What Would Zarqawi Be Doing if He Weren't in Iraq?
By Dennis Prager
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 12, 2004
The most frequently offered argument of Sen. John Kerry and other antiwar
Democrats to support their charge that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake is
that Iraq has become a den of terrorists.
This claim is true. But it completely undermines the Democrats' charge that
invading Iraq was a mistake.
They say this: There are far more terrorists in Iraq since the invasion, and,
therefore, the invasion was a mistake.
Yet, in order to believe that the greater number of terrorists in Iraq means
the invasion was a mistake, you have to believe one or both of the following --
that were it not for the invasion, the terrorists who are in Iraq would have
been engaged in some peaceful work in some other country, or that they are
newly minted terrorists who were perhaps selling shoes prior to the war in
Iraq.
Neither scenario makes sense.
Take the leading terrorist -- the Jordanian butcher of human beings, Abu Musab
al-Zarqawi. Everyone acknowledges he was a terrorist before the war in Iraq. In
the 1990s, he spent seven years in a Jordanian prison for plotting to overthrow
the government and establish an Islamic state. He then went to Germany, where
he set up a terrorist cell.
So here's the question that apparently goes unasked of all the Democrats who
are sure it is President Bush who lacks intelligence: What would Zarqawi be
doing now if he were not slaughtering people in Iraq? Selling used cars in
Amman? Playing cello in the Berlin Philharmonic?
The president has said from the beginning that a major reason for invading Iraq
was to bring the war to the terrorists, and that if we don't fight them on
their soil, we will have to fight them on ours. Therefore, unless one posits
that Zarqawi and other Arab sadists would be doing nice things elsewhere, their
presence in Iraq seems to vindicate the president entirely -- that they would
be busy in the West if they were not kept busy defending their very lives in
Iraq.
It is sad that this obvious point is not constantly repeated when Democrats
make what they believe is some unassailable point about the influx of
terrorists into Iraq.
Which raises a variation on this theme: Why are so many Arab and other Muslim
terrorists in Iraq? The point that Iraq has become a terrorist haven is made so
often by critics of the war in Iraq that these critics must think it is a
self-evident argument against the war.
But this point is as weak as the first. The fact that many terrorists have
flocked to Iraq argues what, exactly?
No one ever quite says. Because the only argument against the war suggested by
this fact is that all the terrorists flocking into Iraq are new recruits --
Arabs and Iranians who left their accounting firms to blow up themselves and
Iraqi children because America invaded Iraq and deposed Saddam Hussein.
There is no evidence offered to prove that contention, however. And it defies
common sense. As Charles Krauthammer pointed out after we invaded Afghanistan,
unlike before the invasion, there were no more Osama t-shirts being sold in
Pakistan; people love winners, and Osama was finally losing. Recruits to Muslim
terror are made by Muslims who preach evil in God's name and by terrorist
victories, not by America fighting back.
Just as in the first case, the claim is true, but it undermines the charge.
The claim that there are more, indeed many, terrorists in Iraq now is true. But
the terrorists are there because they know that if America prevails in
establishing a relatively free country where there once stood an America-hating
terrorist-supporting Arab regime, they are ultimately doomed. Liberals love to
find out the root causes of sociopathological behaviors. Well, one root cause
of Islamic terror is the hermetically sealed Arab-Muslim world. Open that up to
even some freedom, and the cesspool that produces the terrorist monsters begins
to dry up.
That is why so many terrorists have moved to Iraq. They agree with President
Bush -- the War on Terror is taking place in Iraq.
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08 Jan 2005 03:23:29 PM |
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(TonyZ2001) Spat the Words
What Would Zarqawi Be Doing if He Weren't in Iraq?
He's probably not in Iraq. He's probably in your back yard about
to blow up your house. Bush dropped the war against the terrorists,
and now they're plotting even greater attacks against US civilians.
Thanks George Bush.
By Dennis Prager
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 12, 2004
The most frequently offered argument of Sen. John Kerry and other
antiwar Democrats to support their charge that the invasion of Iraq was
a mistake is that Iraq has become a den of terrorists.
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If you dodo in a place enough somebody will try to build an outhouse over it.
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Eating fine dinners in NYC!
Who the ***** is he anyway?
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
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Eating fine dinners in NYC!
Who the ***** is he anyway?
He is the new scarecrow.
Stat.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
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11 Jan 2005 10:08:42 AM |
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"MonsieurStat" >monsieurstat@gmail.com
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"TaDa Pope" <tadapope@aol.comWOMP> wrote in message
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Eating fine dinners in NYC!
Who the ***** is he anyway?
He is the new scarecrow.
Stat.
Wrong.
He is the main Al Qeada terrorist in Iraq.
Tony
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"TaDa Pope" <tadapope@aol.comWOMP> wrote in message
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Eating fine dinners in NYC!
Who the ***** is he anyway?
He is the new scarecrow.
Stat.
Wrong.
He is the main Al Qeada terrorist in Iraq.
That's what I said. He's the new (and "MAIN", for your sake) scarecrow.
Stat.
Tony
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09 Jan 2005 04:41:16 PM |
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He would have run against Bush he must be a Democrat with his Liberal
views and behaviour, and probably a good christian to boot look at the
souls he sent to heaven!
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08 Jan 2005 01:25:51 PM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
What Would Zarqawi Be Doing if He Weren't in Iraq?
By Dennis Prager
FrontPageMagazine.com | October 12, 2004
The most frequently offered argument of Sen. John Kerry and other
antiwar
Democrats to support their charge that the invasion of Iraq was a
mistake is
that Iraq has become a den of terrorists.
This claim is true. But it completely undermines the Democrats'
charge that
invading Iraq was a mistake.
They say this: There are far more terrorists in Iraq since the
invasion, and,
therefore, the invasion was a mistake.
Yet, in order to believe that the greater number of terrorists in
Iraq means
the invasion was a mistake, you have to believe one or both of the
following --
that were it not for the invasion, the terrorists who are in Iraq
would have
been engaged in some peaceful work in some other country, or that
they are
newly minted terrorists who were perhaps selling shoes prior to the
war in
Iraq.
Neither scenario makes sense.
Take the leading terrorist -- the Jordanian butcher of human beings,
Abu Musab
al-Zarqawi. Everyone acknowledges he was a terrorist before the war
in Iraq. In
the 1990s, he spent seven years in a Jordanian prison for plotting to
overthrow
the government and establish an Islamic state. He then went to
Germany, where
he set up a terrorist cell.
So here's the question that apparently goes unasked of all the
Democrats who
are sure it is President Bush who lacks intelligence: What would
Zarqawi be
doing now if he were not slaughtering people in Iraq?
And a question back at the idiot who tried to be a smart arse by
writing this thripe:
What would Zarqawi be doing now if the YANKS weren't slaughtering
people in Iraq?
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
WH
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08 Jan 2005 07:45:30 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2005 11:25:51 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
WH
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09 Jan 2005 01:16:02 AM |
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Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
You know, you like Chris and his Terrorist buddies so much, I hope one of those
Al Qeada in south Boston claims you as a victim.
That would be so ironic.
Tony
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09 Jan 2005 01:47:37 AM |
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On 09 Jan 2005 07:16:02 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
You know,
Yes.. I know *a lot* more than you, braindead.
(you're not the only one who can cut posts in *mid-sentence*!!)
HA HA! How does it feel, idiot?
Dani
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09 Jan 2005 01:55:35 AM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 02:47:37 -0500, Dani <> wrote:
On 09 Jan 2005 07:16:02 GMT, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
You know,
Yes.. I know *a lot* more than you, braindead.
(you're not the only one who can cut posts in *mid-sentence*!!)
HA HA! How does it feel, idiot?
Nah-night, faceache.. I'll respond to the good people who left me
posts tomorrow. You're a waste of skin; and an utter joke on this
group.. only good for an ***** kickin' in my free time (and I'm sure
that's how just about everyone else feels about you here).
Daniella
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09 Jan 2005 06:35:47 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
You know, you like Chris and his Terrorist buddies so much, I hope
one of those
Al Qeada in south Boston claims you as a victim.
That would be so ironic.
Tony
And here you go again pantyboy, hoping that a good American gets hurt
or killed because she disagrees with your filth. What a democrat you
are. Along with hoping that your soldiers get attacked so as you can
say "I told you so" on a usenet newsgroup. What a great support you are
for your country!
Scumbag!
WH
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09 Jan 2005 06:42:41 AM |
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"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
You know, you like Chris and his Terrorist buddies so much, I hope
one of those
Al Qeada in south Boston claims you as a victim.
That would be so ironic.
Tony
And here you go again pantyboy, hoping that a good American gets hurt
or killed because she disagrees with your filth. What a democrat you
are. Along with hoping that your soldiers get attacked so as you can
say "I told you so" on a usenet newsgroup. What a great support you are
for your country!
Scumbag!
WH
Just another 'christian' with murder in his heart.
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09 Jan 2005 09:13:32 AM |
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In article <JPednUISz_epunzcRVn-pQ@locallink.net>, " John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105274147.423854.132020@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
You know, you like Chris and his Terrorist buddies so much, I hope
one of those
Al Qeada in south Boston claims you as a victim.
That would be so ironic.
Tony
And here you go again pantyboy, hoping that a good American gets hurt
or killed because she disagrees with your filth. What a democrat you
are. Along with hoping that your soldiers get attacked so as you can
say "I told you so" on a usenet newsgroup. What a great support you are
for your country!
Scumbag!
WH
Just another 'christian' with murder in his heart.
You have to be on the alert with any in-your-face religious person - they're
often overcompensating for a dark heart.
Woods
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09 Jan 2005 12:10:05 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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In article <JPednUISz_epunzcRVn-pQ@locallink.net>, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105274147.423854.132020@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
You know, you like Chris and his Terrorist buddies so much, I hope
one of those
Al Qeada in south Boston claims you as a victim.
That would be so ironic.
Tony
And here you go again pantyboy, hoping that a good American gets hurt
or killed because she disagrees with your filth. What a democrat you
are. Along with hoping that your soldiers get attacked so as you can
say "I told you so" on a usenet newsgroup. What a great support you are
for your country!
Scumbag!
WH
Just another 'christian' with murder in his heart.
You have to be on the alert with any in-your-face religious person -
they're
often overcompensating for a dark heart.
Woods
Insightful point. :-)
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09 Jan 2005 07:11:18 PM |
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http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/Graphics/This.n.That/Bin.de.Sheeper.jpg
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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09 Jan 2005 02:03:50 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 15:13:32 GMT, (Woodswun)
wrote:
In article <JPednUISz_epunzcRVn-pQ@locallink.net>, " John F Lemke" <jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1105274147.423854.132020@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
TonyZ2001 wrote:
Dani
wrote:
"WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
You know, you like Chris and his Terrorist buddies so much, I hope
one of those
Al Qeada in south Boston claims you as a victim.
That would be so ironic.
And here you go again pantyboy, hoping that a good American gets hurt
or killed because she disagrees with your filth. What a democrat you
are. Along with hoping that your soldiers get attacked so as you can
say "I told you so" on a usenet newsgroup. What a great support you are
for your country!
...yup.. and how he hopes Saddam will regain power and "uproot" three
nations! Just so the armchair general can come on our little group
out in cyber-space and say he was *right*! What a weird ***** complex,
ha? Having to be "right" at any cost? And I mean at *any* cost.
Maybe his parents (his father in particular) constantly told him he
was wrong all the time growing up.
He's definitely a candidate for a damn good Psychiatrist
WH
Just another 'christian' with murder in his heart.
Odd isn't it? I always believed Christians followed Christs' word.
They're supposed to be good at heart, tolerant, accepting of others;
forgiving, kind-spirited etc.. it's people like Tony that give
Christians a bad name (the born-agains!!!) - sorry to the good
born-agains out there, but I must bluntly say that the ones I've
encountered in my time have freaked me right out!
Now as an example - Woods is a Christian. I think she's great. Look
at the vast difference between her and Tony? A complete 180 when
it comes to how they treat people. So there *are* good Christians;
please don't get me wrong.
You have to be on the alert with any in-your-face religious person - they're
often overcompensating for a dark heart.
Couldn't agree more. You cannot shove religion down someone's throat.
And that's what they try to do. As an example, the lunatic who told
my mother that my Nana didn't go to Heaven because she wasn't
born-again (in other words: convert to born-again Christianity or you
yourself also won't be entering Heaven). Sick! My Nana was a devout
Catholic. Now someone who says something like that obviously has a
dark heart as you say.
Then look how Tony acts here - pointing his finger at everyone after
he was found doing all those dirty deeds (panthose group, looking for
oral sex when he's married - advertising himself as an Italian
Stallion male escort for cash.. enquiring about the street $$value of
one of *the* worst drugs out there, oxycontin.. inciting incest etc..)
Hypocrite!
Makes you wonder how many of the other born-agains also talk the big
talk but most certainly don't walk the walk.
Shame.
Dani
Woods
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09 Jan 2005 06:58:34 PM |
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In article <jv13u05drvtmk5fenugaj3pktbi1b2vve2@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:
Odd isn't it? I always believed Christians followed Christs' word.
They're supposed to be good at heart, tolerant, accepting of others;
forgiving, kind-spirited etc.. it's people like Tony that give
Christians a bad name (the born-agains!!!) - sorry to the good
born-agains out there, but I must bluntly say that the ones I've
encountered in my time have freaked me right out!
I have yet to meet a single born again who was non-judgemental, honest, or
compassionate. It's very bizarre!
Now as an example - Woods is a Christian. I think she's great. Look
at the vast difference between her and Tony? A complete 180 when
it comes to how they treat people. So there *are* good Christians;
please don't get me wrong.
That's very kind of you, Dani, but I'm sure that Tony wouldn't consider me to be
a Christian.
You have to be on the alert with any in-your-face religious person - they're
often overcompensating for a dark heart.
Couldn't agree more. You cannot shove religion down someone's throat.
And that's what they try to do. As an example, the lunatic who told
my mother that my Nana didn't go to Heaven because she wasn't
born-again (in other words: convert to born-again Christianity or you
yourself also won't be entering Heaven). Sick! My Nana was a devout
Catholic. Now someone who says something like that obviously has a
dark heart as you say.
Then look how Tony acts here - pointing his finger at everyone after
he was found doing all those dirty deeds (panthose group, looking for
oral sex when he's married - advertising himself as an Italian
Stallion male escort for cash.. enquiring about the street $$value of
one of *the* worst drugs out there, oxycontin.. inciting incest etc..)
Hypocrite!
Makes you wonder how many of the other born-agains also talk the big
talk but most certainly don't walk the walk.
I've got several in my extended family (first cousin & cousin/cousin-in-law) -
if they weren't related, nobody would have anything to do with them. To a
person, they are selfish, petty, deceitful, judgemental - and it goes on.
What's weird is they are the only ones in the entire family that are like that,
the rest of us are like a big clan -if anyone needs help, we're all there
(except the born agains, who expect payment for any effort - WEIRD).
Woods
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Dani wrote:
On 8 Jan 2005 11:25:51 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
WH
he he he ;-)
'Faceache Pantyboy' !!!!!!!!
Hooroo / Toodles ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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08 Jan 2005 10:05:00 PM |
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On 8 Jan 2005 19:54:40 -0800, "La bouche de la vérité - Déjà Vu Le
Prophéte" <yessireeyesindeedydo@yahoo.ca> wrote:
Dani wrote:
On 8 Jan 2005 11:25:51 -0800, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
Try finding intelligent articles pantyboy if you must continue your
"copy and paste" attacks.
LOL! "copy and paste attacks" - I like that one .. ;)
Dani
WH
he he he ;-)
'Faceache Pantyboy' !!!!!!!!
Oh you guys kill me - and Krib with "fat tone"!!!
...now "cut and paste attacks" LOL!
...oohh too much.
It never gets old either - "faceache" and "fat tone" - always laugh
when I read it. - now we have "cut and paste attacks" that cracked me
right up .. ;)
Niece Dani
Hooroo / Toodles ;-)
Uncle Wally ;-)
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