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Yes but the report also ( Ihope it was that one) also said
they

had

precious little on Iran and North Korea, oh well all the
more

reason

to go and look see.
They must have have something to hide.
LB

Yes... unlike Iraq, Iran does have an Islamic fundamentalist
government and is making obvious and verifiable progress
toward nuclear bombs.

Who's verifying Iran's nuclear progress towards the bomb? Not
the inspectors!!
Stat.

No, there's no inspectors in Iran, just 20,000 Russian
scientists and probably as many covert western operatives
listening to the chatter... also you've got dozens of
remote sensing satellites watching the country, and
hundreds of nuclear and intelligence experts analyzing
the information.

You've never heard of the extensive on-going inspections of IAEA
into Iran's nuclear program? The head of IAWA almost lost his
job because they couldn't find any shred of evidence of bomb
building activities.

I have heard of a large underground facility that could only
be used to refine Uranium (to bomb-making grade, far more than
needed for energy production).

I've heard that the 9-11 attacks were fully planned, organised,
and carried-out by the CIA and the Pentagone at the request of the

Israelis.

And this has 'what' to do with the Iranian nuclear facilities ?

It's all propoganda my friend.

The IAEA inspectors were saying the Iranians don't need bomb-grade
uranium for their nuclear power plant... but the Iranians want
the bomb-grade uranium anyway (and you're asking why we're
spying on the Iranians).

They're saying they don't want to be limited in their technological
capacities on the *assumption* that they will use that technology to
make atomic bombs.

Those underground enrichment facilities have capacity many
times larger than necessary to provide energy fuel. No *assumption*
is needed. They're planning a whole lot more than energy production.
The mullahs are thumbing their nose at the western powers.

So says Moose, but IAEA disagrees and *capacity* to do something
doesn't automatically mean you would do it. (I am quite sure you have
the capacity to pick up a shot gun and shoot a few of your neighbors.
But will you do it?

If I were down-trodden, never had much real power, was a religious
zealot, and felt the world needed to be converted to my belief, then
suddenly had power to kill with impunity, I would be more likely to
use that shotgun than not.

Maybe... Still an assumption. But Iran's behavior in the International
Community in past 20 years has nothing to do with what you describe
here. They haven't invaded any countries, haven't sent spies to other
countries, have been paying their debts, are running a good economy,
have signed and respected most International treaties, are a member of
the UN and have no outstanding resolutions against them concerning other
countries. Compare their record with any other country in the region, or
if you like just compare it to Israel, and it is not so hard to see who
the real lunetic is. The oppression of Iranian people at the hands of
the Mullahs is a different subject. The only people who should fear
Mullah's nukes are actually Iranians, and they are backing the Mullah's
on this one, because this question goes beyond politics. It's a question
of national independence, even long term survival. Iranians didn't have
a revolution to have goons tells them what they can or cannot do in
their own country.

Tell me Stat, how long as Mohammad Khatami been in power ?

Will be 8 years soon. There are presidential elections in Iran this
Summer. And hopefully the next one (Khatami can't run again) will be
more moderate that him, as he was more moderate than the last one, who
was more moderate than the one before. Moose of course will say that it
was because of all the pressure he exerted on Iran that Iran is becoming
more moderate, but we don't give a *****, as long as he stops bothering
us.

Should we disallow you to go out of your house because
you may decide to go to a gun shop, pick up a gun and start shooting
it at your neighbors?

Many countries around the world have these technologies, but
are not making bombs. Iranians are saying us too. Please welcome us
to

the

nuclear club, we want to play with the other boys. Most of the boys
don't mind, but there is Moose who says, No Iranians Allowed.
Iranians say why? Moose says because you are fundamentalist Muslims
bent on destroying our Liberty and Freedom, and therefore we will
deprive you of your freedom to make sure you don't take away ours.

Actually Moose doesn't like the instability of totalitarian
regimes in general, and especially dislikes those controlled
by religious extremists, and allowing them nuclear capability
invites disaster.

Of course, Moose thinks he has patented running totalitarian regimes
controlled by religious extremists.

Which world city will be the first to feel

the nuclear fire of Allah ?

You probably know that the only cities that have felt the nuclear fire
are in Japan.

Yes, the first country ever to develop the nuclear weapon was
the US, and we've restrained ourselves from using them for 60
years.

Iranians have no reason to attack anybody with or without nukes.

Iran wants 'The Bomb'. Don't ever try to deny that.
The only thing bombs are good for is to blow things up and
as deterrence. Playing deterrence with the US would be
pointless since we've got 1000 times more nuclear weapons
than Iran will ever have. So who is Iran trying to deter ?

Iran doesn't need nukes to deter the US. They have enough fire power to
deactivate most oil production in the region for a good 5-10 years.

This
basically means the end of the world as we know it and guess who will be
the biggest losers in that game? Those who have to most to win from the
actual situation. Let's all keep our fingers crossed and hope that the
head lunatic sitting in Washington doesn't get any new inspirations.
Iran is not Iraq and Afghanistan...

Stat.

Stat.

Stat

As
for the remote sensing devices, and intelligence experts, I
assure

you

they are the same devices and experts who had "sensed" WMD in
Iraq.

Are you sure they're the same ones ?

Positive. If it looks like a duck, walks like duck, quacks like a
duck,

it

must be a duck.

Could be a canadian goose (walks like a duck, quacks like a duck)

Stat.

Stat.

North Korea is a slightly different

story but has its own itchy trigger finger and sometimes
irrational leadership. These two countries are a problem
but I'm sure we don't see everything our intel services see.