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User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?La_Bocca_Della_Verit=E0_-_D=E9j=E0_Vu_Le_Proph=E9te?="
Date: 20 Dec 2004 10:41:11 PM
Object: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??!
The phenomenon of being conscious and aware that one is dreaming, while
one is in the process of dreaming.
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www.levity.com/mavericks/glossary.htm
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Dreaming in which the person is aware that the experience is a dream.
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www.ghosttracker.com/glossary.html
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the ability to consciously alter the content and control the actions in
your dreams.
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www.dreammoods.com/reference/glossary.htm
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hOOROO ;-)
uNCLE wALLY ;-)
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User: "MISHKA"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 21 Dec 2004 04:50:51 AM
Could this just be realizing that What Seemed Real was just a dream
!!!
This is my understanding of "LUCID DREAMING" !!!
--
Just A Thought !!!
Wait, I'm receiving another transmission from the great beyond.
Wouldn't you know it,
it was a 'Wrong Number' :-(
"La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le Prophéte"
<yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1103604071.160836.299760@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

The phenomenon of being conscious and aware that one is dreaming,

while

one is in the process of dreaming.

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www.levity.com/mavericks/glossary.htm
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Dreaming in which the person is aware that the experience is a

dream.


===================================
www.ghosttracker.com/glossary.html
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the ability to consciously alter the content and control the

actions in

your dreams.

==========================================
www.dreammoods.com/reference/glossary.htm
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hOOROO ;-)

uNCLE wALLY ;-)

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User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?La_Bocca_Della_Verit=E0_-_D=E9j=E0_Vu_Le_Proph=E9te?="

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 21 Dec 2004 11:09:47 PM
Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......
Hooroo ;-0
Uncle Wally (parapsychologist,eschatologist, metaphysicist
extraordinaire ;-)
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User: "MonsieurStat"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 21 Dec 2004 11:22:11 PM
"La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le Prophéte"
<yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1103692187.916739.247200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......

Google says: Did you mean Astral Projection?
Stat.

Hooroo ;-0

Uncle Wally (parapsychologist,eschatologist, metaphysicist
extraordinaire ;-)

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User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?La_Bocca_Della_Verit=E0_-_D=E9j=E0_Vu_Le_Proph=E9te?="

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 21 Dec 2004 11:46:53 PM
Yes, astral projection it is, however;
Remote viewing would be closer to the end result of visualizing one's
future reality...
I used to "Astrally project" myself about my body when I was in bed,
but I stopped doing it after realizing it was not supposed to be
considered "normal" behavior....
As for "Hyperdimension reality" it takes a lot of explaining &
understanding best left to the WOrld Wide Web to explain -- it's easier
to comprehend the concept that to put into words or explain in writing:
Check out the following :
hyperdimensional matter, a hyperspatial
energy continuum and the human
perception of dimensional reality--a series
of conjectures on the nature of reality
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The possibiliy exists that all elementary particles of matter be
resonance patterns of spatial energy? There is nothing that has ever
been presented that could disprove this conjecture. All matter may be
NOTHING more than the organized nothingness of space arranged in
specific patterns.
Maybe our interpretation of a three dimensional universe is the
result of
the human nervous system. The brain may be structured or put together
in such
a way that everything appears as three dimensional. Maybe the three
dimensional universe that "normal" humans perceive is an illusion
created
by our nervous systems-- or in other words it is how our brain
reconstructs
the environment it is immersed in. Maybe there are many more dimensions
that
"normal" humans cannot perceive because of some imposed limitation on
our
consciousness. Matter may in fact be hyperdimensional in nature. All
observed
matter in the universe may have a hyperdimensional projection
associated with
it which is beyond the perceptual abilities of the nervous systems of
"normal" human beings. This hyperdimensional matter that we only see
as
three dimensional could be resonance's in space and all elementary
particles
could be node points of this energy which interacts with the fabric of
space
to form stable configuration patterns of energy that are mutually
coupled to
the fabric of space. Maybe there is truly only one super-dimension of
space
that can have any number of different aspects or sub-dimensions that
are
dependent upon certain factors which I do not care to speculate on at
this
time. The very limited three dimensional interpretation by the normal
humans
in this universe may only be a very small infinitesimal slice of a much
greater reality that is simply beyond the detection of the neural
hardware of
normal human beings. Maybe a limitation of consciousness is being
surreptitiously imparted on normal humans by very advanced technical
beings
who understand the mechanics and physics of conscious perception.
Resonant patterns of electrical fields. positive and negative
polarities
of energy merging together into toroidal shaped flux loops forming
stable
configuration patterns of energy that are locked into phase with each
other
around a closed circular path.
space is composed of or at least has something in it that is very
microscopic in nature. Much smaller than subatomic particles. It has
been
speculated by a number of "known' physicists including Jon Wheeler that
all
matter may have been conceived out of the fabric of space. In other
words
subatomic particles could be made up ultimately of curved empty space.
Maybe
this energy flow can create eddy currents that peel off into stable
vortex
patterns or ring like structrures forming stable subatomic particles.
These
particles could be likened possibly to tiny vibrating toroidal shaped
flux
loops whose motion is fed by the infinite flow of hyerspatial energy.
If there is a zero point energy field that is higher dimensional in
nature
and is flowing through many different three dimensional universes
recycling
energy through them then all subatomic particles may indeed be
connected to
this infinite energy flux or hyperspatial energy grid. Space could be
filled
with a virtually infinite number of mini-white holes and
mini-blackholes that
act as hyperspatial energy channels gating in and out currents of
energy
through these spinning vortices with mini-whiteholes having rotation in
one
direction and mini-blackholes having rotation in the opposite
direction. Each
subatomic particle could be a loop of flux(possibly vibrating at a
certain
frequency) connected by a mini-white hole and mini-blackhole. This flux
loop
may also bent around itself in the shape of a torus forming what would
then
be called a toroidal flux loop. It could be this constant energy flux
through
these mini-wormholes that creates the all of the manifestations of
matter and
energy that is experienced in this three dimensional universe.
re: TOROIDAL ENERGY FIELDS being created by a VORTEX.
Two opposite polarities of energy merging together to form a closed
loop
of flux(energy)in a toroidal shape object---similar to the way two
poles
merging on a sphere would form a torus or donut shape if they joined
together. Matter could be the result of the hyperdimensional energy
flow of
the zero point field interacting with the topological structure of
space to
produce the elementary particles via positive and negative subatomic
vortices
exchanging or channeling energy flow through the space-time continuum.
Elementary particles and all matter would then be organized patterns of
the
nothingness of space which are held together into stable configurations
by
this hyperspatial energy flow which would be interacting with the
geometrical
properties of space. This interaction would produce patterns of
matter that
are consistent with the spatial--temporal harmonic relationships that
make-up
the framework or lattice structure of the fabric of space and define
the
parameters that allow for the formation of matter(structure). Put
another
way it seems that if the fabric of space has some definite
configuration to
it then the types of matter that exist within it's structural framework
must
itself be consistent in some way with this underlying pattern. Maybe
this
could be defined as a patterning of frequencies or also as the
resonant(frequency) patterns of space(energy). This underlying
framework of
space should serve as the force that governs the formation of matter.
Therefore maybe the force that governs the formation and behavior of
all
forms of matter within the universe is implicate within the fabric of
space
itself. The hyperdimensional energy flux of the zero point energy
field
could lock into resonant patterns based upon the patterning of spatial
frequencies that constitute framework of this space-time continuum.
There
maybe an infinite number of spatial dimensions based upon different
patterning's of frequencies that may be out of phase with this specific
universe. Like I have mentioned earlier there may also be just on
infinitely
complex super-domain or dimension that has an infinite number of
different
properties, aspects, or sub-dimensions that are simultaneously
co-existing
with each other in an intricate web of energy that is a constant state
of
flux producing an infinite number of universes or dimensions all
different
with each other in an cycle of energy feedback through these
co-existing
dimensions. So the space-time continuum of this universe may only be
one of
an infinite number of co-existing dimensions that are interconnected
via a
hyperspatial energy grid that is currently being referred to as the
zero
point energy field.
There could very well be an energy flux that is hyperdimensional in
nature
that could flow through different universes linking up many different
three
dimensional universes via this energy flow or "hyperspatial energy
grid'.
There could be a constant feedback mechanism between separate
dimensions via
the hyperspatial grid that could allow for an infinite cycling of
energy
between a virtually infinite number of dimensions. Different universes
could
be separated by the frequency at which these flowing currents vibrate
in
space. Maybe something different too but I have a feeling that
frequency and
wavelength may have something to do with a higher dimension that runs
orthogonal the three spatial dimensions of this universe and that this
difference in frequency may allow many separate dimensions to
simultaneously
co-exist in the same three spatial dimensions. I have also been
thinking
recently about the possibility that within each point or domain in this
higher frequency dimension there may exists other dimensions even
within the
same frequency and space as other dimensions but are out of phase with
each
other to varying degrees.
It could also be possible that this universe is based upon a
specific
energy/frequency pattern and that the patterning(frequencies) of this
energy
determines the parameters through which matter can form. In other words
there
may be a set of operating parameters(spatial,frequency) in each domain
that
provide boundaries for the creation of matter(structure) allowing only
certain field configurations of energy to exist.
If some of what I have just mentioned were true even just in part
then the
implications of this would be phenomenal. At this very moment there
could be
universes very different from this one coming into and out of
existence.
There could be many different intelligence's with some being more
advanced
than others by many, many powers. There could be different forms of
matter
within this same spatial dimension that have different physics but are
still
operating within the parameters of the energy patterns that exist
within or
makeup the framework of this universe. Maybe these different forms of
matter
do not interact except under strange or unusual circumstances that do
not
usually occur naturally or if so very rarely.
energy interaction of space--(relationship)--space/energy
interaction
TETRAHEDRAL CONFIGURATION of ENERGY FIELDS
Superimposed energy fields.
Related topics of interest--Vortex Ring structures
Tapping the Zero Point Energy by Moray B. King(most reccomended)
(An excellent source of information on Zero Point Energy research)
Pyramid Power --The Millennium Science by Dr. G Patrick Flanagan
The Harmonic Conquest of Space by Bruce Cathie
The Energy Grid by Bruce Cathie
The Bridge to Infinity Bruce Cathie
Written by Charles Noonan Vind
Return tot My Homepage at:http://www.west.net/~simon/index.html
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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 04:39:48 PM
In article <1103692187.916739.247200@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "=?iso-8859-1?q?La_Bocca_Della_Verit=E0_-_D=E9j=E0_Vu_Le_Proph=E9te?=" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......

"Lucid dreaming" is simply being aware that you're dreaming while in the dream.
Woods
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 21 Dec 2004 11:45:41 PM
On 21 Dec 2004 21:09:47 -0800, "La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le
Prophéte" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......

Maybe you can help me out with a reocurring lucid dream I have about
my deceased best-friend, Uncle Wally.
In the dream she is telling me that she's *not* dead.. but when I ask
her to explain (because in the dream I know she's dead) what happened,
where she's been, how she faked her death, why she hasn't contacted me
if she's really not dead - she has no answer. She just says that
she's not dead.
Now this is a reoccuring dream - it's always the same. And it seems
*so* real, like I'm half awake and half asleep.
I did have a dream months after she died where she told me that she
met St. Peter and it was "beautiful" - so I thought she was at peace.
But now I'm having these dreams where she insisits she isn't dead??
We were very close when she was alive - we clicked immediately. We
had an extremely unique bond that most people never find in another
person. And I've never found that bond again with anyone else.
So I'm wondering if our souls still connect?
I know how freaky this sounds but the dreams bother me, and since you
brought up lucid dreaming I figured I'd ask your advice.
What do you think is happening, and how can I make it stop?
Any advice appreciated.
Dani

Hooroo ;-0

Uncle Wally (parapsychologist,eschatologist, metaphysicist
extraordinaire ;-)

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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 04:43:05 PM
In article <qi1is0leo2f9r6c3n51kigfvgki1jdd2jl@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 21 Dec 2004 21:09:47 -0800, "La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le
Prophéte" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......


Maybe you can help me out with a reocurring lucid dream I have about
my deceased best-friend, Uncle Wally.

In the dream she is telling me that she's *not* dead.. but when I ask
her to explain (because in the dream I know she's dead) what happened,
where she's been, how she faked her death, why she hasn't contacted me
if she's really not dead - she has no answer. She just says that
she's not dead.

Now this is a reoccuring dream - it's always the same. And it seems
*so* real, like I'm half awake and half asleep.

I did have a dream months after she died where she told me that she
met St. Peter and it was "beautiful" - so I thought she was at peace.

But now I'm having these dreams where she insisits she isn't dead??

Well, to be honest, if she's met St. Peter, how could she be dead? I mean, she
may not be in physical form, but is that "dead"? I would say that, from her
perspective, she is not "dead". She has simply moved on, but possibly can't
describe it.
One thing is for sure, she is not dead to you. You will always carry her with
you.


We were very close when she was alive - we clicked immediately. We
had an extremely unique bond that most people never find in another
person. And I've never found that bond again with anyone else.
So I'm wondering if our souls still connect?

I know how freaky this sounds but the dreams bother me, and since you
brought up lucid dreaming I figured I'd ask your advice.

What do you think is happening, and how can I make it stop?

When you have the dream, ask her why she has been coming to you.
Woods
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User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 06:42:43 PM
(Woodswun) wrote:

In article <qi1is0leo2f9r6c3n51kigfvgki1jdd2jl@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 21 Dec 2004 21:09:47 -0800, "La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le
Prophéte" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......


Maybe you can help me out with a reocurring lucid dream I have about
my deceased best-friend, Uncle Wally.

In the dream she is telling me that she's *not* dead.. but when I ask
her to explain (because in the dream I know she's dead) what happened,
where she's been, how she faked her death, why she hasn't contacted me
if she's really not dead - she has no answer. She just says that
she's not dead.

Now this is a reoccuring dream - it's always the same. And it seems
*so* real, like I'm half awake and half asleep.

I did have a dream months after she died where she told me that she
met St. Peter and it was "beautiful" - so I thought she was at peace.

But now I'm having these dreams where she insisits she isn't dead??


Well, to be honest, if she's met St. Peter, how could she be dead? I mean, she
may not be in physical form, but is that "dead"? I would say that, from her
perspective, she is not "dead". She has simply moved on, but possibly can't
describe it.

One thing is for sure, she is not dead to you. You will always carry her with
you.


We were very close when she was alive - we clicked immediately. We
had an extremely unique bond that most people never find in another
person. And I've never found that bond again with anyone else.
So I'm wondering if our souls still connect?

I know how freaky this sounds but the dreams bother me, and since you
brought up lucid dreaming I figured I'd ask your advice.

What do you think is happening, and how can I make it stop?


When you have the dream, ask her why she has been coming to you.

Woods

Mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites. Ugh!
Grantland
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 07:37:55 PM
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:42:43 GMT,
(Grantland)
wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com (Woodswun) wrote:

In article <qi1is0leo2f9r6c3n51kigfvgki1jdd2jl@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 21 Dec 2004 21:09:47 -0800, "La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le
Prophéte" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......


Maybe you can help me out with a reocurring lucid dream I have about
my deceased best-friend, Uncle Wally.

In the dream she is telling me that she's *not* dead.. but when I ask
her to explain (because in the dream I know she's dead) what happened,
where she's been, how she faked her death, why she hasn't contacted me
if she's really not dead - she has no answer. She just says that
she's not dead.

Now this is a reoccuring dream - it's always the same. And it seems
*so* real, like I'm half awake and half asleep.

I did have a dream months after she died where she told me that she
met St. Peter and it was "beautiful" - so I thought she was at peace.

But now I'm having these dreams where she insisits she isn't dead??


Well, to be honest, if she's met St. Peter, how could she be dead? I mean, she
may not be in physical form, but is that "dead"? I would say that, from her
perspective, she is not "dead". She has simply moved on, but possibly can't
describe it.

One thing is for sure, she is not dead to you. You will always carry her with
you.


We were very close when she was alive - we clicked immediately. We
had an extremely unique bond that most people never find in another
person. And I've never found that bond again with anyone else.
So I'm wondering if our souls still connect?

I know how freaky this sounds but the dreams bother me, and since you
brought up lucid dreaming I figured I'd ask your advice.

What do you think is happening, and how can I make it stop?


When you have the dream, ask her why she has been coming to you.

Woods

Mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites. Ugh!

Who exactly is "mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites", Mr.
Conversational? Woods? Me? Uncle Wally? Where's the lie and
where's the hypocrisy?
You come with these stupid one-liners but have nothing to back it up.
Now we all know you can talk - so what's up? Elaborate.
Dani

Grantland

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User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 08:25:32 PM
Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:42:43 GMT,

(Grantland)
wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com (Woodswun) wrote:

<snipped the cheap lies and the stinking hypocrisy>

Woods


Mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites. Ugh!


Who exactly is "mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites", Mr.
Conversational? Woods? Me? Uncle Wally? Where's the lie and
where's the hypocrisy?

You come with these stupid one-liners but have nothing to back it up.

Now we all know you can talk - so what's up? Elaborate.

Dani

Beat it, skank. GO TO THE TRAILER!
G
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:01:43 PM
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:25:32 GMT,
(Grantland)
wrote:

Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 00:42:43 GMT,

(Grantland)
wrote:

woodswun@tepidmail.com (Woodswun) wrote:

<snipped the cheap lies and the stinking hypocrisy>

WHAT lies and WHAT hypocrisy? Talk about "mealy mouthed"

Mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites. Ugh!


Who exactly is "mealy mouthed liars and hypocrites", Mr.
Conversational? Woods? Me? Uncle Wally? Where's the lie and
where's the hypocrisy?

You come with these stupid one-liners but have nothing to back it up.

Now we all know you can talk - so what's up? Elaborate.

Beat it, skank. GO TO THE TRAILER!

Hey! Great explanantion for your accusations! Instead of backing up
your original lie and accusation, you come with *another* one-liner
that's nothing but a lie and accusation.. good job! You'd make a
*wonderful* public speaker!
Listen, I don't know what the ***** your problem is - or why you've
suddenly turned on me when I'm the only one who has tried to see the
good in you. I honestly don't get it.
But you're back with your idiotic, infantile insults that you started
with over three years ago.
*****-poor excuse for a human being. I should've listened to everyone
when they said what a beast you are.
Dani
.
User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:18:49 PM
Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

hnnnnnnnnnnnnn mmmmmmblabber eeeeeeuuuuuuuuerrrrrrrrrrr

BEAT OFF MORON
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User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 23 Dec 2004 08:45:23 AM
Grantland wrote:

Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:


hnnnnnnnnnnnnn mmmmmmblabber eeeeeeuuuuuuuuerrrrrrrrrrr



BEAT OFF MORON

BEHAVE, GMB!
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 23 Dec 2004 03:01:32 AM
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 03:18:49 GMT,
(Grantland)
wrote:

Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

hnnnnnnnnnnnnn mmmmmmblabber eeeeeeuuuuuuuuerrrrrrrrrrr


BEAT OFF MORON

Oh I'm crushed! What a way with words you have, sir! Why that
intelligence and wit - I, I can't compete! Just can't compete, Pete.
You must enjoy being lonely and miserable.. and obviously heartless
if you could break into a thread like this (talking about my deceased
best-friend) with your child-like antics. But then again, you've
probably never had a friend with your attitude, so you wouldn't
understand losing one.
Shove your poems and your: "I'm shy; I like picking flowers" up your
diseased arse. THIS is the *real* (putrid) you.
Dani
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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 08:38:00 PM
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 22:43:05 GMT,
(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <qi1is0leo2f9r6c3n51kigfvgki1jdd2jl@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 21 Dec 2004 21:09:47 -0800, "La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le
Prophéte" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Oftentimes, lucid dreams are a projection of one's self into their
future dimensional reality -- ie;
the abiliity to tap into the Universal Consciousness & thereby
transcend the boundaries of the
time-space-continuum -- refer to "Hyperdimensional Reality" or do a Mr
Google search.......


Maybe you can help me out with a reocurring lucid dream I have about
my deceased best-friend, Uncle Wally.
In the dream she is telling me that she's *not* dead.. but when I ask
her to explain (because in the dream I know she's dead) what happened,
where she's been, how she faked her death, why she hasn't contacted me
if she's really not dead - she has no answer. She just says that
she's not dead.

Now this is a reoccuring dream - it's always the same. And it seems
*so* real, like I'm half awake and half asleep.

I did have a dream months after she died where she told me that she
met St. Peter and it was "beautiful" - so I thought she was at peace.

But now I'm having these dreams where she insisits she isn't dead??

Well, to be honest, if she's met St. Peter, how could she be dead?

That's true.. some say Heaven is our real home. And the strangest
thing is, Woods, I didn't know that St. Peter was the one who let
people into Heaven. I know I should've being raised Catholic, or
maybe I just forgot. But after I awoke from that dream, I immediately
called my mother and told her - and she said: "Honey, St. Peter is the
one who let's people into Heaven."
So I *know* that it wasn't merely a dream; I knew it was my
best-friend because I didn't know about St. Peter.

I mean, she
may not be in physical form, but is that "dead"? I would say that, from her
perspective, she is not "dead". She has simply moved on, but possibly can't
describe it.

She can't - I never get an answer when I ask her to explain. Maybe
I'm not *supposed* to know?

One thing is for sure, she is not dead to you. You will always carry her with
you.

I can't seem to get over her. We were just so close. And the fact
that she was stabbed and murdered in such a fashion triples the pain.

We were very close when she was alive - we clicked immediately. We
had an extremely unique bond that most people never find in another
person. And I've never found that bond again with anyone else.
So I'm wondering if our souls still connect?

I know how freaky this sounds but the dreams bother me, and since you
brought up lucid dreaming I figured I'd ask your advice.

What do you think is happening, and how can I make it stop?

When you have the dream, ask her why she has been coming to you.

Thank you - I will. Because in the dreams I am totally aware. She
doesn't answer the other questions - but maybe if I put it point blank
and direct like that I'll get an answer.
I appreciate you talking to me about this because no one believes me.
Dani

Woods

.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:02:48 PM
Dani wrote:
8<


I appreciate you talking to me about this because no one believes me.

I do.
There are some tricks you can use with lucid dreaming.
If you feel that you're slipping out of the dream... try spinning around
a couple of times. Another technique is to look at the palms of your
dream hands. If you can do this then you should be able to direct the
dream to your designs.
If she's saying to you that she's not dead, then perhaps that's supposed
to mean that she's reborn. The time period between would fall into the
normal range, in my limited experience.
-A
.
User: "=?iso-8859-1?q?La_Bocca_Della_Verit=E0_-_D=E9j=E0_Vu_Le_Proph=E9te?="

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:02:59 PM
Good point !!!!!!!!
Reborn !!
Didn't think of that one !
Good lateral thinking !
Reincarnation will be my next topic -
Tomorrow !!
Hooroo ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:09:25 PM
La Bocca Della Verità - Déjà Vu Le Prophéte wrote:

Good point !!!!!!!!

Reborn !!

Didn't think of that one !

Good lateral thinking !

Reincarnation will be my next topic -
Tomorrow !!

I look forward to it, one of my pet subjects.
Hooroo!
-A



Hooroo ;-)

Uncle Wally ;-)

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User: "Tadapope"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 24 Dec 2004 07:24:59 PM
tHAT'S WHAT i DO DURING THE fEw
sane moments I happen to experience.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
Tom
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
.


User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:14:09 PM
In article <cqdcbm$3u6$7@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Absolute Zero <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dani wrote:

8<


I appreciate you talking to me about this because no one believes me.


I do.

There are some tricks you can use with lucid dreaming.

If you feel that you're slipping out of the dream... try spinning around
a couple of times. Another technique is to look at the palms of your
dream hands. If you can do this then you should be able to direct the
dream to your designs.

If she's saying to you that she's not dead, then perhaps that's supposed
to mean that she's reborn. The time period between would fall into the
normal range, in my limited experience.

Good catch, but I think that the shortest time for being reborn is pretty close
to 20 years, and I don't think nearly that much time has passed.
BTW - at one time you'd indicated that you record your dreams on your computer.
Do you use any particular program for that? Mostly interested in if you just
use a word processor, or if you use some other type of application that allows
you to cross-reference dream symbols, etc.
Woods
.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 09:48:03 PM
Woodswun wrote:

In article <cqdcbm$3u6$7@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Absolute Zero <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dani wrote:

8<

I appreciate you talking to me about this because no one believes me.


I do.

There are some tricks you can use with lucid dreaming.

If you feel that you're slipping out of the dream... try spinning around
a couple of times. Another technique is to look at the palms of your
dream hands. If you can do this then you should be able to direct the
dream to your designs.

If she's saying to you that she's not dead, then perhaps that's supposed
to mean that she's reborn. The time period between would fall into the
normal range, in my limited experience.



Good catch, but I think that the shortest time for being reborn is pretty close
to 20 years, and I don't think nearly that much time has passed.

Noooo, 8 to 10 would be typical in my experience. In certain
circumstances it can be very short. Research birth marks and
re-incarnation. There's no medical explanation for birth marks, they
don't exist in the womb but appear shortly after birth. Seems they
relate to very quick returns, shocked returns... representing fatal
wounds and marks.
There are a few recorded instances where child reborn was able to find
the family that had recently lost them. I'll try and find some
references for you tomorrow.
Ten years ago at my grandmothers funeral I had one of my "moments" and
told my youngest sister that she'd get Granny back, they were very
close. Two months ago she rang me in a bit of a flap telling that her
second daughter, aged 2.5 had just whispered in her ear... "I'm your
Grandmother". Believe it or not.
There goes my rational/scientific credibility... tw thinks I’m an atheist :)


BTW - at one time you'd indicated that you record your dreams on your computer.
Do you use any particular program for that? Mostly interested in if you just
use a word processor, or if you use some other type of application that allows
you to cross-reference dream symbols, etc.

I use a bodged up Access database. It's probably more flexible than a
dedicated package.
Good night!
-A


Woods

.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 22 Dec 2004 10:05:49 PM
In article <cqdf0g$3u6$10@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Absolute Zero <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

In article <cqdcbm$3u6$7@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Absolute Zero

<amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote:


Dani wrote:

8<

I appreciate you talking to me about this because no one believes me.


I do.

There are some tricks you can use with lucid dreaming.

If you feel that you're slipping out of the dream... try spinning around
a couple of times. Another technique is to look at the palms of your
dream hands. If you can do this then you should be able to direct the
dream to your designs.

If she's saying to you that she's not dead, then perhaps that's supposed
to mean that she's reborn. The time period between would fall into the
normal range, in my limited experience.



Good catch, but I think that the shortest time for being reborn is pretty

close

to 20 years, and I don't think nearly that much time has passed.


Noooo, 8 to 10 would be typical in my experience. In certain
circumstances it can be very short. Research birth marks and
re-incarnation. There's no medical explanation for birth marks, they
don't exist in the womb but appear shortly after birth. Seems they
relate to very quick returns, shocked returns... representing fatal
wounds and marks.

There are a few recorded instances where child reborn was able to find
the family that had recently lost them. I'll try and find some
references for you tomorrow.

Darn. I won't be here tomorrow. I'll be on the road to Mississippi.


Ten years ago at my grandmothers funeral I had one of my "moments" and
told my youngest sister that she'd get Granny back, they were very
close. Two months ago she rang me in a bit of a flap telling that her
second daughter, aged 2.5 had just whispered in her ear... "I'm your
Grandmother". Believe it or not.

Very cool. I hope your sister accepts that. My mom thinks that she was her
mother's mother (her own grandmother), who died when my grandmother was 8.


There goes my rational/scientific credibility... tw thinks I’m an atheist :)

Keep 'em on their toes, that's what I always say!



BTW - at one time you'd indicated that you record your dreams on your

computer.

Do you use any particular program for that? Mostly interested in if you just


use a word processor, or if you use some other type of application that

allows

you to cross-reference dream symbols, etc.


I use a bodged up Access database. It's probably more flexible than a
dedicated package.

"Bodged up"? I'm assuming that's customized, then. Ah, well, then I'll
probably work up someing in mysql. I'm trying to move away from crappy MS
products. (When swapping out a bad CDW is a "major system change" that requires
reactivation and insertion of MS Office disk drives, it's way past time to move
on to other software).


Good night!

Good night to you, as well! And a Merry Christmas if I can't get on before
then!
Woods
.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 23 Dec 2004 06:52:34 AM
Woodswun wrote:
8<


There are a few recorded instances where child reborn was able to find
the family that had recently lost them. I'll try and find some
references for you tomorrow.



Darn. I won't be here tomorrow. I'll be on the road to Mississippi.

I hope that went well...
I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf


Ten years ago at my grandmothers funeral I had one of my "moments" and
told my youngest sister that she'd get Granny back, they were very
close. Two months ago she rang me in a bit of a flap telling that her
second daughter, aged 2.5 had just whispered in her ear... "I'm your
Grandmother". Believe it or not.


Very cool. I hope your sister accepts that. My mom thinks that she was her
mother's mother (her own grandmother), who died when my grandmother was 8.

She does, she's a materialistic Buddhist.


There goes my rational/scientific credibility... tw thinks I’m an atheist :)


Keep 'em on their toes, that's what I always say!

BTW - at one time you'd indicated that you record your dreams on your


computer.

Do you use any particular program for that? Mostly interested in if you just


use a word processor, or if you use some other type of application that


allows

you to cross-reference dream symbols, etc.


I use a bodged up Access database. It's probably more flexible than a
dedicated package.


"Bodged up"?

Sorry, a brief lapse into anglo english.
Bodge \Bodge\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Bodged.] To botch; to mend clumsily;
to patch. [Obs. or Dial.]

I'm assuming that's customized, then. Ah, well, then I'll
probably work up someing in mysql. I'm trying to move away from crappy MS
products. (When swapping out a bad CDW is a "major system change" that requires
reactivation and insertion of MS Office disk drives, it's way past time to move
on to other software).

I've done a lot of work for Microsoft in Dublin so I'm contractually
obliged to be nice. Maybe I wrote that crappy code :)

Good night!



Good night to you, as well! And a Merry Christmas if I can't get on before
then!

And you, a merry Xmas to you and yours.
-A


Woods

.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 23 Dec 2004 07:27:06 AM
Absolute Zero wrote:
8<

I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf

I've had a chance to review... this whole site is very interesting
http://www.childpastlives.org/
-A
.
User: "Woods"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 25 Dec 2004 01:20:00 PM
Absolute Zero wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

8<

I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf



I've had a chance to review... this whole site is very interesting
http://www.childpastlives.org/

Yes, I'm reading that now. I'll have to share it with my daugher.
Thanks for posting that link!
Woods


-A

.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 25 Dec 2004 06:07:21 PM
Woods wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

8<

I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf


I've had a chance to review... this whole site is very interesting
http://www.childpastlives.org/


Yes, I'm reading that now. I'll have to share it with my daugher.

Thanks for posting that link!

Personally, having a had direct experiences, I don't need to be
convinced; however, if I were looking for evidence, I'd find that from
2, 3, 4, 5 year olds to be very persuasive.
-A
.



User: "Woods"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 25 Dec 2004 01:17:18 PM
Absolute Zero wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

8<


There are a few recorded instances where child reborn was able to
find the family that had recently lost them. I'll try and find some
references for you tomorrow.




Darn. I won't be here tomorrow. I'll be on the road to Mississippi.



I hope that went well...

22 hours driving time is too long, IMHO, but we got here safe and sound.
Not looking forward to going back up North ....


I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf

I'll have to have a look-see at those.



Ten years ago at my grandmothers funeral I had one of my "moments"
and told my youngest sister that she'd get Granny back, they were
very close. Two months ago she rang me in a bit of a flap telling
that her second daughter, aged 2.5 had just whispered in her ear...
"I'm your Grandmother". Believe it or not.



Very cool. I hope your sister accepts that. My mom thinks that she
was her mother's mother (her own grandmother), who died when my
grandmother was 8.



She does, she's a materialistic Buddhist.

Oh? Which tradition?



There goes my rational/scientific credibility... tw thinks I’m an
atheist :)



Keep 'em on their toes, that's what I always say!

BTW - at one time you'd indicated that you record your dreams on your



computer.

Do you use any particular program for that? Mostly interested in if
you just



use a word processor, or if you use some other type of application that



allows

you to cross-reference dream symbols, etc.



I use a bodged up Access database. It's probably more flexible than a
dedicated package.



"Bodged up"?



Sorry, a brief lapse into anglo english.

Bodge \Bodge\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Bodged.] To botch; to mend clumsily;
to patch. [Obs. or Dial.]

Heh. I doubt that you did it clumsily. "Customized" it is, then. I
was thinking of doing something with a mysql db, but I'm so sick of
computers at the end of the day, that I haven't been motivated. Guess I
should get off my dufus and start working on it (once I get back home).


I'm assuming that's customized, then. Ah, well, then I'll probably
work up someing in mysql. I'm trying to move away from crappy MS
products. (When swapping out a bad CDW is a "major system change"
that requires reactivation and insertion of MS Office disk drives,
it's way past time to move on to other software).



I've done a lot of work for Microsoft in Dublin so I'm contractually
obliged to be nice. Maybe I wrote that crappy code :)

This had to have come from Redmond. I don't think anyone in Dublin
would be quite so nasty (well, unless ordered to do so, of course -
which means it wouldn't be your fault). ;-)


Good night!




Good night to you, as well! And a Merry Christmas if I can't get on
before then!



And you, a merry Xmas to you and yours.

It's been a very merry Christmas. We're together, and that's what
counts! :-)
Woods
(Not sure this will send, I've "bodged" a connection to my daughter and
son-in-law's provider ...)
.
User: "Absolute Zero"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 25 Dec 2004 05:52:20 PM
Woods wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

8<


There are a few recorded instances where child reborn was able to
find the family that had recently lost them. I'll try and find some
references for you tomorrow.


Darn. I won't be here tomorrow. I'll be on the road to Mississippi.


I hope that went well...


22 hours driving time is too long, IMHO, but we got here safe and sound.
Not looking forward to going back up North ....

It usually seems quicker coming back, for me.

I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf


I'll have to have a look-see at those.

I think you'll find them interesting.

Ten years ago at my grandmothers funeral I had one of my "moments"
and told my youngest sister that she'd get Granny back, they were
very close. Two months ago she rang me in a bit of a flap telling
that her second daughter, aged 2.5 had just whispered in her ear...
"I'm your Grandmother". Believe it or not.


Very cool. I hope your sister accepts that. My mom thinks that she
was her mother's mother (her own grandmother), who died when my
grandmother was 8.


She does, she's a materialistic Buddhist.


Oh? Which tradition?

Nichiren. She claims they got a bad rap in the 80's because it was a
particularly mammon decade. But she started by chanting for a Merc and
got one :)
My impression would be that with Zen, for example, the aim is to
defeat/trip-up the earthly materialistic attachments, whilst Nichiren
works with them. I'm no expert on Buddhism, just a minor fan of the
Buddha. I suspect that Jesus spent at least some of the missing years in
Northern India (ala Nicholas Notovich, St Isa as they know him there)
imbibing that wisdom. Faint traces of which remain (accidentally)
unexpurgated in the Bible...
Karma = reap what you sow.
Reincarnation = that absolute mess of misunderstanding known as the
resurrection. John was Elijah etc.

There goes my rational/scientific credibility... tw thinks I’m an
atheist :)


Keep 'em on their toes, that's what I always say!

BTW - at one time you'd indicated that you record your dreams on your
computer.
Do you use any particular program for that? Mostly interested in
if you just use a word processor, or if you use some other type of
application that allows you to cross-reference dream symbols, etc.


I use a bodged up Access database. It's probably more flexible than
a dedicated package.


"Bodged up"?


Sorry, a brief lapse into anglo english.

Bodge \Bodge\, v. t. [imp. & p. p. Bodged.] To botch; to mend
clumsily; to patch. [Obs. or Dial.]


Heh. I doubt that you did it clumsily. "Customized" it is, then. I
was thinking of doing something with a mysql db, but I'm so sick of
computers at the end of the day, that I haven't been motivated. Guess I
should get off my dufus and start working on it (once I get back home).

Being fundamentally logical I love coding computers... but work can
drain all my enthusiasm for homework.

I'm assuming that's customized, then. Ah, well, then I'll probably
work up someing in mysql. I'm trying to move away from crappy MS
products. (When swapping out a bad CDW is a "major system change"
that requires reactivation and insertion of MS Office disk drives,
it's way past time to move on to other software).


I've done a lot of work for Microsoft in Dublin so I'm contractually
obliged to be nice. Maybe I wrote that crappy code :)


This had to have come from Redmond. I don't think anyone in Dublin
would be quite so nasty (well, unless ordered to do so, of course -
which means it wouldn't be your fault). ;-)

I jest. Dublin does software manufacturing (now outsourced),
localisation and sales. All the coding I've done for MS has been in
those areas.

Good night!


Good night to you, as well! And a Merry Christmas if I can't get on
before then!


And you, a merry Xmas to you and yours.


It's been a very merry Christmas. We're together, and that's what
counts! :-)

Yah, my sister's here with the gremlins now... I can hear the distant
burble of chanting as I type <== do they ever stop?


Woods

(Not sure this will send, I've "bodged" a connection to my daughter
and son-in-law's provider ...)

Got it.
23:51 - it's almost over, phew!
-A
.
User: "Woods"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 25 Dec 2004 08:59:39 PM
Absolute Zero wrote:

Woods wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:

Woodswun wrote:

8<


There are a few recorded instances where child reborn was able to
find the family that had recently lost them. I'll try and find some
references for you tomorrow.


Darn. I won't be here tomorrow. I'll be on the road to Mississippi.


I hope that went well...


22 hours driving time is too long, IMHO, but we got here safe and sound.
Not looking forward to going back up North ....


It usually seems quicker coming back, for me.

I haven't checked these, they may even contradict me <shrug>
http://www.childpastlives.org/birthmrk.htm
http://www.scientificexploration.org/jse/articles/pdf/12.2_pasricha.pdf


I'll have to have a look-see at those.


I think you'll find them interesting.

Ten years ago at my grandmothers funeral I had one of my "moments"
and told my youngest sister that she'd get Granny back, they were
very close. Two months ago she rang me in a bit of a flap telling
that her second daughter, aged 2.5 had just whispered in her ear...
"I'm your Grandmother". Believe it or not.


Very cool. I hope your sister accepts that. My mom thinks that she
was her mother's mother (her own grandmother), who died when my
grandmother was 8.


She does, she's a materialistic Buddhist.


Oh? Which tradition?


Nichiren. She claims they got a bad rap in the 80's because it was a
particularly mammon decade. But she started by chanting for a Merc and
got one :)

Not really familiar with that tradition. A quick google indicates that
it was formed in Japan, which would be quite interesting.


My impression would be that with Zen, for example, the aim is to
defeat/trip-up the earthly materialistic attachments, whilst Nichiren
works with them. I'm no expert on Buddhism, just a minor fan of the
Buddha. I suspect that Jesus spent at least some of the missing years in
Northern India (ala Nicholas Notovich, St Isa as they know him there)
imbibing that wisdom. Faint traces of which remain (accidentally)
unexpurgated in the Bible...

Agreed, with both. Jesus definitely brought in Buddhist philosophies
into Judaism with His teachings.


Karma = reap what you sow.
Reincarnation = that absolute mess of misunderstanding known as the
resurrection. John was Elijah etc.

You must admit, it is rather amusing to see those who insist there is
only the one life given to each in order to attain
enlightenment/salvation dance around biblical verses which clearly
indicate that resurrection meant reincarnation to Jesus and His disciples.
Woods
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: WHAT IS "LUCID DREAMING" ?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!???!?!??!?!??!?!??! 26 Dec 2004 05:11:17 AM

Absolute Zero wrote:

wrote:

I suspect that Jesus spent at least some >of the missing years in Northern

India
You suspect? WTF does that mean? I suspect you're alien from Uranus.
Tony
.















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