Christian woman whipped under Islamic law
Arrested for not wearing traditional Muslim headscarf in public
Posted: June 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Public-order police under Sudan's Islamist regime fined and whipped a Christian
woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat.
Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban Khartoum home
April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop and dragged
her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund.
The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an ankle-length
skirt.
The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where four other
women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held overnight at
the police station.
The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where the Muslim
policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a statement or
speak in her own defense.
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a garden at
night" and not wearing a scarf on her head.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000 dinars, the
equivalent of a month's wage.
Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and paying the
fine.
Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all Sudanese
citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law.
Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim southerners in
the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year civil war
between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African Christian and
animist south, which has been fighting Khartoum's imposition of Islamic law.
Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent, might have been
mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and accent
should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity.
Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was exempt from the
Islamic dress code.
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Christian woman whipped under Islamic law
Arrested for not wearing traditional Muslim headscarf in public
There won't be any. If you listen to people like tw, these things hardly
ever happen.
Jane
Posted: June 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Public-order police under Sudan's Islamist regime fined and whipped a
Christian
woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat.
Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban Khartoum
home
April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop and
dragged
her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund.
The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an
ankle-length
skirt.
The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where four
other
women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held
overnight at
the police station.
The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where the
Muslim
policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a statement
or
speak in her own defense.
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a garden
at
night" and not wearing a scarf on her head.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000 dinars,
the
equivalent of a month's wage.
Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and paying the
fine.
Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all
Sudanese
citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law.
Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim
southerners in
the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year civil
war
between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African Christian and
animist south, which has been fighting Khartoum's imposition of Islamic
law.
Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent, might have
been
mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and
accent
should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity.
Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was exempt from
the
Islamic dress code.
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Christian woman whipped under Islamic law
Arrested for not wearing traditional Muslim headscarf in public
There won't be any. If you listen to people like tw,
LOL! Funny how puncturing yours (and otehrs) bigotry is seen as agreeing
with the other side
these things hardly
ever happen.
What, people breaking the law and getting over-enthusiatically punished for
it? Happens all the time.
Jane
Posted: June 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Public-order police under Sudan's Islamist regime fined and whipped a
Christian
woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat.
Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban Khartoum
home
April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop and
dragged
her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund.
The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an
ankle-length
skirt.
The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where four
other
women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held
overnight at
the police station.
The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where the
Muslim
policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a statement
or
speak in her own defense.
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a garden
at
night" and not wearing a scarf on her head.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000 dinars,
the
equivalent of a month's wage.
Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and paying
the
fine.
Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all
Sudanese
citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law.
Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim
southerners in
the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year
civil
war
between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African Christian
and
animist south, which has been fighting Khartoum's imposition of Islamic
law.
Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent, might
have
been
mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and
accent
should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity.
Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was exempt
from
the
Islamic dress code.
.
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17 Jun 2004 09:38:24 AM |
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Christian woman whipped under Islamic law
Arrested for not wearing traditional Muslim headscarf in public
There won't be any. If you listen to people like tw,
LOL! Funny how puncturing yours (and otehrs) bigotry is seen as agreeing
with the other side
You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
these things hardly
ever happen.
What, people breaking the law and getting over-enthusiatically punished for
it? Happens all the time.
Happens in muslim countries all the time. In my country, people
aren't punished nearly enough for REAL crimes, for the most part.
Jane
Jane
Posted: June 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Public-order police under Sudan's Islamist regime fined and whipped a
Christian
woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat.
Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban Khartoum
home
April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop and
dragged
her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund.
The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an
ankle-length
skirt.
The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where four
other
women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held
overnight at
the police station.
The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where the
Muslim
policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a statement
or
speak in her own defense.
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a garden
at
night" and not wearing a scarf on her head.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000 dinars,
the
equivalent of a month's wage.
Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and paying
the
fine.
Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all
Sudanese
citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law.
Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim
southerners in
the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year
civil
war
between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African Christian
and
animist south, which has been fighting Khartoum's imposition of Islamic
law.
Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent, might
have
been
mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and
accent
should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity.
Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was exempt
from
the
Islamic dress code.
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Christian woman whipped under Islamic law
Arrested for not wearing traditional Muslim headscarf in public
There won't be any. If you listen to people like tw,
LOL! Funny how puncturing yours (and otehrs) bigotry is seen as agreeing
with the other side
You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
I said it wasn't the "cultural norm" . PLease stop putting words in my
mouth.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
these things hardly
ever happen.
What, people breaking the law and getting over-enthusiatically punished
for
it? Happens all the time.
Happens in muslim countries all the time.
And in non-muslim ones, just as often
In my country, people
aren't punished nearly enough for REAL crimes, for the most part.
Would you like to see them stoned to death?
Jane
Jane
Posted: June 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Public-order police under Sudan's Islamist regime fined and whipped
a
Christian
woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat.
Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban
Khartoum
home
April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop
and
dragged
her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund.
The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an
ankle-length
skirt.
The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where
four
other
women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held
overnight at
the police station.
The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where
the
Muslim
policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a
statement
or
speak in her own defense.
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a
garden
at
night" and not wearing a scarf on her head.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000
dinars,
the
equivalent of a month's wage.
Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and
paying
the
fine.
Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all
Sudanese
citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law.
Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim
southerners in
the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year
civil
war
between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African
Christian
and
animist south, which has been fighting Khartoum's imposition of
Islamic
law.
Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent,
might
have
been
mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and
accent
should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity.
Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was
exempt
from
the
Islamic dress code.
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Christian woman whipped under Islamic law
Arrested for not wearing traditional Muslim headscarf in public
There won't be any. If you listen to people like tw,
LOL! Funny how puncturing yours (and otehrs) bigotry is seen as agreeing
with the other side
You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
I said it wasn't the "cultural norm" . PLease stop putting words in my
mouth.
Except in many cases, it is the norm when women "disgrace" the
family's honour. They are killed by a male relative. It can be for
something as innocuous as being seen talking to the same boy too
often.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
these things hardly
ever happen.
What, people breaking the law and getting over-enthusiatically punished
for
it? Happens all the time.
Happens in muslim countries all the time.
And in non-muslim ones, just as often
In my country, people
aren't punished nearly enough for REAL crimes, for the most part.
Would you like to see them stoned to death?
Obviously not! Lethal injection or electrocution are much more
humane.
Jane
Jane
Jane
Posted: June 16, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
Public-order police under Sudan's Islamist regime fined and whipped
a
Christian
woman for not wearing a headcovering in 100-degree heat.
Cecilia John Holland, 27, was on a bus heading to her suburban
Khartoum
home
April 13 when about 10 police officers forced the vehicle to stop
and
dragged
her from it, according to the British-based charity Barnabas Fund.
The group said Holland was dressed modestly in long sleeves and an
ankle-length
skirt.
The policemen struck her while forcing her into their vehicle where
four
other
women already were inside, the British charity said. She was held
overnight at
the police station.
The next morning, Holland was taken to Sizana Islamic Court where
the
Muslim
policemen testified against her. She was not allowed to make a
statement
or
speak in her own defense.
The court declared her guilty of charges she was "standing near a
garden
at
night" and not wearing a scarf on her head.
She was sentenced to 40 lashes on the back and a fine of 10,000
dinars,
the
equivalent of a month's wage.
Authorities released her that afternoon after being whipped and
paying
the
fine.
Earlier in April, the government had renewed its insistence that all
Sudanese
citizens residing in Khartoum would be under Islamic law.
Barnabas noted Holland is one of more than 2 million non-Muslim
southerners in
the capital area who have been displaced as a result of the 21-year
civil
war
between the mainly Arab Muslim north and the mainly African
Christian
and
animist south, which has been fighting Khartoum's imposition of
Islamic
law.
Holland, who has paler skin because of a Europeoan grandparent,
might
have
been
mistaken for an Arab Muslim, but the British group says her name and
accent
should have proved her Christian and southern Sudanese identity.
Police reportedly told her no one, "not even a non-Muslim" was
exempt
from
the
Islamic dress code.
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You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
"islamic law "
http://michaelreport.com/history/east/arabs/islamiclaw.html
Not for the squeamish.
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(Michael Johnathan McDonald) Spat the Words
pushlinque@hotmail.com (Jane) wrote in message
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You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
"islamic law "
http://michaelreport.com/history/east/arabs/islamiclaw.html
Not for the squeamish.
The notion of 'islamic law' would seem to be a direct contradiction
of 'separation of church and state'.
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"R. Foreman" <eidpers@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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abookoflife@yahoo.com (Michael Johnathan McDonald) Spat the Words
pushlinque@hotmail.com (Jane) wrote in message
news:<a8a04f01.0406170638.c4e12c1@posting.google.com>...
You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
"islamic law "
http://michaelreport.com/history/east/arabs/islamiclaw.html
Not for the squeamish.
The notion of 'islamic law' would seem to be a direct contradiction
of 'separation of church and state'.
Exactly. And that is just one of the problems with it!
Jane
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pushlinque@hotmail.com (Jane) wrote in message
news:<a8a04f01.0406170638.c4e12c1@posting.google.com>...
You haven't punctured anything! I am, of course, referring to your
take on honour killings being a rare and non-tolerated occurence.
Yeah, I know, the woman in question wasn't killed, only brutally
abused. Yet we should allow islamic law into our western countries!
"islamic law "
http://michaelreport.com/history/east/arabs/islamiclaw.html
Not for the squeamish.
The notion of 'islamic law' would seem to be a direct contradiction
of 'separation of church and state'.
Absolutely, and I for one wouldn't want to live under it. Then again I
wouldn't want to live under a system of law which executed prisoners either,
but we just have to accept people in different countries do things
differently I suppose.
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