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For those who were not around more than eight years ago, here is
a re-post of an interesting exchange about quatrain VI-13:
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Subject: Quatrain VI-13 (was: something else!)
Message-ID: <F9Kyv5.FGI.0.queen@torfree.net>
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:11:29 GMT
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[QUOTE]
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On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:10:10 GMT
lemesur@bengal.demon.co.uk (Peter Lemesurier) wrote about what
On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 03:15:15 GMT, "Sean" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
Un dubieux ne viendra long du regne
La plus grand part le voudra soustenir
Un captiole ne voudra point qu'il regne
Sa grande chair ne pourra maintenir
Sean, the 'real' text of VI-13 is:
C E N T V R I E S I X S I E S M E.
(édition de novembre 1557)
X I I I
Vn dubieux ne viendra loing du regne,
La plus grand part le vouldra soustenir:
Vn capitole ne vouldra point qu'il regne,
Sa grande charge ne pourra maintenir.
NOTE:
Dubieux: dubious, shady; plus: most; plus grand part: by majority;
soutenir:to support; captiole: an anagram of the word "capitol" or
Capitol Hill;point: point, mark; pourra (pourrir): to become rotten,
decay; maintenir: to uphold, defend.
One dubious president shall not reign long
The majority of population shall give him support
But Capitol Hill shall not give high mark of approval
Such a great chair shall be upheld from decay
COMMENT: This president shall be impeached by Congress even he gains a
majority of approval from his people. The English word " chair"
indicates
that this event shall occur in an English-speaking country. And the
word
"Capitol" clearly indicates US Congress.
NOTE FROM KROM: Clinton was impeached was he not? But he survived it.
Quite apart from being misquoted and mistranslated, this quatrain in
fact says that whoever it is will not actually make it into power in
the first place!
--
Peter
Peter Lemesurier, still defending the untenable position that
Nostradamus' prophecy does not extend to the United States of
America, does his usual disinformation trick, and misleads you
into believing that the entire quatrain is... its first line:
"this quatrain in fact says that whoever it is will not
actually make it into power in the first place!"
Here is what I had to say about VI-13 in a previous post:
On Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:48:38 -0400,
Jean Guernon <jguernon@ivic.qc.ca> a écrit au sujet de ce que
Claude Latremouille a écrit au sujet du quatrain VI-13:
[ my snip going to Peter's comment ]
: 1. Line one says it's about somebody who doesn't quite make it to
: power - which means it can't be about Clinton.
Agreed that it can't be about Clinton. Nixon doesn't quite make it
to power in 1960.
Claude, you too you take "ne viendra loin du règne" as to mean "wont get
far from the reign" instead of "wont get far into the reign"?
Correct. The first line of VI-13 refers specifically to November
8, 1960, and the following election results:
John F. Kennedy 34 227 096
Richard M. Nixon 34 108 546
Nixon really came close but - as Peter said above, didn't quite
make it to power then.
Are you sure (you see that that way)?
Yes, Jean, I am sure. Why? Because
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
V N D U B I E U X
N I X
is a hell of a way to point to the subject of the quatrain!
"Dubieux" does not exist in French. It comes from the Latin
(dubiosus).
And because
VN DUBIEUX NE VIENDRA LOING DU REGNE,
-N ---I--X -- ------- -O-N- -- -----
finishes the job of identifying the person referred to in this
quatrain. That's why Nostradamus uses a non-existent French word
to point to Nixon ('dubious' exists in English), as the
equivalent French word (douteux) does not include an "I" (for
NIX). Furthermore, had he written "Le dubieux", he would have
lost his "N" for NIX; so he used "VN", to get his "N". Clever,
heh?!
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Claude Latrémouille % "Claude! There ain't no stinkin' %
Le 23 septembre 1998 % cryptic anagrams in them dang verses, %
APNCL#1041 % ya hear?!" (A chorus of a.p.n. voices) %
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Which shows that all quatrains do not refer to the present. A lot
of them refer to the past, some of them refer to the United
States of America, and one of them (VI-13) refers to the fact
that one of her Presidents almost became President in 1960 (line
1); that this elected President (1968) was re-elected with the
greatest majority in 1972 (line 2); that the Judiciary Committee
of the House of Representatives (a capitole) expressed the desire
to throw him out in 1974 (line 3); and that this President
declared himself unable to carry on his great office and resigned
(the only US President to have done so) in August 1974 (line 4).
And Peter... look! No anagrams!!! :-) [END OF QUOTE]
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille,
December 30, 2007,
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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