They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
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30 Aug 2004 11:54:44 PM |
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Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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31 Aug 2004 01:16:28 AM |
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On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
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| User: "Jane" |
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31 Aug 2004 10:31:12 PM |
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"Harry Chrishna" <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:ks58j0l9i4ohnslubpehef5fkkobl2jn06@4ax.com...
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
How interesting that you just happened to pop into APN on your short break
from the war zone!
Jane
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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01 Sep 2004 12:05:56 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:31:12 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Harry Chrishna" <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:ks58j0l9i4ohnslubpehef5fkkobl2jn06@4ax.com...
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
How interesting that you just happened to pop into APN on your short break
from the war zone!
Why, were you waiting for me to pop in some other time?
Jane
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| User: "Cuan" |
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01 Sep 2004 03:14:23 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 22:05:56 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:31:12 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Harry Chrishna" <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:ks58j0l9i4ohnslubpehef5fkkobl2jn06@4ax.com...
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
How interesting that you just happened to pop into APN on your short break
from the war zone!
Why, were you waiting for me to pop in some other time?
Never mind Jane, she's sceptical about everything she hears...except
when it comes from the US gov't.
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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31 Aug 2004 02:54:12 PM |
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Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Whatever you do, don't lose your head, and stay close to
the military and police. I wouldn't want to be in Iraq right
now as a civilian.
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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31 Aug 2004 03:43:01 PM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:54:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Whatever you do, don't lose your head, and stay close to
the military and police. I wouldn't want to be in Iraq right
now as a civilian.
Thanks, appreciate your thoughts. My feet will be on Iraqi
soil again within a week. First month I was there, 17 of my
friends were killed in major ambush that never made the
press.
Places where I live are constantly getting rocketed
and mortared.
I've been shot at, dodged IED's and seen too many
people die.
No one over there believes the lies coming from the
US Oligarchy.
Iraq is drendched in blood, death and the bad karma
is so thick it hangs like a fog.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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31 Aug 2004 10:43:16 PM |
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Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<gco9j0lgfg2v4t13ik1oi24dh91hn7e8e4@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:54:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Whatever you do, don't lose your head, and stay close to
the military and police. I wouldn't want to be in Iraq right
now as a civilian.
Thanks, appreciate your thoughts. My feet will be on Iraqi
soil again within a week. First month I was there, 17 of my
friends were killed in major ambush that never made the
press.
What month was that? I remember an incident like that that actually
was reported in the press.
Places where I live are constantly getting rocketed
and mortared.
I've been shot at, dodged IED's and seen too many
people die.
No one over there believes the lies coming from the
US Oligarchy.
If you don't support the "US Oligarchy," why are you going over there?
Doesn't the fact you're going over there indicate your support in
rebuilding a free Iraq?
Iraq is drendched in blood, death and the bad karma
is so thick it hangs like a fog.
Sounds like Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Thanks for your efforts to
rebuild Iraq under its newfound freedom. Stay safe.
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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01 Sep 2004 12:04:57 AM |
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On 31 Aug 2004 20:43:16 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<gco9j0lgfg2v4t13ik1oi24dh91hn7e8e4@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:54:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Whatever you do, don't lose your head, and stay close to
the military and police. I wouldn't want to be in Iraq right
now as a civilian.
Thanks, appreciate your thoughts. My feet will be on Iraqi
soil again within a week. First month I was there, 17 of my
friends were killed in major ambush that never made the
press.
What month was that? I remember an incident like that that actually
was reported in the press.
May - Anbar Province, on the road from Al Asad to Ar Ramadi. near the
big intersectoin
Places where I live are constantly getting rocketed
and mortared.
I've been shot at, dodged IED's and seen too many
people die.
No one over there believes the lies coming from the
US Oligarchy.
If you don't support the "US Oligarchy," why are you going over there?
Doesn't the fact you're going over there indicate your support in
rebuilding a free Iraq?
Same reason I went to Vietnam in 1971 - to help end it as quickly as
possible
Iraq is drendched in blood, death and the bad karma
is so thick it hangs like a fog.
Sounds like Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Thanks for your efforts to
rebuild Iraq under its newfound freedom. Stay safe.
The US is only spending $500 billion to rebuild what they destroyed in
the first place - to put Iraq back to where it was in 1990, nothing
more.
Ne net gain.
It didn't need to take $500 billion to destroy one man,
who was put into power by a CIA coup in 1963, in the first place.
Same man the US encouraged to invade Kuwait.
Same man the US pressured to attack Iran in 1979.
Same man who knows to much about the Bush family,
about Cheney, about Rumsfeld, about Powell
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| User: "Jane" |
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01 Sep 2004 06:45:37 AM |
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"Harry Chrishna" <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:jolaj0t0v6b91n185qhitmhm1m4nvdrloo@4ax.com...
On 31 Aug 2004 20:43:16 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<gco9j0lgfg2v4t13ik1oi24dh91hn7e8e4@4ax.com>...
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:54:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven
Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of
lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Whatever you do, don't lose your head, and stay close to
the military and police. I wouldn't want to be in Iraq right
now as a civilian.
Thanks, appreciate your thoughts. My feet will be on Iraqi
soil again within a week. First month I was there, 17 of my
friends were killed in major ambush that never made the
press.
What month was that? I remember an incident like that that actually
was reported in the press.
May - Anbar Province, on the road from Al Asad to Ar Ramadi. near the
big intersectoin
Places where I live are constantly getting rocketed
and mortared.
I've been shot at, dodged IED's and seen too many
people die.
No one over there believes the lies coming from the
US Oligarchy.
If you don't support the "US Oligarchy," why are you going over there?
Doesn't the fact you're going over there indicate your support in
rebuilding a free Iraq?
Same reason I went to Vietnam in 1971 - to help end it as quickly as
possible
So what exactly do you do there that could help end it? Just curious.
Jane
Iraq is drendched in blood, death and the bad karma
is so thick it hangs like a fog.
Sounds like Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Thanks for your efforts to
rebuild Iraq under its newfound freedom. Stay safe.
The US is only spending $500 billion to rebuild what they destroyed in
the first place - to put Iraq back to where it was in 1990, nothing
more.
Ne net gain.
It didn't need to take $500 billion to destroy one man,
who was put into power by a CIA coup in 1963, in the first place.
Same man the US encouraged to invade Kuwait.
Same man the US pressured to attack Iran in 1979.
Same man who knows to much about the Bush family,
about Cheney, about Rumsfeld, about Powell
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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02 Sep 2004 05:20:39 PM |
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Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
No one over there believes the lies coming from the
US Oligarchy.
If you don't support the "US Oligarchy," why are you going over there?
Doesn't the fact you're going over there indicate your support in
rebuilding a free Iraq?
Same reason I went to Vietnam in 1971 - to help end it as quickly as
possible
Iraq is drendched in blood, death and the bad karma
is so thick it hangs like a fog.
Sounds like Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Thanks for your efforts to
rebuild Iraq under its newfound freedom. Stay safe.
The US is only spending $500 billion to rebuild what they destroyed in
the first place - to put Iraq back to where it was in 1990, nothing
more.
Ne net gain.
It didn't need to take $500 billion to destroy one man,
who was put into power by a CIA coup in 1963, in the first place.
Same man the US encouraged to invade Kuwait.
Same man the US pressured to attack Iran in 1979.
He was pretty well entrenched with a network of fear in place...
not sure if anything other than invasion could've taken him out.
This of course says nothing about the motives, legitimacy,
or timeliness of the decision for war
Same man who knows to much about the Bush family,
about Cheney, about Rumsfeld, about Powell
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| User: "Woodswun" |
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31 Aug 2004 06:18:39 PM |
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In article <gco9j0lgfg2v4t13ik1oi24dh91hn7e8e4@4ax.com>, Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:54:12 GMT, "R. Foreman"
<eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> Spat the Words
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Whatever you do, don't lose your head, and stay close to
the military and police. I wouldn't want to be in Iraq right
now as a civilian.
Thanks, appreciate your thoughts. My feet will be on Iraqi
soil again within a week. First month I was there, 17 of my
friends were killed in major ambush that never made the
press.
Oy! 0_0
Places where I live are constantly getting rocketed
and mortared.
I've been shot at, dodged IED's and seen too many
people die.
No one over there believes the lies coming from the
US Oligarchy.
Iraq is drendched in blood, death and the bad karma
is so thick it hangs like a fog.
Mind if I put you on my prayer group's prayer list? I can't think of anything
else I can really do to help. We've already got the Iraq situation on there.
Woods
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| User: "Cuan" |
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31 Aug 2004 10:24:42 AM |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
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| User: "Jane" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
31 Aug 2004 10:28:44 PM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:it59j0p504fbh26vtqjmpsi1mtdomfurbu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
Your friend tw disparaged me for quoting something that I had "heard"...do
you think he would find this guy's hearsay more valid than mine?
Jane
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| User: "Cuan" |
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01 Sep 2004 03:08:59 AM |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:28:44 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:it59j0p504fbh26vtqjmpsi1mtdomfurbu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
Your friend tw disparaged me for quoting something that I had "heard"...do
you think he would find this guy's hearsay more valid than mine?
Dunno. Were you living and working in any military bases in Iraq?
I suppose there is such things as "first-hand" sources and a "hearsay"
sources. I'm not familiar with what it was that you heard, so I can't
comment on its validity, Jane. Ask Tom what he thinks.
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| User: "Jane" |
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01 Sep 2004 06:42:43 AM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:7d0bj0d6v58jq22hb9j7n7e4qlbbpfftom@4ax.com...
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:28:44 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:it59j0p504fbh26vtqjmpsi1mtdomfurbu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of
lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
Your friend tw disparaged me for quoting something that I had
"heard"...do
you think he would find this guy's hearsay more valid than mine?
Dunno. Were you living and working in any military bases in Iraq?
Actually, I'm not sure this guy was, either...just a hunch.
I suppose there is such things as "first-hand" sources and a "hearsay"
sources. I'm not familiar with what it was that you heard, so I can't
comment on its validity, Jane. Ask Tom what he thinks.
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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01 Sep 2004 12:00:16 PM |
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:08:59 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:28:44 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:it59j0p504fbh26vtqjmpsi1mtdomfurbu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
Your friend tw disparaged me for quoting something that I had "heard"...do
you think he would find this guy's hearsay more valid than mine?
Dunno. Were you living and working in any military bases in Iraq?
I heard from enlisted, officers at three bases I've been living at in
Iraq. Their words, my ears. Does that mean it's "hearsay" ?
I suppose there is such things as "first-hand" sources and a "hearsay"
sources. I'm not familiar with what it was that you heard, so I can't
comment on its validity, Jane. Ask Tom what he thinks.
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| User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
02 Sep 2004 10:21:59 PM |
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Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<7vvbj0p5hfvpih8l86n97clgsonppgosvh@4ax.com>...
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:08:59 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:28:44 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:it59j0p504fbh26vtqjmpsi1mtdomfurbu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
Your friend tw disparaged me for quoting something that I had "heard"...do
you think he would find this guy's hearsay more valid than mine?
Dunno. Were you living and working in any military bases in Iraq?
I heard from enlisted, officers at three bases I've been living at in
Iraq. Their words, my ears. Does that mean it's "hearsay" ?
In case of an event you must be there in person. As far as deals and
worded agreements are concerned: 'Their words, my ears' suffices in a
court of law.
Note that it is first hand knowledge. Hearsay of deals and ageements
are if one soldier told you what another solider told him. Thus you
were not a witness first hand to what the first solder said. Then you
tried to pass it on to a judge and jury as fact.
PS: You do not need the "," in front of officers - just leave it
empty, otherwise the sentence is cumbersome to read. You did not need
it and I actually think it is illegal because an 'officer' is the main
noun in the prepositional phrase: ' from.' It would be OK if it were a
adjective.
I suppose there is such things as "first-hand" sources
A bit off topic, But here is a first source: At least according to
Homer. And not Homer Simpson ;)
Apelles, who was greatly honoured and cherished for his genius by
Alexander the great and who, as we see in Lucian, brilliantly
investigated the nature of slander and false favour.
The Iliad, Book XVIII. & Giorgio Vasari 'The Lives of the Artists'
Vol. 1 [ Spellings of honoured and favour are spelled correctly, as
in the book. 16th Cent.]
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| User: "Cuan" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
02 Sep 2004 06:29:08 AM |
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On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:00:16 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 10:08:59 +0200, Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:28:44 -0400, "Jane" <pushlinque@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:it59j0p504fbh26vtqjmpsi1mtdomfurbu@4ax.com...
On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 23:16:28 -0700, Harry Chrishna <Harry
Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
It's what I hear from soldiers every day, at least in the military
bases I've been living and working at in Iraq.
Nothing like "from the horse's mouth" as a true, indisputable source,
I would say. But you're going to have to quote it from a NeoCon news
source before Steven will even bother to believe it...even then it
isn't so certain.
Your friend tw disparaged me for quoting something that I had "heard"...do
you think he would find this guy's hearsay more valid than mine?
Dunno. Were you living and working in any military bases in Iraq?
I heard from enlisted, officers at three bases I've been living at in
Iraq. Their words, my ears. Does that mean it's "hearsay" ?
Ask Jane - she's the one with the "hunch".
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| User: "Cuan" |
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31 Aug 2004 07:51:42 AM |
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On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
When the NeoCons decry "leftist propaganda" sources, the Liberals
decry the "rightist propaganda" sources - so what sources do you want?
Or should I perhaps ask what sources you would like? Or what sources
do you think you're going to get?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
31 Aug 2004 10:46:01 PM |
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Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<lns8j01v9v31jhrh2rs1c3et0qmoqbp1ap@4ax.com>...
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
When the NeoCons decry "leftist propaganda" sources, the Liberals
decry the "rightist propaganda" sources - so what sources do you want?
Or should I perhaps ask what sources you would like? Or what sources
do you think you're going to get?
I'd settle for the New York Times or Washington Post. I don't think
those newspapers would hold back if there was a crisis in morale among
US troops in Iraq. Of course there will be a percentage of troops that
are unhappy with that duty. That does not signify a large scale crisis
in troop morale. We'd hear about it from those two newspapers if that
was the case.
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| User: "R. Foreman" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
02 Sep 2004 05:24:06 PM |
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(Steven Douglas) Spat the Words
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:<lns8j01v9v31jhrh2rs1c3et0qmoqbp1ap@4ax.com>...
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message
news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of
lies, and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
When the NeoCons decry "leftist propaganda" sources, the Liberals
decry the "rightist propaganda" sources - so what sources do you want?
Or should I perhaps ask what sources you would like? Or what sources
do you think you're going to get?
I'd settle for the New York Times or Washington Post. I don't think
those newspapers would hold back if there was a crisis in morale among
US troops in Iraq. Of course there will be a percentage of troops that
are unhappy with that duty. That does not signify a large scale crisis
in troop morale. We'd hear about it from those two newspapers if that
was the case.
There is definitely a small percentage of our soldiers who
go crazy from the fighting. Every time you hear of a 'death
from non-combat gun shot wound' it's probably a suicide.
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
01 Sep 2004 12:06:29 AM |
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On 31 Aug 2004 20:46:01 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Cuan <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message news:<lns8j01v9v31jhrh2rs1c3et0qmoqbp1ap@4ax.com>...
On 30 Aug 2004 21:54:44 -0700, (Steven Douglas)
wrote:
Harry Chrishna <Harry Crishna@tarrgon.net> wrote in message news:<skf5j0demidncj1tec4s8h6haubldhc4ka@4ax.com>...
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
Did you make that up? Or do you have a source to back you up?
Apparently, from what I've been reading here lately, no sources are
required to make up stupid accusations.
When the NeoCons decry "leftist propaganda" sources, the Liberals
decry the "rightist propaganda" sources - so what sources do you want?
Or should I perhaps ask what sources you would like? Or what sources
do you think you're going to get?
I'd settle for the New York Times or Washington Post. I don't think
those newspapers would hold back if there was a crisis in morale among
US troops in Iraq. Of course there will be a percentage of troops that
are unhappy with that duty. That does not signify a large scale crisis
in troop morale. We'd hear about it from those two newspapers if that
was the case.
They are reporting it.
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
30 Aug 2004 11:25:09 AM |
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Harry Chrishna a écrit:
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
This is a lie of course. The overwhelmingly support the prez.
There is always a few disgruntled idiots amidst the hundreds of
thousands, that's for sure.
Go to the airport, loser.
J.
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| User: "Harry Chrishna Harry" |
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| Title: Re: What the troops are saying in Iraq? |
30 Aug 2004 12:15:10 PM |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 16:25:09 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Harry Chrishna a écrit:
They're saying they want to go home, and that Bush and his
Administration got them into Iraq on the pretext of a series of lies,
and that yes, Sadam is an evil man, and the Insurection is the
result of an invasion of a sovereign country.
This is a lie of course. The overwhelmingly support the prez.
There is always a few disgruntled idiots amidst the hundreds of
thousands, that's for sure.
Go to the airport, loser.
Which one? BIAP, Al Asad, TQ, Mosul, or Balad
J.
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