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User: "Thelasian"
Date: 05 Oct 2004 08:30:39 PM
Object: Who armed Saddam?
In 1982, Saddam Hussein's regime was **REMOVED** from the State Dept
list of "Terrorist Nations" to ease the transfer of funds and
technology to his regime.
The US Dept of Agriculture CCC program was abused to send $402 MILLION
to Saddam, supposedly for "agricultural" purposes but in fact used to
prop his regime, despite the FACT that US Dept of Ag officials worried
that Saddam didn't have the resources to pay back any of the "loans"
The US also provided Saddam with military hardware, such as
helicopters from the US which were used to spray chemicals on Kurds.
The US also saw to it that third parties also provided Saddam with all
the arms he needed, such as Chilean cluster bombs.
The US also provided Saddam with bio-weapons components, including
anthrax, which were shipped to KNOWN bioweapons labs. According to the
CDC, these same strains were weaponized and potentially used against
US troops.
Look, even though there are still die-hard head-in-the-sand types that
deny it, even DECLASSIFIED US DOCUMENTS prove that the US was chummy
with Saddam. Its a matter of history.
SOME PROOF to get you started:
Arming Iraq: How the U.S. and Britain Secretly Built Saddam's War
Machine
(Northeastern University Press December 1, 1996)
Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally
Armed Iraq
by Alan Friedman (Bantam November 1, 1993)
http://nsarchive.chadwyck.com/igessayx.htm
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1992/h920519l.htm
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/ tallahassee/news/politics/4186725.htm
http://www.fair.org/extra/9505/iraqgate.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4277.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 1998/vo14no07/vo14no07_arming.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 2002/10-21-2002/vo18no21_iraq.htm
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/506/506p12.htm
.

User: "Jean Guernon"

Title: Re: Who armed Saddam? 06 Oct 2004 12:07:00 PM
Thelasian a écrit:

In 1982, Saddam Hussein's regime was **REMOVED** from the State Dept
list of "Terrorist Nations" to ease the transfer of funds and
technology to his regime.

The US Dept of Agriculture CCC program was abused to send $402 MILLION
to Saddam, supposedly for "agricultural" purposes but in fact used to
prop his regime, despite the FACT that US Dept of Ag officials worried
that Saddam didn't have the resources to pay back any of the "loans"

Lie, it was for legitimate purposes, and never were there ill intentions
by the US but to help the population there, and it is Saddam who was the
one who lied and misused part of this and mandated Dr. germ without he
knowledge of the US.

The US also provided Saddam with military hardware, such as
helicopters from the US which were used to spray chemicals on Kurds.

Lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm
The first chemical attacks by Saddam Hussein against civilian
populations included attacks launched by Iraqi aircraft against 20 small
villages in 1987.
I read somewhere that French mirages were used for that. But I am not
sure. Anyway, even if these had been military helicopters, it still
wasn't US made. No US made military hardware was EVER sold to Iraq
between 1967 and 2000. We have seen in the past some try to smuggle
civilian helicopter parts to Iraq... illegally!! they were caught.

The US also saw to it that third parties also provided Saddam with all
the arms he needed, such as Chilean cluster bombs.

Lie, the US has NEVER sold Saddam ANY weapon. This is a total lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm

The US also provided Saddam with bio-weapons components, including
anthrax, which were shipped to KNOWN bioweapons labs. According to the
CDC, these same strains were weaponized and potentially used against
US troops.

Lie and total lies. Provide a link BY THE CDC that says that. YOU CAN'T.
BECAUSE IT IS LIES.


Look, even though there are still die-hard head-in-the-sand types that
deny it, even DECLASSIFIED US DOCUMENTS prove that the US was chummy
with Saddam. Its a matter of history.

*****. First of all there were no relation before 1984,
And then the shaky relations were shut off by 1986 because of Iran gate.
There was hardly dialogue with the administration until 1990 as Glaspie
said:
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
GLASPIE: I have a direct instruction from the President to seek better
relations with Iraq.
but this didn't happen of course since Saddam was lying all along in his
interview and was about to invade Kuwait.

SOME PROOF to get you started:

The following is ALL propaganda lies links except for fas.org which is
merely some weasel (democrat surely) giving his ***** "opinion" and lies
about the US administration. All you spew is *****.
The international imports network and the German role between 1982 and
1990 (subhead)
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/az120103.html
In early 1979, Iraq built the first factory to produce insecticides with
the help of Italian engineers. The factory was built in the region of
Akashat at a cost of $50 million. A security system was also built to
protect the factory that cost another $60 million. The building of this
factory experienced many problems, such as espionage attempts by the
Mosad, the Israeli intelligence service. The western companies that
dealt with the defunct regime -- for instance Australian and Dutch firms
-- exported a lot of materials related to this field of production. For
instance, the Dutch firm KBS sold Iraq large quantities of Thiodilyco
(name as transliterated), a material that is essential in the production
of mustard gas, at a cost of 1.5 million Marks. Multinational Italian
firms also supplied Iraq with 60 tons of Oxycklorure (name as
transliterated), a phosphoric material that is also used in chemical
industries that can be put to dual-use. As for the French companies,
they exported to Iraq large quantities of a gas (not further identified)
that can be used in warfare. This gas was exported across the borders
from Italy and Turkey. This transaction was concluded through the
mediation of the German Company Karl Kolb. A confidential report issued
on 21 August 1990 by Helmut Hossman (name as transliterated), the
Economy Minister of then West Germany, confirmed that the German
companies had the lion's share in these transactions. The report said
that since 1983, West German companies have exported to Iraq huge
quantities of raw materials, equipment, and small industrial factories
to produce poison gases. The report also said that these companies
participated directly in building the Sa'd Project, the Iraqi chemical
project, and the construction of the military complex in Al-Taji.
Why do you pollute our NG with your lies?
J.


Arming Iraq: How the U.S. and Britain Secretly Built Saddam's War
Machine
(Northeastern University Press December 1, 1996)

Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally
Armed Iraq
by Alan Friedman (Bantam November 1, 1993)

http://nsarchive.chadwyck.com/igessayx.htm
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1992/h920519l.htm
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/ tallahassee/news/politics/4186725.htm
http://www.fair.org/extra/9505/iraqgate.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4277.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 1998/vo14no07/vo14no07_arming.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 2002/10-21-2002/vo18no21_iraq.htm
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/506/506p12.htm

.
User: "Thelasian"

Title: Re: Who armed Saddam? 07 Oct 2004 09:36:21 AM
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<UCV8d.33132$N%.20756@edtnps84>...

Thelasian a écrit:

In 1982, Saddam Hussein's regime was **REMOVED** from the State Dept
list of "Terrorist Nations" to ease the transfer of funds and
technology to his regime.

The US Dept of Agriculture CCC program was abused to send $402 MILLION
to Saddam, supposedly for "agricultural" purposes but in fact used to
prop his regime, despite the FACT that US Dept of Ag officials worried
that Saddam didn't have the resources to pay back any of the "loans"


Lie, it was for legitimate purposes, and never were there ill intentions
by the US but to help the population there, and it is Saddam who was the
one who lied and misused part of this and mandated Dr. germ without he
knowledge of the US.

Funny, 'cuz the US had to REMOVED Saddam from the State Dept list of
terrorist nations in 1982 to ease the way for the transfer of arms and
money to him. Obviously, if Saddam's regime was on that list, then the
US knew PERFECTLY WELL what sort of regime it was dealing with.



The US also provided Saddam with military hardware, such as
helicopters from the US which were used to spray chemicals on Kurds.


Lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm
The first chemical attacks by Saddam Hussein against civilian
populations included attacks launched by Iraqi aircraft against 20 small
villages in 1987.

Since when is a helicopter not an "aircraft"????

I read somewhere that French mirages were used for that. But I am not
sure. Anyway, even if these had been military helicopters, it still
wasn't US made. No US made military hardware was EVER sold to Iraq
between 1967 and 2000.

Dream on. Not only did the US provide DIRECT military aid to Saddam
(including both arms and money) it also provided INDIRECT aid/
I. Howard Teicher, hereby state that, to the best of my knowledge
and belief, the facts presented herein are true, correct and complete.
I
further state that to the best of my knowledge and belief, nothing
stated
in this Declaration constitutes classified information.
1. My name is Howard Teicher. From 1977 to 1987, I served in the
United States government as a member of the national security
bureaucracy.

From early 1982 to 1987, I served as a Staff Member to the United

States
National Security Council.
2. While a Staff Member to the National Security Council, I was
responsible for the Middle East and for Political-Military Affairs.
During my five year tenure on the National security Council, I had
regular contact with both CIA Director William Casey and Deputy
Director
Robert Gates.
3. In the Spring of 1982, Iraq teetered on the brink of losing its
war with Iran. In May and June, 1982, the Iranians discovered a gap in
the Iraqi defenses along the Iran-Iraq border between Baghdad to the
north
and Basra to the south. Iran positioned a massive invasion force
directly
across from the gap in the Iraqi defenses. An Iranian breakthrough at
the
spot would have cutoff Baghdad from Basra and would have resulted in
Iraq's defeat.
4. United States Intelligence, including satellite imagery, had
detected both the gap in the Iraqi defenses and the Iranian massing of
troops across from the gap. At the time, the United States was
officially
neutral in the Iran-Iraq conflict.
5. President Reagan was forced to choose between (a) maintaining
strict neutrality and allowing Iran to defeat Iraq, or (b) intervening
and
providing assistance to Iraq.
6. In June, 1982, President Reagan decided that the United States
could not afford to allow Iraq to lose the war to Iran. President
Reagan
decided that the United States would do whatever was necessary and
legal
to prevent Iraq from losing the war with Iran. President Reagan
formalized
this policy by issuing a National Security Decision Directive ("NSDD")
to
this effect in June, 1982. I have personal knowledge of this NSDD
because
I co-authored the NSDD with another NSC Staff Member, Geoff Kemp. The
NSDD, including even its indentifying number, is classified.
7. CIA Director Casey personally spearheaded the effort to ensure
that Iraq had sufficient military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to
avoid losing the Iran-Iraq war. Pursuant to the secred NSDD, the
United
States actively supported the Iraqi war effort by supplying the Iraqis
with billions of dollars of credits, by providing U.S. military
intelligence and advice to the Iraqis, and by closely monitoring third
country arms sales to Iraq to make sure that Iraq had the military
weaponry required. The United States also provided strategic
operational
advice to the Iraqis to better use their assets in combat. For
example,
in 1986, President Reagan sent a secret message to Saddam Hussein
telling
him that Iraq should step up its air war and bombing of Iran. This
message was delivered by Vice President Bush who communicated it to
Egyptian President Mubarak, who in turn passed the message to Saddam
Hussein. Similar strategic operational military advice was passed to
Saddam Hussein through various meetings with European and Middle
Eastern
heads of state. I authored Bush's talking points for the 1986 meeting
with Mubarak and personally attended numerous meetings with European
and
Middle East heads of state where the strategic operational advice was
communicated.
8. I personally attended meetings in which CIA Director Casey or
CIA Deputy Director Gates noted the need for Iraq to have certain
weapons
such as cluster bombs and anti-armor penetrators in order to stave off
the
Iranian attacks. When I joined the NSC staff in early 1982, CIA
Director
Casey was adamant that cluster bombs were a perfect "force multiplier"
that would allow the Iraqis to defend against the "human waves" of
Iranian
attackers. I recorded those comments in the minutes of National
Security
Planning Group ("NSPG") meetings in which Casey or Gates participated.
9. The CIA, including both CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director
Gates, knew of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S.
origin
military weapons, ammunition and vehicles to Iraq. My notes, memoranda
and other documents in my NSC files show or tend to show that the CIA
knew
of, approved of, and assisted in the sale of non-U.S. origin military
weapons, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.
10. The United States was anxious to have other countries supply
assistance to Iraq. For example, in 1984, the Israelis concluded that
Iran was more dangerous than Iraq to Israel's existence due to the
growing
Iranian influence and presence in Lebanon. The Israelis approached the
United States in a meeting in Jerusalem that I attended with Donald
Rumsfeld. Israeli Foreign Minister Yitzhak Shamir asked Rumsfeld if
the
United States would deliver a secret offer of Israeli assistance to
Iraq.
The United States agreed. I travelled wtih Rumsfeld to Baghdad and was
present at the meeting in which Rumsfeld told Iraqi Foreign Minister
Tariq
Aziz about Israel's offer of assistance. Aziz refused even to accept
the
Israelis' letter to Hussein offering assistance, because Aziz told us
that
he would be executed on the spot by Hussein if he did so.
11. One of the reasons that the United States refused to license
or sell U.S. origin weapons to Iraq was that the supply of non-U.S.
origin
weapons to Iraq was sufficient to meet Iraq's needs. Under CIA
DIrector
Casey and Deputy Director Gates, the CIA made sure that non-U.S.
manufacturers manufactured and sold to Iraq the weapons needed by
Iraq.
In certain instances where a key component in a weapon was not readily
available, the highest levels of the United States government decided
to
make the component available, directly or indirectly, to Iraq. I
specifically recall that the provision of anti-armor penetrators to
Iraq
was a case in point. The United States made a policy decision to
supply
penetrators to Iraq. My notes, memoranda and other documents in my NSC
files will contain references to the Iraqis' need for anti-armor
penetrators and the decision to provide penetrators to Iraq.
12. Most of the Iraqi's military hardware was of Soviet origin.
Regular United States or NATO ammunition and spare parts could not be
used
in this Soviet weaponry.
13. The United States and the CIA maintained a program known as
the 'Bear Spares" program whereby the United States made sure that
spare
parts and ammunition for Soviet or Soviet-style weaponry were
available to
countries which sought to reduce their dependence on the Soviets for
defense needs. If the "Bear Spares" were manufactured outside the
United
States, then the United States could arrange for the provision of
these
weapons to a third country without direct involvement. Israel, for
example, had a very large stockpile of Soviet weaponry and ammunition
captured during its various wars. At the suggestion of the United
States,
the Israelis would transfer the spare parts and weapons to third
countries
or insurgent movements (such as the Afghan rebels and the Contras).
Similarly, Egypt manufactured weapons and spare parts from Soviet
designs
and porvided these weapons and ammunition to the Iraqis and other
countries. Egypt also served as a supplier for the Bear Spares
program.
The United States approved, assisted and encouraged Egypt's
manufacturing
capabilities. The United States approved, assisted and encouraged
Egypt's
sale of weaponry, munitions and vehicles to Iraq.
14. The mere request to a third party to carry out an action did
not constitute a "covert action," and, accordingly, required no
Presidential Finding or reporting to Congress. The supply of Cardoen
cluster bombs, which were fitted for use on Soviet, French and NATO
aircraft, was a mere extension fo the United States policy of
assisting
Iraq through all legal means in order to avoid an Iranian victory.
15. My NSC files are currently held in trhe President Ronald
Reagan Presidential Archives in Simi Valley, California. My files will
contain my notes and memoranda from meetings I attended with CIA
director
Casey or CIA Deputy Director Gates which included discussions of
Cardoen's
manufacture and sale of cluster bombs to Iraq. My NSC files will also
contain cable traffic among various United States agencies, embassies
and
other parties relating to Cardoen and his sale of cluster bombs and
other
munitions to Iraq and other Middle Eastern states.
16. Under CIA Director Casey and Deputy Director Gates, the CIA
authorized, approved and assisted Cardoen in the manufacture and sale
of
cluster bombs and other munitions to Iraq. My NSC files will contain
documents that show or tend to show the CIA's authorization, approval
and
assistance of Cardoen's manufacture and sale of cluster bombs and
other
muntions to Iraq.
17. My files will contain notes, memoranda and other documents
that will show that the highest levels fo the United States
government,
including the NSC Staff and the CIA, were well aware of Cardoen's
arrest
in 1983 in Miami in a sting operation relating to the smuggling of
night
vision goggles to Cuba and Libya. My files will also show that the
highest levels of the government were aware of the arrest and
conviction
of two of Cardoen's employees and his company Industrias Cardoen.
18. CIA Director William Casey, aware of Cardoen's arrest and the
conviction of his employees and his company, intervened in order to
make
sure that Cardoen was able to supply cluster bombs to Iraq.
Specifically,
CIA Director Casey directed the Secretaries of the State and Commerce
Departments that the necessary licenses required by Cardoen were not
to be
denied. My files will contain notes, memoranda and other documents
showing or tending to show that CIA Director William Casey's
intervention
was in order to maintain Cardoen's ability to supply cluster bombs and
other munitions to Iraq.
I declare under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and
correct to the best of my memory and recollection.
Executed on 1/31/95
Howard Teicher (signature appears on original)
SOURCE: http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1413.htm


J.


Arming Iraq: How the U.S. and Britain Secretly Built Saddam's War
Machine
(Northeastern University Press December 1, 1996)

Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally
Armed Iraq
by Alan Friedman (Bantam November 1, 1993)

http://nsarchive.chadwyck.com/igessayx.htm
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1992/h920519l.htm
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/ tallahassee/news/politics/4186725.htm
http://www.fair.org/extra/9505/iraqgate.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4277.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 1998/vo14no07/vo14no07_arming.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 2002/10-21-2002/vo18no21_iraq.htm
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/506/506p12.htm

.

User: "Cuan"

Title: Re: Who armed Saddam? 08 Oct 2004 12:57:44 AM
On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:07:00 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:



Thelasian a écrit:

In 1982, Saddam Hussein's regime was **REMOVED** from the State Dept
list of "Terrorist Nations" to ease the transfer of funds and
technology to his regime.

The US Dept of Agriculture CCC program was abused to send $402 MILLION
to Saddam, supposedly for "agricultural" purposes but in fact used to
prop his regime, despite the FACT that US Dept of Ag officials worried
that Saddam didn't have the resources to pay back any of the "loans"


Lie, it was for legitimate purposes, and never were there ill intentions
by the US but to help the population there, and it is Saddam who was the
one who lied and misused part of this and mandated Dr. germ without he
knowledge of the US.


The US also provided Saddam with military hardware, such as
helicopters from the US which were used to spray chemicals on Kurds.


Lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm
The first chemical attacks by Saddam Hussein against civilian
populations included attacks launched by Iraqi aircraft against 20 small
villages in 1987.

I read somewhere that French mirages were used for that. But I am not
sure. Anyway, even if these had been military helicopters, it still
wasn't US made. No US made military hardware was EVER sold to Iraq
between 1967 and 2000. We have seen in the past some try to smuggle
civilian helicopter parts to Iraq... illegally!! they were caught.

The US also saw to it that third parties also provided Saddam with all
the arms he needed, such as Chilean cluster bombs.


Lie, the US has NEVER sold Saddam ANY weapon. This is a total lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm

The US also provided Saddam with bio-weapons components, including
anthrax, which were shipped to KNOWN bioweapons labs. According to the
CDC, these same strains were weaponized and potentially used against
US troops.


Lie and total lies. Provide a link BY THE CDC that says that. YOU CAN'T.
BECAUSE IT IS LIES.


Look, even though there are still die-hard head-in-the-sand types that
deny it, even DECLASSIFIED US DOCUMENTS prove that the US was chummy
with Saddam. Its a matter of history.


*****. First of all there were no relation before 1984,

And then the shaky relations were shut off by 1986 because of Iran gate.

There was hardly dialogue with the administration until 1990 as Glaspie
said:
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
GLASPIE: I have a direct instruction from the President to seek better
relations with Iraq.

but this didn't happen of course since Saddam was lying all along in his
interview and was about to invade Kuwait.

SOME PROOF to get you started:


The following is ALL propaganda lies links except for fas.org which is
merely some weasel (democrat surely) giving his ***** "opinion" and lies
about the US administration. All you spew is *****.

The international imports network and the German role between 1982 and
1990 (subhead)
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/az120103.html
In early 1979, Iraq built the first factory to produce insecticides with
the help of Italian engineers. The factory was built in the region of
Akashat at a cost of $50 million. A security system was also built to
protect the factory that cost another $60 million. The building of this
factory experienced many problems, such as espionage attempts by the
Mosad, the Israeli intelligence service. The western companies that
dealt with the defunct regime -- for instance Australian and Dutch firms
-- exported a lot of materials related to this field of production. For
instance, the Dutch firm KBS sold Iraq large quantities of Thiodilyco
(name as transliterated), a material that is essential in the production
of mustard gas, at a cost of 1.5 million Marks. Multinational Italian
firms also supplied Iraq with 60 tons of Oxycklorure (name as
transliterated), a phosphoric material that is also used in chemical
industries that can be put to dual-use. As for the French companies,
they exported to Iraq large quantities of a gas (not further identified)
that can be used in warfare. This gas was exported across the borders
from Italy and Turkey. This transaction was concluded through the
mediation of the German Company Karl Kolb. A confidential report issued
on 21 August 1990 by Helmut Hossman (name as transliterated), the
Economy Minister of then West Germany, confirmed that the German
companies had the lion's share in these transactions. The report said
that since 1983, West German companies have exported to Iraq huge
quantities of raw materials, equipment, and small industrial factories
to produce poison gases. The report also said that these companies
participated directly in building the Sa'd Project, the Iraqi chemical
project, and the construction of the military complex in Al-Taji.

Why do you pollute our NG with your lies?

You're sounding really stupid around about now.

Arming Iraq: How the U.S. and Britain Secretly Built Saddam's War
Machine
(Northeastern University Press December 1, 1996)

Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally
Armed Iraq
by Alan Friedman (Bantam November 1, 1993)

http://nsarchive.chadwyck.com/igessayx.htm
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1992/h920519l.htm
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/ tallahassee/news/politics/4186725.htm
http://www.fair.org/extra/9505/iraqgate.html
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4277.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 1998/vo14no07/vo14no07_arming.htm
http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/ 2002/10-21-2002/vo18no21_iraq.htm
http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/506/506p12.htm

.
User: "Marvin The Paranoid Android"

Title: Re: Who armed Saddam? 09 Oct 2004 03:09:49 PM
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:12bcm0172igv7e6p5tlpd4etnu6k6r38qf@4ax.com...

On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:07:00 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:



Thelasian a écrit:

In 1982, Saddam Hussein's regime was **REMOVED** from the State Dept
list of "Terrorist Nations" to ease the transfer of funds and
technology to his regime.

The US Dept of Agriculture CCC program was abused to send $402 MILLION
to Saddam, supposedly for "agricultural" purposes but in fact used to
prop his regime, despite the FACT that US Dept of Ag officials worried
that Saddam didn't have the resources to pay back any of the "loans"


Lie, it was for legitimate purposes, and never were there ill intentions
by the US but to help the population there, and it is Saddam who was the
one who lied and misused part of this and mandated Dr. germ without he
knowledge of the US.


The US also provided Saddam with military hardware, such as
helicopters from the US which were used to spray chemicals on Kurds.


Lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm
The first chemical attacks by Saddam Hussein against civilian
populations included attacks launched by Iraqi aircraft against 20 small
villages in 1987.

I read somewhere that French mirages were used for that. But I am not
sure. Anyway, even if these had been military helicopters, it still
wasn't US made. No US made military hardware was EVER sold to Iraq
between 1967 and 2000. We have seen in the past some try to smuggle
civilian helicopter parts to Iraq... illegally!! they were caught.

The US also saw to it that third parties also provided Saddam with all
the arms he needed, such as Chilean cluster bombs.


Lie, the US has NEVER sold Saddam ANY weapon. This is a total lie.
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/program.htm

The US also provided Saddam with bio-weapons components, including
anthrax, which were shipped to KNOWN bioweapons labs. According to the
CDC, these same strains were weaponized and potentially used against
US troops.


Lie and total lies. Provide a link BY THE CDC that says that. YOU CAN'T.
BECAUSE IT IS LIES.


Look, even though there are still die-hard head-in-the-sand types that
deny it, even DECLASSIFIED US DOCUMENTS prove that the US was chummy
with Saddam. Its a matter of history.


*****. First of all there were no relation before 1984,

And then the shaky relations were shut off by 1986 because of Iran gate.

There was hardly dialogue with the administration until 1990 as Glaspie
said:
http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html
GLASPIE: I have a direct instruction from the President to seek better
relations with Iraq.

but this didn't happen of course since Saddam was lying all along in his
interview and was about to invade Kuwait.

SOME PROOF to get you started:


The following is ALL propaganda lies links except for fas.org which is
merely some weasel (democrat surely) giving his ***** "opinion" and lies
about the US administration. All you spew is *****.

The international imports network and the German role between 1982 and
1990 (subhead)
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/iraq/cw/az120103.html
In early 1979, Iraq built the first factory to produce insecticides with
the help of Italian engineers. The factory was built in the region of
Akashat at a cost of $50 million. A security system was also built to
protect the factory that cost another $60 million. The building of this
factory experienced many problems, such as espionage attempts by the
Mosad, the Israeli intelligence service. The western companies that
dealt with the defunct regime -- for instance Australian and Dutch firms
-- exported a lot of materials related to this field of production. For
instance, the Dutch firm KBS sold Iraq large quantities of Thiodilyco
(name as transliterated), a material that is essential in the production
of mustard gas, at a cost of 1.5 million Marks. Multinational Italian
firms also supplied Iraq with 60 tons of Oxycklorure (name as
transliterated), a phosphoric material that is also used in chemical
industries that can be put to dual-use. As for the French companies,
they exported to Iraq large quantities of a gas (not further identified)
that can be used in warfare. This gas was exported across the borders
from Italy and Turkey. This transaction was concluded through the
mediation of the German Company Karl Kolb. A confidential report issued
on 21 August 1990 by Helmut Hossman (name as transliterated), the
Economy Minister of then West Germany, confirmed that the German
companies had the lion's share in these transactions. The report said
that since 1983, West German companies have exported to Iraq huge
quantities of raw materials, equipment, and small industrial factories
to produce poison gases. The report also said that these companies
participated directly in building the Sa'd Project, the Iraqi chemical
project, and the construction of the military complex in Al-Taji.

Why do you pollute our NG with your lies?


You're sounding really stupid around about now.


*sniff sniff*
I smell a debunking in the air ...
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