saying that the number of mercenaries and
green card seekers serving in the US army is more than 40 thousand.
Daylight....those bodies don't look like "remains"...they look like
mummies.
Looks like we got us some old-fashioned psychological warfare
going on here... for whatever good it's doing the jihadists.
Clue: Use credible sources as that will increase your credibility.
But jihadunspuntheonion.com ?
LoL
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30 Nov 2004 01:44:06 AM |
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"Don W. McCollough" <letters@softhome.net> wrote in message news:<t6Mqd.3805$Hk6.1335@trnddc05>...
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com...
I have read many reports saying that the number of mercenaries and
green card seekers serving in the US army is more than 40 thousand.
Daylight....those bodies don't look like "remains"...they look like mummies.
Clue: Use credible sources as that will increase your credibility.
But jihadunspuntheonion.com ?
LoL
You know what. Why don't you join the army and go to Iraq? Don't
forget to take a black plastic bag with you. And write on that plastic
bag, I am the fukun ***** who didn't the dipshit daylight. In that
way we will be able to identify you and I promise you to publish your
plastic bag on the net to add another evidence to this crime.
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29 Nov 2004 05:49:51 PM |
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(Daylight) wrote in message news:<70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com>...
"daylight" posts from the United Arab Emirates, home to such
reliable news sources as Al Jazeera. ;-)
wd
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29 Nov 2004 10:19:15 PM |
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(William Davenant) wrote in message news:<719d5b00.0411291549.459c1277@posting.google.com>...
daylight80231@yahoo.com (Daylight) wrote in message news:<70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com>...
"daylight" posts from the United Arab Emirates, home to such
reliable news sources as Al Jazeera. ;-)
....I like to call it Al Jazero ;)
wd
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30 Nov 2004 06:45:40 AM |
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sirwd@hotmail.com (William Davenant)
wrote:
(Daylight) wrote in message
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"daylight" posts from the United Arab >Emirates, home to such
reliable news sources as Al Jazeera. ;-)
I always knew this clown was a Terrorist.
Tony
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01 Dec 2004 01:49:54 AM |
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(TonyZ2001) wrote in message news:<20041130074540.21640.00001218@mb-m12.aol.com>...
sirwd@hotmail.com (William Davenant)
wrote:
(Daylight) wrote in message
news:<70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com>...
"daylight" posts from the United Arab >Emirates, home to such
reliable news sources as Al Jazeera. ;-)
I always knew this clown was a Terrorist.
You piece of ***** I am proud to be a terrorist based on the
American/Jewish definition?!
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Somebody must have stepped on his toes
http://img30.exs.cx/img30/5844/1101605556.jpg
This explains it
http://img64.exs.cx/img64/6351/JewUSA.gif
For you and your family
http://www.JewWatch.com
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01 Dec 2004 04:16:10 AM |
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sirwd@hotmail.com (William Davenant)
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(Daylight) wrote in message
news:<70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com>...
"daylight" posts from the United Arab >Emirates, home to such
reliable news sources as Al Jazeera. ;-)
I always knew this clown was a Terrorist.
Tony
So now it's where one posts from that decides whether or not one is a
terrorist? If that's the case then all the yanks who post here are
dozy fuckers and/or monkeys. But we know that it's not true don't we
pantyboy? It's just you, the ***** drinker macdonald and the filthy
Canadian furball that are the dozy fuckers.
WH
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30 Nov 2004 01:10:45 AM |
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(Daylight) wrote in message news:<70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com>...
Looks like all of are in unbelievable state. I don't see any abnormal
thing in this report. This is expected form the Jewnited States. But
why are you attacking me? I am only a poster. A mailman. If you have
read the report, you should have seen an email at the bottom of the
report. Why don't you send your complaints or inquiries to that email.
Here it is again if you have missed it:
Please direct any inquiries about this report to Bruce Kennedy,
Editor-in-Chief, Jihad Unspun
bkennedy@jihadunspun.com
Another thing, read this statement if you have missed it:
<quote>
We encourage Red Crescent, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International
or the Red Cross to contact us and we will act as intermediaries to
facilitate the return of these bodies.
</quote>
Why don't you contact any of the above organizations to verify the
information in this report. All you need is just an email message. Is
this a hard thing to do?
It is also mentioned in the report that US soldiers in Iraq are aware
of such things and their officials tell them that these are only
rumors. If anyone of you knows anybody serving in Iraq, can ask him if
there are such widespread rumors in US military camps. If the answer
is yes, then you have to know that there is no smoke without fire!
Regardless of the source of the report, look at the content than the
cover. If you find it wrong, at least you will have the opportunity to
refute it. Are you waiting for the Pentagon to come and tell you, Yes,
we have done that?
Instead of screaming like babies, try to reason things!
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30 Nov 2004 08:28:40 AM |
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(Daylight) wrote in message news:<70ceae71.0411292310.43db6344@posting.google.com>...
Regardless of the source of the report, look at the content than the
cover. If you find it wrong, at least you will have the opportunity to
refute it. Are you waiting for the Pentagon to come and tell you, Yes,
we have done that?
Instead of screaming like babies, try to reason things!
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
They throw down Arab newsources with such impunity, yet it's these
same newsources that were questioning the case for an Iraqi invasion.
I am not certain that the US graves are a reality, but there's
probably a 'hint' of truth to it. The US government has certainly
done a good job in keeping people in the dark. The US media is
silent. I guess this is the 'freedom' that Americans want? The
'freedom to supersize a burger' maybe, but no freedoms that actually
make the government responsible.
-cos
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30 Nov 2004 03:28:54 PM |
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On 30 Nov 2004 06:28:40 -0800, (Cosmic00) wrote:
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
Anybody who does not think that large quantities of chemical weapons
are not in Iraq needs to Google "muquata weapons depot.'
--
"Saddam was found cowering in his little hole
in the ground. Supposedly, his goal was to remain
in hiding until all the shooting stopped. Well,
hey, it worked for the French." Jay Leno
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"Kavik Kang" <Kavik_Kang@hotmail.com> Spat the Words
"Colin Campbell" <activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> wrote in
message news:beppq0hi512rgkgbcu18135c8ppi0re8q6@4ax.com...
On 30 Nov 2004 06:28:40 -0800, (Cosmic00) wrote:
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
Anybody who does not think that large quantities of chemical weapons
are not in Iraq needs to Google "muquata weapons depot.'
Or apply the blindingly simple logic "you can't use what you don't have".
He didn't use what he didn't have, when we invaded March '03.
It's blindingly simple, the weapons inspections had mostly worked.
But Saddam was still alive and well and in power, and that's what
really burned Bush's gourd, that this mideast little tyrant who
had been repeatedly bested by the US Military was still in power
and able to order an assassination of his father.
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30 Nov 2004 11:59:41 PM |
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Colin Campbell <activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> Spat the
Words
On 30 Nov 2004 06:28:40 -0800, (Cosmic00) wrote:
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
Anybody who does not think that large quantities of chemical weapons
are not in Iraq needs to Google "muquata weapons depot.'
There's no links that come up when I do that.
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"Saddam was found cowering in his little hole
in the ground. Supposedly, his goal was to remain
in hiding until all the shooting stopped. Well,
hey, it worked for the French." Jay Leno
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01 Dec 2004 12:16:48 AM |
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R. Foreman wrote:
Colin Campbell <activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> Spat the
Words
On 30 Nov 2004 06:28:40 -0800, (Cosmic00) wrote:
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
Anybody who does not think that large quantities of chemical weapons
are not in Iraq needs to Google "muquata weapons depot.'
There's no links that come up when I do that.
I think Colin prolly meant:
"muqtada weapons depot"
- nilita
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01 Dec 2004 12:20:08 AM |
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R. Foreman wrote:
Colin Campbell <activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> Spat the
Words
On 30 Nov 2004 06:28:40 -0800, (Cosmic00) wrote:
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
Anybody who does not think that large quantities of chemical weapons
are not in Iraq needs to Google "muquata weapons depot.'
There's no links that come up when I do that.
I think Colin prolly meant:
"muqtada weapons depot"
- nilita
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On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 08:33:49 GMT, "Kavik Kang"
<Kavik_Kang@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Colin Campbell" <activated_95b@earthlink.net (remove underscore)> wrote in
message news:beppq0hi512rgkgbcu18135c8ppi0re8q6@4ax.com...
On 30 Nov 2004 06:28:40 -0800, (Cosmic00) wrote:
These same people are the people that believed whole-heartedly that
there were WMDs in Iraq. Even when there was no direct proof, and
Collin Powell couldn't backup any of his claims. In their case, their
ignorance is even worse... thousands of innocents have died because
of their incompetence and inability to question the government.
Anybody who does not think that large quantities of chemical weapons
are not in Iraq needs to Google "muquata weapons depot.'
Or apply the blindingly simple logic "you can't use what you don't have".
La N corrected my spelling. Do some digging, you might be surprised
at what you find.
--
"Saddam was found cowering in his little hole
in the ground. Supposedly, his goal was to remain
in hiding until all the shooting stopped. Well,
hey, it worked for the French." Jay Leno
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GO LEARN YOUR ABCs of what's worth fight for HOMO!
Click here: ABC
"Daylight" <daylight80231@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:70ceae71.0411291058.3e7065bb@posting.google.com...
I have read many reports saying that the number of mercenaries and
green card seekers serving in the US army is more than 40 thousand.
But I have never heard of 'half' a mercenary killed! Even the Iraqi
resistance does not have 40 thousand active members. I have been
puzzled about the fate of these mercenaries. Do they have some kind of
a resistance against death or their bodies vaporize when they die?
The truth however is very shameful. The Jewnited States disposes the
dead bodies of mercenaries in Iraqi rivers and deserts. They found it
a good strategy to minimize the war casualties. Not only mercenaries
get their dead bodies thrown in rivers, but also first class US
citizens get the same 'reward' if their dead bodies are badly
disfigured and beyond recognition. I doubt though this would have
happened if the disfigured soldier has been a Jew! If not for any
other reason, at least to avoid the famous label 'anti-semite'!
Report: Further Evidence Of Mass Graves Of US Soldiers In Iraq
Authors Name Withheld By Request
Published by Jihad Unspun. All Rights Are Reserved.
November 29, 2004
The original article in pdf format
(to save it in your harddisk, right click on the link and select save
target as)
http://www.jihadunspun.com/massgraves291124.pdf
Video footage to confirm US crime
(to save the video in your harddisk, right click the link and select
save target as)
http://www.jihadunspun.com/USmassgravesiraq.wmv (MediaPlayer)
if none of the above works, visit this website
http://www.jihadunspun.com/home.php
Since August 2004, JUS has been receiving reports of the discovery of
mass graves containing the bodies of US soldiers that have been
uncovered inside Iraq. Since that time, we have several different
reports with information from a variety of our sources on this
discovery. Now, for the first time, a comprehensive report has been
released. Its author must remain anonymous for obvious reasons but
this is the most comprehensive accounting of eyewitness testimonies
yet, including statements from some members of the US military.
Published in Arabic, this report has been translated by JUS and
describes in detail how the bodies of US soldiers are being disposed
of inside the country, validating the grim discovery of the lengths
the US will go to prevent the population from knowing the truth about
this conflict.
This is a crime of great magnititude. We know from reports that
surface each and every day from inside Iraq that the casualty numbers
being reported by the US military have no correlation to those that
are actually occurring. Yes, this is wartime and that can be expected
to some degree but to dump bodies into rivers and remote desert
locations where they pollute the environment shows that not only is
there no respect for these soldiers but no respect for the country of
Iraq either.
During the initial occupation of Afghanistan, JUS published two
eyewitness reports on the discovery of the bodies of American soldiers
in freezers stores in two separate medical facilities. Do not think
that the dumping of bodies is a new phenomena – it is not. While
we were unable to garner enough public interest due to the lack of
visual evidence, the footage that accompanies this report shows
clearly that these bodies, with well maintained teeth, do exist.
Further, the testimony of US soldiers contained in this report with
respect to the casualty numbers being covered over is clear evidence
that can not be ignored. It is our hope that this shocking report will
expose the truth of the "war on terror".
The location of the mass graves has been well documented. Both the
fishermen and the Bedouins are prepared to turn the bodies over to a
humanitarian organization. We encourage Red Crescent, Human Rights
Watch, Amnesty International or the Red Cross to contact us and we
will act as intermediaries to facilitate the return of these bodies.
JUS Editors
What America Does With Its Dead Soldiers In Iraq
This comprehensive report documents incidents and confessions on how
American occupying forces disposes of many of its dead soldiers, that
is, by dumping them from aircraft into rivers and desolate desert
locations in the hope that the corps will be eaten by wild animals or
will be decomposed in rivers and canals. This is a crime against
humanity and will undoubtedly be a sore spot in the history of
America, a country that prides itself as the most civilized society in
modern history. If the Americans back home and the rest of the world
come to know the details of this crime, the consequences will be of
great proportions.
American officers were shocked when bodies (of dead soldiers) that
were supposed to have been "taken care of" were returned to them by
Iraqi farmers and fishermen. It is obvious that Allah has decided to
expose this crime. Modest and down to earth Iraqis, who found the
American corpses, collected them from rivers and desert locations and
buried them in mass in graves. The Iraqis have honored dead Americans,
more than the American army has honored its own members.
Iraqis have buried dead Americans in various areas such as Diali river
shore, Tharthar area, near Sammara, and Hiran valleys in Ratibah area,
depending on where the bodies were uncovered. The commanders
responsible for making the decision to get rid of the bodies in such a
savage, and inhumane way, may have thought that such crime will go
unnoticed, especially in light of fast moving and ever-changing daily
events in Iraq. But Allah was watching and, He knew their malicious
intent, and, He decided to expose their crime.
Those who collected the corps from rivers and valleys and buried them
in their original black plastic bags did so in the name of mercy and
humanity. They also know that they gathered evidence of a horrific
crime. Such a body of evidence will remain to point a finger at the
savage nature of the leadership of the American occupying force in
Iraq for generations to come.
I decided to go to Diali area, 60 kilometers east of Baghdad, to get a
first hand look at what really did happen. When I got there, the most
senior fisherman, F.S. (only initials of his name for fear of reprisal
from Americans), insisted that I do not take photographs of them
(fishermen) and I do not refer to them by their full names for fear of
severe punishment at the hands of American soldiers. The reason for
their fear was not groundless. It was based on their (the fishermen)
own experience with American occupying force back in August. Back
then, some fishermen caught black plastic bags in their nets. The bags
contained three bodies of dead Americans.
The fishermen notified the American authority in the area and handed
the plastic bags with their content over to Americans. Around that
time, fishermen learned that Americans have also received additional
bodies from fellow fishermen in other remote areas near the banks of
the Digla River. The bodies were badly burned, disfigured, and were
mostly beyond recognition, and there were bodies of females among
them. The fishermen were astonished when the Americans told them that
the bodies were of American soldiers who committed suicide by placing
themselves in black plastic bags before throwing themselves into the
river.
Fishermen then realized that Americans are hiding something that they
do not want anyone to know about.
Some fishermen, out of naivety, thought that Americans would give them
a reward for handing over the bodies of their (Americans) comrades but
they were surprised to see that Americans have (in some cases) accused
them of killing those American soldiers. Only then, fishermen decided
not to hand over any bodies they catch in their nets but rather burry
them in mass graves, especially after noticing an increased number of
plastic bags being dumped in the river by American helicopters, which
they did during the pre-dawn hours.
The fishermen were concerned about river pollution as a result of
decomposition of dead bodies. Diali River is a small river originates
in Iran and pours into Digla River. Old fashion fishing areas are
remote and away from any major inhabited area. These remote areas are
only known to fishermen and farmers and the fishermen in those
isolated areas have a simple and uncorrupted life style away from
modern civilization.
The fishermen could not believe those Americans, who claimed to have
come to free Iraqis from a tyrant ruler would throw away the bodies of
their comrades in that remote river. They told me that the incidents
started in early August. Dawn is the best fishing time, according to
fishermen, so they gather at dawn, every day, to start fishing. In
early August, fishermen noticed a number of helicopters coming and
dumping large bags into the river during these dark hours. Apparently,
pilots have not thought of anyone living in those remote areas, let
alone, watching them dumping those large bags in the middle of the
darkness. What ultimately resulted was that the fishermen started to
catch these bags instead of fish in their net. When they opened the
bags at the river shore, they saw completely burned and disfigured
bodies of dead males and females. All bodies were naked and had signs
suggesting they were non-Iraqis- they were foreigners with different
complexions and teeth.
As peaceful and simple people, fishermen knew that dead bodies must be
treated with respect and must be buried in land instead of being
thrown in rivers. Therefore, they dug large mass graves in a number of
locations on the river bank and buried their catch in them. When I
suggested to visit and dig up one of those graves to see for myself
what is there, they almost killed me for such a stupid suggestion.
They informed me that I should know about the sacred nature of dead
bodies and I should know about Arab and Islamic traditions that
prohibit looking at the private parts of females. They insisted that
they have more than 65 dead bodies and they will reveal all details
about the mass grave locations only to neutral organization committed
to send the remains to their loved ones back home.
Wolves Led Bedouins To Other Remote Desert Dumping Locations
A man we will call AY is from Tikrit, and lives in Sammara. He told me
that his brother works with a civil defense unit with the American
occupying force. His brother and others in that unit have the duties
of evacuating dead and wounded American soldiers left after resistance
operations. His bother told him that the number of casualties
disclosed by Americans is always far less than the real number. The
last incident he described was the shooting down of an American copter
in Fallujah at the beginning of Ramadan. The American central command
in Iraq reported 13 being killed in that operation however, his
brother and his co-workers removed more than 30 dead American bodies
that were badly burned and their faces lost all recognizable signs and
the bodies completely charred.
AY informed me that mobile Bedouin (nomads) living in the isolated
areas of Tharthar in the desert of Sammar and Hiran desert valley
discovered many American bodies in their signature black plastic bags
by accident. They noticed a sudden increase in the number of wolves
roaming those areas. They soon discovered remains of dead bodies that
caused a large number of wolves to establish residency in those areas.
Nomads in those areas collected the remains and buried them in mass
graves out of respect for the dead and also to rid the areas of
unwanted large population of wolves. Did American commanders want
wolves to eat the bodies of their dead comrades in order to destroy
the evidence of their savage crime?
People living in those remote areas are still asking why would
Americans treat their soldiers like this? Why do they dump their dead
in rivers and desert locations instead of sending them back to their
relatives for proper burial? Is this the kind of civilization they
want to introduce into Iraq? Is this the kind of values their
candidates running for office talk about? These questions have
attacked me like a wild beast. I was determined to find answers.
On The Road To Find Out
I went to Baghdad looking for answers. American soldiers in Baghdad
streets are overloaded with arms, they take cover in their armored
vehicles and tanks, and their shaky hands are on the triggers ready to
fire at any innocent soul under the name of protecting themselves from
resistance operations. They do not allow us to approach them or talk
to them. They live in constant state of fear. There, behind the
Palestine Hotel, which is surrounded by barbed wire and sophisticated
security systems, there were two off duty, armored vehicles. Exhausted
American soldiers inside, were sound asleep. As I attempted to take a
photograph of the driver of one of the vehicles as he was resting next
to his open door with his rifle besides him, he sensed my presence and
immediately grabbed his rifle and was about to shoot me. I put my arms
with the camera up in the air in a clear sign of surrender until his
commanding officer came to my rescue. The officer took away the film
from my camera, cursed me, and let me go. I asked the officer the
nagging questions, but instead of giving me an answer, he scolded me,
and shoved me out the hotel lobby all together.
A few days later I got the chance to carry a conversation with an
American soldier on Saadoun Street. I started my conversation with a
woman we will call Bird, a female soldier from Texas. She told me that
her job as well as the job of all soldiers in her military police
battalion all over Iraq is to oversee the conduct and discipline of
American soldiers during their duties on the streets of Baghdad. I
asked her about those soldiers who are said to desert their units and
slip through the borders. She said (with reluctance) that those
soldiers do not belong to the American army but rather are mercenaries
who were recruited from different parts of the world after they
answered a number of want ads placed by the U.S. government before the
beginning of the war. They were promised high pay and other incentives
and in some cases they were also promised US citizenship when the war
is over and upon their return to the States. Unfortunately, when Bush
announced the end to combat operations, those soldiers had the right
to end their services and leave without being accused of running away
from the battle field, Bird said. The incidents of desertion increased
as the resistance operations against Americans increased. Some of them
were caught, but they cited the end of combat operations as the reason
for their departure, they further said that they did not run away from
the battle field because there were none, according to Bush. "We put
some in jails and some were sent to headquarter in Qatar for further
action" she said. Bird said that the military police units concentrate
their work on Baghdad streets because soldiers there work under
enormous pressure. Many of them are not convinced of the necessity of
this war.
I then gathered my courage to ask Bird the nagging question. What
about those bodies dumped from helicopters into remote and uninhabited
areas of Iraq? And why are those bodies not returned to America? Bird
replied with an unmistakable degree of hesitation and reluctance. She
said that such stories have made their way to military camps and
caused a good deal of disappointment and low morale among soldiers
"but let me assure you, the stories are nothing but rumors; that's
what our Commanding officers tell us."
As Bird was finishing her sentence, a loud scream came from another
female soldier by the name of Martha: "You are a liar, you know that
those soldiers who were burned beyond recognition are being disposed
of in the jungles of Iraq" said Martha. "Our commanders are afraid of
a public outcry when families get bodies of their loved ones but they
could not say a goodbye because the bodies are not recognizable"
added Martha.
Bird quickly interrupted and said that Martha was emotionally
disturbed because she lost a dear friend of hers. Martha's friend was
killed in a resistance operation and his body was completely charred.
The body was not returned to his family in the States, and to this
date, no one knows what happened to the body of Martha's friend.
Bird went on to say that Martha is only 20 years old and "all of us
here feel sorry for her. "We (American soldiers) are confused,
especially female soldiers. We love life, and as fighters, we belong
to the most powerful army in the world, we obey and carry out orders
in the most disciplined manner, and we can defeat any military power
in this world. But out here in Iraq, we do not know what exactly we
are supposed to do. We have completed the liberation of Iraq and we
have rid the world from the cruelty of Saddam, and to that end, we
should be rewarded for what we have accomplished and go home to enjoy
life again. Here we are among civilians, we fight ghosts that we do
not see, we do not know who they are, and they do not make themselves
known, and we kill many innocent people including children. We are
constantly trying to stay alive, and that is basically what we do
here."
Martha jumped in hysterically and said
"We do not know what Bush and Rumsfeld want us to do here in Iraq. We
do nothing but lose friends every single day. Our friends who fought
and were burned and disfigured beyond recognition in the line of duty
are rewarded by having their dead bodies dumped in rivers at night"
Martha continued her conversation with me by saying, "Do you know what
I wish most will happen to me? I wish I can go back to my country as
soon as possible to live a normal life with my family. But I also wish
that in case I get killed, I would be killed by bullets and not by
burning to death. This way, my mother can get my dead body, recognize
me, and say good bye to me for the last time. All of us here
desperately want to go home alive and if that's not possible, at least
as recognizable bodies instead of facing the horrible fate of getting
dumped in some river in the middle of night".
More US Soldiers Speak
I then went to Baghdad University. At the entrance to Baghdad
University there is an American tank positioned there for security.
One of the tank crew is a female soldier who developed a friendship
with the sister of my driver. I let my driver's sister ask her friend,
the American soldier, this question on my behalf: How could America,
the land of civilization and human rights allow for disposing of dead
bodies of their comrades in rivers and remote desert locations? The
American soldier replied in an arrogant and angry manner.
"Those are not our comrades. They are mercenaries who were hired to
perform a job. They joined in under a specific contract with a special
incentive to become American citizens. When the war is over, they
waved the right of their families, who are living illegally in the
States, to their bodies if they are killed in action. But in this
case, their families will be eligible for citizenship status, the
thing that their sons and daughters have died for"
The American soldier went on to tell my driver's sister that in her
opinion those soldiers do not deserve to be sent back to the states,
after all, they were mercenaries, they are not fighting for a cause,
they are basically second class citizens who have no rights at all and
they deserve to have their bodies dumped in rivers and deserts. She
sees them as a weak point in the American army that caused significant
degrading of American armies' morale in Iraq.
I then went to the American Communication and media center, located in
the Conventions Palace, in Baghdad. I met a communication officer
there and I kept pressing the question. The officer insisted on not
revealing his name, answered my question as follows: "The decision to
get rid of the disfigured bodies of dead American and mercenary
soldiers in this manner is an internal decision made by the Allied
forces general Command Center in Qatar, with the backing of the entire
American administration. The decision makers did not want Bush's
popularity to take a nose dive in this crucial time of election
campaign. Should the American public find out the casualties of this
war, this could undoubtedly affect Bush's chances for reelection."
The American officer went on to say that dumping bodies in rivers and
desert locations to get rid of them is a horrific crime. He further
said that "American commanders are trying to convince the rest of us
that sending disfigured bodies to their families is useless for burial
is useless if they (the families) can not recognize their loved ones."
The communication officer finally and firmly said, much to my
amazement:
"If they think they can hide facts by dumping dead bodies into rivers
and deserts, the daily transfer of more than 50 wounded soldiers
expose their lies. We send more than 50 wounded every day to various
hospitals in Germany and U.S. Many of those who were wounded have lost
limps and have become living corpses"
"It is the first time since the Vietnam war that the American army has
suffered such a huge number of wounded soldiers on a daily basis"
added the officer. "We are frustrated, especially that the war is
supposed to have ended after removing Saddam. There is no
justification for this continued hostility that results in daily loss
of lives to the point that forces our commanders to resort to a savage
and most inhumane way to destroy dead bodies in order to hide the real
cost of this war. The American medical services branch of the U.S.
Army, housed in the Allied Forces command center in Baghdad has become
the most secretive center in order to prevent the real numbers of dead
and wounded Americans from reaching the rest of the soldiers and
officers in Iraq".
Please direct any inquiries about this report to Bruce Kennedy,
Editor-in-Chief, Jihad Unspun
bkennedy@jihadunspun.com
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29 Nov 2004 01:53:38 PM |
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vember 29, 2004
http://www.jihadunspun.com/massgraves291124.pdf
[snip]
man, it really makes me laugh how some people believe the crap on this
website. totally LAUGHABLE.
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29 Nov 2004 05:05:08 PM |
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In news:Xns95B0CA58C2D81borrisselecta85423@195.129.110.68 borris
<noemail@noemail.com> wrote:
vember 29, 2004
http://www.jihadunspun.com/massgraves291124.pdf
[snip]
man, it really makes me laugh how some people believe the crap on this
website. totally LAUGHABLE.
Consider where the poster is from. Are you still surprised?
NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.42.2.26
inetnum: 213.42.2.0 - 213.42.2.255
netname: EMIRNET-EMIRNET
descr: Emirates Internet
descr: Public Internet Service
descr: Emirates Telecommunications Corporation
descr: P.O. Box 1150, Dubai, UAE
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Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@visi.com
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