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As the enciphered nature of Nostradamus' poetry continued to be
discussed here in December 1997, one of the then regular posters
asked for a detailed example of how the deciphering had been
done. That exchange follows.
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Newsgroups: alt.prophecies.nostradamus
From: (Claude Latremouille)
Subject: How to find cryptic anagrams
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 18:27:31 GMT
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Responding to Alef in:
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Subject: Re: Example of cryptic anagrams (IV-32)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 20:06:15 -0600
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Alef wrote
Claude
In order to appreciate your fine writing, a person has
to be coming to the same conclusion then you by
following the same set of rules. Now if you care to
start with an easy quatrain and explain in detail from
the first line how you get to that transformation, I
would certainly make all necessary effort to follow
you carefully.
Claude Latremouille wrote:
To get from the original quatrain to the decrypted prose which
follows, one must apply the rules of the cryptic anagram, i.e.,
1. Each line is a distinct anagram.
2. Each word must not have more than one (1) letter missing.
3. The total of unused letters for each line must not vary by
more than one unit (plus or minus one) from the total of
missing letters.
These are the rules of the game. Get your Scrabble(R) board and
letters out of the closet, and follow the rules. Write the first
line of the quatrain by placing the letters on your table.
Original quatrain IX-49 from the 1568 edition:
Gand et Bruceles marcheront contre Enuers.
Senat de Londres mettront à mort leur roy
Le sel et vin luy seront à l'enuers,
Pour eux auoir le regne en desarroy.
And its version in prose, decrypted by Claude Latrémouille:
Cromuel tuera le Bon Charles d'Angleterre en
Emmenant le Roy dehors et torturant alors
Vne très Belle Teste si Royalle
Coupée à Londres en Ianuyer XL Neuf.
Now, since that quatrain has been known for centuries to refer
(very vaguely I admit) to the beheading of King Charles I of
England by Oliver Cromwell, one is tempted to move the letters of
the first line to form words like "Charles" or "Oliver" or
"Cromuel" or "Angleterre" or anything which suggests the event
already recognized in the poetry. In this case, the anagram was
thus made:
- letters between parentheses () are missing letters.
- capital letters at the end of each decrypted line are unused
letters.
LINE 1 ORIGINAL
Gand et Bruceles marcheront contre Enuers.
LINE 1 DECRYPTED
Cromue(l) tuera le Bon Char(l)es d'(A)ngleterre (e)n CNST
Now, since you already have the beginning of a sentence, you
already know that the next word has to be a verb. So you start
the anagram of the second line with possible verbs, in the
present participle form. Here is what I found:
LINE 2 ORIGINAL
Senat de Londres mettront à mort leur roy
LINE 2 DECRYPTED
Emmenant le Roy de(h)ors et tortur(a)nt alors D
Knowing the second line, you now expect the beginning of the
third line of anagrams to start with a direct object flowing from
the second present participle. What does Cromwell torture? The
King's head. So, that's what I wrote. With 16th Century spelling,
of course, because Nostradamus is the writer of these words, not
me. Don't write "tête", write "teste".
LINE 3 ORIGINAL
Le sel et vin luy seront à l'enuers,
LINE 3 DECRYPTED
Vne très (B)elle Tes(t)e si Royall(e) NNUU
Now, the hard part is to finish the sentence. You don't know how
Nostradamus does it, because in this case the third line does not
allow you to guess. But there is nothing wrong at using your
brain. That's what I do. Is there anything missing, so far? Yes,
the date of the decapitation (30 January 1649). And the quatrain
bears the number 49, to top the cake. So, you try to write in the
date.
Anything else, missing? Yes, the place of execution. But the
original verse already gave you that, in the second line
(Londres). So, you already know where it happens. Why not try the
fourth anagram using words like "Londres" or "Ianuyer" (there is
only one "i" in the original)? That's what I did.
LINE 4 ORIGINAL
Pour eux auoir le regne en desarroy.
LINE 4 DECRYPTED
(C)oupée à (L)ondres e(n) Ia(n)uyer XL Neu(f). GORRR
Oh, you may say, you cheat. You did not give a full date. Well, I
answer, no need to. Nostradamus knows that this anagram is found
in 1996 (the 1649 date is well known by then), that there has
been no beheading of a King Charles of England in 1549, nor in
1749, 1849, 1949... and he also knows that his prophecy ends in
2017, before 2049. So, the only 49 (XL Neuf) which fits the event
is the correct one... because Oliver Cromwell has been dead for
quite a while!
You still don't like it? You don't have to.
I like it. I like it a lot, as a matter of fact.
And in case some of our friends can't read French, here is a not-
too-elegant translation of what I found:
Cromwell shall kill the Good Charles of England by
Leading the King outside and then torturing
A very Handsome Head so Royal
Cut off at London in Ianuary XL Nine.
Don't you like it? :-)
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille,
January 14, 2008,
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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