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Who is Kerry? (MEET THE PRESS - TODAY) Debunks all the lies fromweasels here! |
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MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
MR. RUSSERT: Well, how well does he know the American people if he's
trying to inject himself on the...
MR. GIULIANI: He probably doesn't know at all the American people. He
made critical mistakes. He thought when he attacked us on September 11,
2001, that we were going to cower, that we were going to back down.
And, in fact, we haven't. We've become stronger as a result of what
happened to us and more united. And I hope it's going to continue that
way after this election.
MR. RUSSERT: You mentioned John Kerry was critical of George Bush not
getting Osama bin Laden in Tora Bora. The Kerry campaign countered,
saying, "George Bush was informed of this tape early on Friday morning."
And for several consecutive campaign stops, he continued to criticize
John Kerry for not being up to the task of commander in chief, and only
when the tape was made public for everyone else did he change his tactics.
MR. GIULIANI: Well, I mean, the fact is the president has shown much
stronger leadership with regard to terrorism than John Kerry. I mean,
John Kerry has changed his position on the war maybe 12, 14 times. He's
changed his position on terrorism numerous times. He's voted against--I
mean, I find this absolutely mind-boggling for a man who wants to be
commander in chief in time of war--he voted against the Persian Gulf
War. When Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, John Kerry voted against it.
It didn't pass his global test. It even passed Syria's global test but
not his.
So these are very, very important issues. This is the end of the
campaign. The country has got to select the man they think is better
able to handle a wartime situation. And John Kerry has found himself
always on the side of being anti-war, anti-military--a whole career in
the United States Senate that he ignores in which he's voted against
military funding. During the Ronald Reagan era, he was against our
military. When he came back from Vietnam, he was against our military.
He was against the Persian Gulf War. He consistently attacks our
military now. He does it in the guise of attacking the leadership, but,
in fact, he's attacking the military, the same way he did after Vietnam.
MR. RUSSERT: He will say he voted for all major defense expenditures,
even ones that Secretary of Defense ***** Cheney wanted to cut.
MR. GIULIANI: Oh, I was in the Reagan administration. I remember one
of the strongest opponents of Ronald Reagan's buildup of our military,
which he had to do after President Carter, was John Kerry. One of the
biggest opponents of probably the thing that brought down the Soviet
Union--as Gorbachev says, Ronald Reagan spent him into oblivion, spent
the Soviet Union into oblivion. One of the biggest opponents of that was
John Kerry, and I remember that as if it were yesterday.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me turn it to consistency. After Osama bin Laden
attacked us, we heard George Bush saying, "We're going to get him. He
can run, but he can't hide. He's wanted dead or alive." And yet
October 22, here's Vice President ***** Cheney on the campaign trail.
(Videotape, October 22, 2004):
VICE PRES. ***** CHENEY: We haven't seen much of him.
Frankly because we think he's probably in a deep hole someplace and hiding.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: "He's in a deep hole hiding." He appeared on TV. And
President Bush, March 13, 2002--this is important. Let's watch.
(Videotape, March 13, 2002):
PRES. BUSH: And I don't know where he is. I'll repeat what I said. I
truly am not that concerned about him.
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: It's a much different tone than we heard the days after
September 11.
MR. GIULIANI: I think the point is that Osama bin Laden is very
different than he was before September 11 and on September 11. He's now
a person with three-quarters of his leadership either captured or killed
with a significant amount of his forces captured or killed. He is
displaced. He's not sitting there with nations-state support that he
had before. And instead of being able to attack us, thank God, now what
he's got to do is reduce himself to making some kind of political
documentary and repeating Michael Moore's criticisms. I mean, it is a
far different situation than what we faced before. So when people say,
"We're not safer now," yeah, we're not as safe as we would like to be.
We've got a long way to go. That's why we have to re-elect George Bush.
But the fact is we're in a lot different position.
You know, before September 11, he was capable of doing what he did a few
miles from here. Now, all that he's been reduced to is being on the run
with his forces dramatically reduced because of President Bush's policy,
because of the Bush doctrine. I mean, what President Bush has done is
to put us on offense against terrorism. We had previously been only on
defense, through a number of administrations, not just the Clinton
administration but through a number, and maybe for good reason because
we--I shouldn't say good reason but maybe because we didn't see the
danger as we should.
President Bush has understood that. John Kerry is still in a pre-9/11
mentality. He said that 9/11 didn't change him very much. He said he
wants to go back to when terrorism was just a nuance, meaning pre-9/11.
I don't know when the heck terrorism was just a nuisance. Was it just
a nuisance when they attacked the World Trade Center in 1993 and killed
people in my city in 1993? And John Kerry then proposed gutting our
intelligence budget, and Teddy Kennedy had to oppose it? I mean, he has
a pre-9/11 view, which is the reason why this country would be a lot
safer in dealing with bin Laden and the other terrorists with George
Bush sitting there. He understands the lessons of September 11. John
Kerry has consistently indicated he does not understand what happened to
this country. He's said it to The New York Times: "I wasn't changed
very much by 9/11." Bob Kerrey said he was changed very much by 9/11.
Different Kerrey, right?
MR. RUSSERT: When previous bin Laden tapes have been released, the
president never responded to them. In fact, the administration called
the networks and said, "Be careful about airing this because of
subliminal message and so forth." This time, the president chose to
answer directly to the American people. Was he trying to take advantage
of it politically?
MR. GIULIANI: No, I think the president gave a very judicious and very
statesmanlike answer, and what he said was, "This man should not affect
our election. I'm sure Senator Kerry would agree with me." I mean,
that's the only thing you could have said at a time like that. You
couldn't leave it unresponded to. John Kerry chose to immediately
politicize it and immediately criticize the president, the same way he
tried to criticize what happened in Tora Bora where he's totally
distorted the facts. We were using the elite unit of our Special Forces
in Tora Bora, and it's unclear as to whether or not Osama bin Laden was
there. We didn't outsource it. We had our elite unit of Special Forces
supervising that. We were using Afghan warriors that were tried and
tested and had been successful before, and then we don't know whether or
not he was there or he wasn't. Just like we don't know what happened to
the ammunition and the explosives that John Kerry is now complaining
about, which represents a very small portion of the explosives, 400,000,
that were actually seized and destroyed.
MR. RUSSERT: I want to talk to you about that because you were on the
"Today" show Thursday and asked about it. Here's your answer to the
question and we'll roll it.
(Videotape, Thursday, "Today"):
MR. GIULIANI: The president was cautious, the president was prudent,
the president did what a commander in chief should do, and no matter how
you try to blame it on the president, the actual responsibility for it
really would be for the troops that were there. Did they search
carefully enough? Didn't they search carefully enough?
(End videotape)
MR. RUSSERT: As soon as you uttered those words...
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, right. Boom.
MR. RUSSERT: ...John Edwards, vice presidential candidate, had this to
say: "George Bush sent his chief surrogate, Rudy Giuliani, out to defend
the president's incompetence, and Giuliani blamed the troops. He said
they didn't do their jobs. The Republicans couldn't be more wrong. Our
men and women in uniform did their jobs. It's our commander in chief,
George Bush, who didn't do his." Why did you say the actual
responsibility for it really would be for the troops?
MR. GIULIANI: Because I was talking about--if you listen to what I said
before that and what I said right after, I'm talking about John Kerry's
position. The point that I was making then, if I wasn't clear enough
then, I've been clear since then and I'm clear now, but I think I was
clear enough then, and they jumped on it. John Kerry is the one who is
blaming the troops. By blaming it on the commander in chief, blaming it
on the leadership and taking away credit from the troops, as I went on
to explain for the 400,000 tons of ammunition and explosives that
they've taken, and seizing on this 1 percent of 1 percent, he is blaming
it on them, on their performance. The same way he did when he came back
from Vietnam and exaggerated his complaints against our troops in
Vietnam. The same way as he did--as he's done about Tora Bora. This is
a consistent, over 20-year approach of John Kerry. The simple fact is
he's anti-war, he's anti-military, he is running away from that, and
then he gets himself into these complaints and blaming it on the troops.
That's what I said.
MR. RUSSERT: Mr. Mayor, Bob Kerrey was just here, a decorated war
veteran. He said he and John Kerry served in Vietnam, decorated heroes.
George Bush was in the Guard, ***** Cheney never served, you never
served. How can you criticize them for being anti-military?
MR. GIULIANI: Because you have to look at John Kerry's career since
Vietnam? All John Kerry wants to do is look at his service in Vietnam.
We respect him for that. We honor him for that. Whatever happens in
this election, I think he's going to always have an honored place in
history for the way he served our country in Vietnam. It's since he
came back from Vietnam that John Kerry turned against his soldiers, his
colleagues in Vietnam. Nobody else did that. He's the one who turned
against them.
He printed a book with the American flag, his name on it, the American
flag turned upside down. A book, by the way, that you have to pay
$1,000 to get because it's out of circulation. He turned against us in
the war--in the Persian Gulf War. He voted consistently against defense
programs, one of the most ardent critics of Ronald Reagan, and he's
taken 14 different positions on this war in Iraq. That's the record
since Vietnam.
The reason why John Kerry doesn't talk about the period of time between
his Vietnam service and today is because he's had a consistent record of
being anti-military, anti-defense, anti-intelligence services, and now
he's trying to do the best that he can to reconcile all those positions,
and that's why he's described as, I guess, a flip-flopper or a person
who changes positions.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you the Bush-Cheney administration record in
terms of the economy. Since inauguration day, the unemployment rate has
gone from 4.2 percent to 5.4 percent. That's up 28.5 percent. Jobs,
there's been a net loss of 900,000 jobs. We went from a $281 billion
surplus to a $412 billion deficit. And our national debt has gone from
$5.7 trillion to $7.4 trillion, up 29 percent. Why should the American
people rehire a CEO with that kind of economic record?
MR. GIULIANI: Because President Bush has taken us through maybe one of
the worst things that's ever happened to us, the attack of September 11.
The human toll in that is incalculable and indescribable, but the
effect on our economy was dramatic. We lost over a million jobs as a
result of these attacks that took place. Our economy was going through
bad times when the president took over.
You have to look at what's been going on in the last 13 months. Since
President Bush's tax cuts have had an impact on our economy, which has
been a very favorable one, last 13 months, every single month, economic
growth, some of the strongest economic growth we've had in 20 years. A
million jobs, a million seven now added to our economy since we've
turned it around. President Bush has turned our economy around. The tax
cuts, putting money back into the hands of the American people, putting
it back into their pockets so they can spend it is the reason for that.
John Kerry would raise taxes. He's voted to raise taxes throughout his
Senate career. I think your record tells you more about what you're
going to do when you go into office than the promises that you make,
which sometimes are inconsistent in the case of Kerry, and I think he
will imperil that recovery by raising taxes. George Bush followed the
policies of John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan. John Kennedy and Ronald
Reagan instituted two of the biggest tax cuts we ever had in our history
and we had economic growth.
MR. RUSSERT: Do you agree with Senator Kerrey...
MR. GIULIANI: John Kerry disagrees with that. He wants to raise taxes.
MR. RUSSERT: Do you agree with Bob Kerrey that no matter who's elected,
he's going to have a hard time governing, and he has to move to the center?
MR. GIULIANI: When I heard Bob Kerrey speak before, I said, "That's the
thing we agree on." I think that's absolutely correct. I think that
the next president--I hope the next president will be the same
president, George Bush. But however it turns out, we're Americans; we
have to get together. I think going to the center is exactly right. If
it's the president, you've got to get some Democratic support, you've
got to bring some Democrats into the Cabinet, as he's done. And if it's
a Democrat, it has to work the other way.
We've got to get back to the days in which we had unity on foreign
policy. I saw that after September 11. I mean, I saw Republicans and
Democrats standing next to me, helping me, helping my city--the
president, Democrats and others. We've got to bring back that spirit.
And you know something? We're going to do it. We always do. I mean,
Americans get together. We looked at that Osama bin Laden tape, put the
politics aside and we said, you know, "We're not going to let this man
determine our elections. We're stronger than that, we're better than
that." And I know we're going to get together.
MR. RUSSERT: Ten seconds. You're for George Bush because?
MR. GIULIANI: I'm for George Bush because he's a strong, determined
leader. He's taken our country through the worst attacks in our history.
I believe he's going to be a great president when history looks upon
this because of the way he took us through the worst things that have
happened to us. He's revived our economy; he's going to continue to do
this. And I'll tell you the other reason I'm for him: I know him.
This is a really, really good man and a strong man, and we sure as heck
need that now.
MR. RUSSERT: Rudy Giuliani, we thank you for your views.
MR. GIULIANI: Thank you.
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In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
... gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
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In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US
forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Yep, but there is still no conspiracy at all to mislead the American people
right? Are a lot of American really this ignorant about the Hermann Goring
Doctrine? Do most of the Americans really believe that OBL could just
attack America without the knowledge of the government? Look again at
the videos where Bush attended this school and was informed about the
attack, there you don't see a president in shock, there you see a president
who knew what was coming.
History just repeated itself. In 1933 the fire of the Reichstag in Berlin
Germany where nazis started the fire and then blaming the communists.
On 9/11 the attack on the WTC. It is all the same thing. The ruling class
want fear in the masses and according to the Hermann Goring doctrine
in America they apparently succeeded
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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01 Nov 2004 08:41:40 AM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> schreef in bericht
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In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US
forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Yep, but there is still no conspiracy at all to mislead the American people
right?
Of course there aren't. This is ONLY in your paranoid little freak out mind.
Are a lot of American really this ignorant about the Hermann Goring
Doctrine?
Nazi Germany connection ONLY in your paranoid little freak out mind.
Do most of the Americans really believe that OBL could just
attack America without the knowledge of the government?
Of course since it is the case. Again, stupid conspiracy lies are ONLY
in your paranoid little freak out mind.
Look again at
the videos where Bush attended this school and was informed about the
attack, there you don't see a president in shock, there you see a president
who knew what was coming.
Liar, he is only collecting his thoughts for 5 minutes. It doesn'T
compare to Kerry who couldn't think for 45 minutes according to his own
account, You are like Moore who makes up stuff from where there is
nothing, this is ONLY in your paranoid little freak out mind.
History just repeated itself. In 1933 the fire of the Reichstag in Berlin
Germany where nazis started the fire and then blaming the communists.
ONLY in your paranoid little freak out mind.
On 9/11 the attack on the WTC. It is all the same thing. The ruling class
want fear in the masses and according to the Hermann Goring doctrine
in America they apparently succeeded
ONLY in your paranoid little freak out mind.
The proof that Bush doctrine works is that Binny feels so powerless he
is willing to offer a truce.
God forbid the dems would have been in power.
J.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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Woodswun a écrit:
In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
He doesn't say that, anywhere in the article. Maybe you care to read it
again. oh, you change the subject, I see. Problem is that YOU make that up.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Typical of you Woods.
J.
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
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Woodswun a écrit:
In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US
forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
He doesn't say that, anywhere in the article. Maybe you care to read it
again. oh, you change the subject, I see. Problem is that YOU make that
up.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Typical of you Woods.
Most of the hijackers in the planes were Saoudies, not Afganies! But the
latter needed to be bombed right? To catch OBL? No, he is very useful
for the USA goverment. He is useful in order to construct the Hermann
Goring doctrine in the USA by the fascist cliques carrying out the plans
of 33° degree freemason Albert Pike. The Taleban was just removed
because they refused to contruct an oilpipe from the Caspian Sea through
Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean. That was why the Taleban was attacked
and removed from the Afghan government. If they had agreed to contruct
the pipe they would still be in office.
Kind Regards,
Barbarossa
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"Barbarossa" <fa073505@skynet.be> wrote in message news:<418527f6$0$30705$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be>...
Most of the hijackers in the planes were Saoudies, not Afganies!
Saoudies, not Afganies? Is that a new race of people?
But the
latter needed to be bombed right?
Why would you want to bomb two races that have not been identified
yet? Is all part of the BarbaraBogus plan?
To catch OBL? No, he is very useful
He is? How so? Because ya think he hasn't caused enough damage yet?
You are one sick mutha ;)
for the USA goverment. He is useful
Well you are talking about only 1/2 of America - sure he usual to the
left and John Kerry.
in order to construct the Hermann
Goring doctrine in the USA by the fascist cliques carrying out the plans
of 33° degree freemason Albert Pike.
Is that the same as the Mickey Mouse / Donald Duck duo plan? I heard
that was a Whopper, but the King didn't supersize it yet ;)
The Taleban was just removed
When, today? I missed that one - I was watching the election coverage.
CARE TO elaborate? ;) I didn't know that Jack was out of the Box?
:>)
because they refused to contruct an oilpipe from the Caspian Sea through
Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean.
*contruct* an oilpipe ? What the hell are those? Did you hear Snapple
grabed that line and will funnel in trillions of
Cherry/Watermelon/hotdog flavored drinks to all the water unquenched
nomads wandering the Isfahan's Bazaar?
That was why the Taleban was attacked
So they prefer, Country Time lemonade- Ohh I see ;) It's that
preference war again, isn't it?
and removed from the Afghan government. If they had agreed to contruct
the pipe they would still be in office.
Can you *contruct* a simple grammatical correct sentence please?
Kind Regards,
How so? Stumping for the Taliban again are ya?
Barbarossa
Bush :-.)
--
A Saturday Night skit in a commercial was so funny because they blame
Bush for the autumn season. The commercial went like this: ''There is
a environmental disaster looming all over the Northern hemisphere,
something is happening to our trees, they are becoming sick and all
there leaves are turning brown and falling off. This was President
Bush's fault . ''
Sponsored by the Democrats for America ;)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Can you *contruct* a simple grammatical correct sentence please?
Oh the irony...
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"tw" <no@no.com> wrote in message
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"Michael Johnathan McDonald" <abookoflife@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Can you *contruct* a simple grammatical correct sentence please?
Oh the irony...
As you know, Mikey has an obsession with correcting others'
grammar--except his own, of course. When his grammatical mistakes are
pointed out, he denies them, or attempts to explain them in a most
incredulous manner. This is the trademark of a juvenile personality. You
know how it went when we were kids or teens. We'd be shouting at each
other, then someone would invariably make a mispronunciation, which would
then be immediately ridiculed...and that would add more heat to the
argument. When Mikey hates, he hates completely, senselessly. This is a
man who has numerous serious personality flaws, is unable to admit he's
ever wrong about anything, and creates a surreal world of his own at his
website where anyone slightly left of extreme right is at the core of the
world's evils.
A pathetic, restless, arrogant and stupid little man who has little
intellect, but sports a very big mouth.
Doc
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02 Nov 2004 10:45:10 AM |
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Michael Johnathan McDonald wrote:
Can you *contruct* a simple grammatical correct sentence please?
Construct?
/Grammatically correct/ would've been grammatically correct.
Perhaps you forgot the punctuation that would've improved it
*slightly*:
Can you construct a simple, grammatical, correct sentence please?
Hint: Our greenhouse dwelling "tard" would do better remaining
uncritical of others grammar, *especially* those surpassing with a
second language the aforesaid "tard" with his first.
-A
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"Absolute Zero" <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Michael Johnathan McDonald wrote:
Can you *contruct* a simple grammatical correct sentence please?
Construct?
/Grammatically correct/ would've been grammatically correct.
Perhaps you forgot the punctuation that would've improved it
*slightly*:
Can you construct a simple, grammatical, correct sentence please?
Hint: Our greenhouse dwelling "tard" would do better remaining
uncritical of others grammar, *especially* those surpassing with a
second language the aforesaid "tard" with his first.
-A
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Barbarossa a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> schreef in bericht
news:yw9hd.4258656$6p.706262@news.easynews.com...
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US
forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
He doesn't say that, anywhere in the article. Maybe you care to read it
again. oh, you change the subject, I see. Problem is that YOU make that
up.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Typical of you Woods.
Most of the hijackers in the planes were Saoudies, not Afganies!
Their nationalities has NOTHING to do with it. They were AlQaeda. The
headquarters of AlQaeda was in Afghanistan. Well, except they were butt
buddies of Binny. The "chosen ones", LOL. Their hegemony there has been
destroyed now anyway. Binny makes threats on this election about voters
because he cannot operate with Bush around and expect Kerry to bring
back troops that fight him in Iraq. He wants Kerry. Of course kerry has
not laid out any plan except to say he has a even, if he criticizes Bush
who laid it out. Binny is taking the gamble that Kerry really has no
clue. i hope we don't get to find out whether he was right or not.
We will soon know.
J.
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In article <yw9hd.4258656$6p.706262@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
He doesn't say that, anywhere in the article. Maybe you care to read it
again. oh, you change the subject, I see. Problem is that YOU make that up.
Nope. Check the timeline. We knew osama was in the mountainous region
bordering Pakistan and didn't even start looking there for several months.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Nope, not lies. It's STANDARD for the FBI to interview family members of a
suspect, but they never got the opportunity. Meanwhile, many of them attended
the wedding of one of Osama's kids - hardly in keeping with the lie that they
had "nothing to do with [Osama]" that Bush keeps touting.
Oh, and if you think Giuliani is such a great American, keep in mind that he's
come out and blamed the understaffed soldiers, who were following orders, for
the loss of the weapons material that went missing after the US unsealed it.
See http://1010wins.com/topstories/winstopstories_story_302174510.html
(Read it now, I'm not going back in 3 months to dig it up for you).
Woods
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(Woodswun) wrote in message news:<6jchd.32792$JS4.29912@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
In article <yw9hd.4258656$6p.706262@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
He doesn't say that, anywhere in the article. Maybe you care to read it
again. oh, you change the subject, I see. Problem is that YOU make that up.
Nope. Check the timeline. We knew osama was in the mountainous region
bordering Pakistan and didn't even start looking there for several months.
Look the Soviet Army had ten years in the mountains, a long time, to
get ol' terrorist tard, but couldn't Woods. That is how hard it was.
And these are kids. Yes, like JKeerry said we did out source some
operations which I do not agree to but that doesn't mean to stop?
These were young kids in a new region and a hard one at that. Even if
Jkerry was the head military commander of that operation he would face
the same difficulties as the General. Yet, you would not know this
because you believe Bush is everywhere all at once running everything
simultaneously?
The other option is tactical nukes and no country at this point in
history wants to use any to make a point. If the 'We' in your response
is so damn cocky, you should begin to go to Military boards and start
discussing how to take him (Usama) out - because we know he is in Pak.
Mountains. Maybe you can study the geography and give recommendations
to our military leaders on how to do it. ;) Me, on the other hand,
thinks our troops have done a wonderful job. Usama is HURT and living
in the mountains where the snow is starting to fall being watched and
his unit the al 'Qaedas have been decimated to almost 1/4 the level
they were before the WOT. This is why he released a pro-Kerry plea a
few days before the US elections. He wants Bush out because bush is
HURTING HIM BADLY.
He thinks any other option other than Bush will be better.
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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Nope. Check the timeline. We knew osama was in the mountainous region
bordering Pakistan and didn't even start looking there for several months.
Fucking anti-semite peice of terrorist ***** licking *****. Go drown your
self.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Nope, not lies. It's STANDARD for the FBI to interview family members of
a
suspect, but they never got the opportunity. Meanwhile, many of them
attended
the wedding of one of Osama's kids - hardly in keeping with the lie that
they
had "nothing to do with [Osama]" that Bush keeps touting.
Lie. You lick the ***** of Osama. Tsss tss. I am an exegete, you pollute my
news group with your lies. Tss tss. Typical of anti-semite terrorist *****
lickers.
Oh, and if you think Giuliani is such a great American, keep in mind that
he's
come out and blamed the understaffed soldiers, who were following orders,
for
the loss of the weapons material that went missing after the US unsealed
it.
See http://1010wins.com/topstories/winstopstories_story_302174510.html
(Read it now, I'm not going back in 3 months to dig it up for you).
Woods
***** you and your anti-semite lies. You lick the ***** of terrorists.
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01 Nov 2004 11:53:11 AM |
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funny the first time, but still idiotic.
J.
Aidan a écrit:
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
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Nope. Check the timeline. We knew osama was in the mountainous region
bordering Pakistan and didn't even start looking there for several months.
Fucking anti-semite peice of terrorist ***** licking *****. Go drown your
self.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Nope, not lies. It's STANDARD for the FBI to interview family members of
a
suspect, but they never got the opportunity. Meanwhile, many of them
attended
the wedding of one of Osama's kids - hardly in keeping with the lie that
they
had "nothing to do with [Osama]" that Bush keeps touting.
Lie. You lick the ***** of Osama. Tsss tss. I am an exegete, you pollute my
news group with your lies. Tss tss. Typical of anti-semite terrorist *****
lickers.
Oh, and if you think Giuliani is such a great American, keep in mind that
he's
come out and blamed the understaffed soldiers, who were following orders,
for
the loss of the weapons material that went missing after the US unsealed
it.
See http://1010wins.com/topstories/winstopstories_story_302174510.html
(Read it now, I'm not going back in 3 months to dig it up for you).
Woods
***** you and your anti-semite lies. You lick the ***** of terrorists.
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01 Nov 2004 09:58:21 AM |
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Woodswun a écrit:
In article <yw9hd.4258656$6p.706262@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Woodswun a écrit:
In article <q78hd.4254620$6p.705727@news.easynews.com>, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6362470/
MR. RUSSERT: We are back at Democracy Plaza, Midtown Manhattan, the
site of NBC's election coverage on Tuesday night. We are joined by the
former mayor of New York City, Rudy Giuliani, representing the Bush
campaign.
Welcome.
FMR. MAYOR RUDY GIULIANI, (R-NY): Thank you, Tim.
MR. RUSSERT: Let me show you Osama bin Laden. He was addressing the
world and the nation on Friday, and he said this: "Your security is not
in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al Qaeda. Your security is in your own
hands, and each state that does not harm our security will remain safe."
He's not supporting Bush or Kerry. He's telling America that it's the
policy that's the problem.
MR. GIULIANI: Yeah, I think that's correct and I think it has to be
treated that way. I think Americans have to unite and this should not
be a partisan political issue. I think President Bush reacted to it
exactly the right way. He said, "I'm sure Senator Kerry joins me in
saying that this man should have no influence in our election," and then
John Kerry turned right around and tried to politicize it, and tried to
make the point, well, he hasn't been captured, he hasn't been this, he
hasn't been that.
Well, the fact is, and if you want to be clear about the rest of the
statement, bin Laden--he certainly didn't say he was in favor of John
Kerry and I'm sure he's not but he certainly wants George Bush out of
the White House. He went on and repeated Michael Moore's diatribe
against President Bush, almost word for word, as if he had watched that
movie and been influenced by it in some way, and he makes the point, he
talks about George Bush lying and things like that, almost things coming
out of a political campaign. So, I mean, I think that bin Laden should
be discounted in this election. But there's no question that he very
much opposes George Bush, and I think there's a reason for that, because
the man's on the run.
I mean, if he would ask me on September 11, 2001, just a few miles away
from here when I watched that attack orchestrated by him, by bin Laden,
I would have said this country is going to be attacked multiple times
since then--from then until now. I think we are going to be attacked
again. I hope not, I pray not, but we haven't been, and part of the
reason is the very, very effective policy of this government, which
President Bush turned around on a dime and created an offensive against
terrorism. He's put them on defense and he's put us on offense and bin
Laden having to communicate in that fashion is a lot better than where
he was pre-9/11 and on September 11.
MR. RUSSERT: Are you suggesting if John Kerry wins, bin Laden will take
credit?
MR. GIULIANI: No, absolutely not. I have no idea what his position is
on John Kerry. He didn't say it, and I would imagine, you know, he has
no interest in who wins. I do think he has an interest in who loses,
and that's one of the reasons he put in all those criticisms of
President Bush--and for good reason, because President Bush has put him
on defense. President Bush...
.. gave Osama Bin Laden a couple months head start to retreat from US forces,
and also allowed his family members to leave the US before the FBI could
question them about him.
Woods
He doesn't say that, anywhere in the article. Maybe you care to read it
again. oh, you change the subject, I see. Problem is that YOU make that up.
Nope. Check the timeline. We knew osama was in the mountainous region
bordering Pakistan and didn't even start looking there for several months.
Another lie. There were accounts of him being elsewhere as well, no one
know for sure and what they thought they knew they did their darnest to
blow him up to smithereens if you would recall properly.
The fact is that saying he was possibly in Tora Bora, a region as big as
Texas, even though he was also reported to be in several other
locations, doesn't mean they knew where he was precisely. This has been
debunked by all the commanders on the ground. This is a dems lie against
their country for mere political purposes.
And it only attacks the US military, it doesn't even have anything to do
with the prez, although it is a blatant lie.
The Bin Laden family had nothing to do with the ***** and you know
it. Bush went after binny right after 9-11 as they were already trying
to get him. But you prefer to wallow in Moores' lies rather than accept
reality because you hate the SANE administration of your country and
want to replace it using LIES.
Nope, not lies. It's STANDARD for the FBI to interview family members of a
suspect, but they never got the opportunity. Meanwhile, many of them attended
the wedding of one of Osama's kids - hardly in keeping with the lie that they
had "nothing to do with [Osama]" that Bush keeps touting.
More lies by Michael Moore debunked by the 9-11 commission.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ask/20040702.html
sarah, from georgia writes:
What is the response to Michael Moore's film, "Fahrenheit 911", showing
there was special permission given for 142 people, including members of
the Bin Laden family to fly out of the country two days after 911 while
the rest of the country was forbidden to fly?
Richard Armitage
I did not see the film so I can't comment on it. There were certain
people from Saudi Arabia who left after 9/11 and my understanding is
that the bi-partisan commission who is investigating 9/11 found nothing
untoward in this departure.
Oh, and if you think Giuliani is such a great American, keep in mind that he's
come out and blamed the understaffed soldiers, who were following orders, for
the loss of the weapons material that went missing after the US unsealed it.
See http://1010wins.com/topstories/winstopstories_story_302174510.html
(Read it now, I'm not going back in 3 months to dig it up for you).
Ha, yes, YOU read it, it says:
In a morning television appearance, Giuliani criticized Democrat John
Kerry for blaming Bush for the disappearance of hundreds of tons of
explosives in Iraq.
"No matter how you try to blame it on the president, the actual
responsibility for it really would be for the troops that were there.
Did they search carefully enough?" he said on NBC's "Today" show.
Which is what I also think. There is no question of number of troops
anywhere in the article.
Now, we don't even know yet if there is any missing stuff from after the
invasion that has not been destroyed so it is too early to blame anyone
if blame can be assigned, the pentagon found out that maybe well over
half has been destroyed in a single operation, and it is still looking
into it. We have to wait for further development before there is blame
but indeed, one thing is for sure, Guliiani is right, this is under
military supervision, the prez is not to blame.
Anything else your weasels friends make up, that I can debunk to the bone?
J.
Woods
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01 Nov 2004 08:02:10 PM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<x2thd.4305262$6p.712730@news.easynews.com>...
Woodswun a écrit:
Anything else your weasels friends make up, that I can debunk to the bone?
A Saturday Night skit in a commercial was so funny because they blame
Bush for the autumn season. The commercial went like this: ''There is
a environmental disaster looming all over the Northern hemisphere,
something is happening to our trees, they are becoming sick and all
there leaves are turning brown and falling off. This was President
Bush's fault . ''
Sponsored by the Democrats for America ;)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha
J.
Woods
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01 Nov 2004 10:06:06 AM |
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You still here Guernon? I'd have thought you'd have had the sense to
dissappear as fast as your credibility did.. THen again, sense isn't
something you've displayed before is it?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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02 Nov 2004 10:51:58 AM |
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Still in the closet tw? Holocaust skeletons don't bother you too much?
LOL
J.
tw a écrit:
You still here Guernon? I'd have thought you'd have had the sense to
dissappear as fast as your credibility did.. THen again, sense isn't
something you've displayed before is it?
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| User: "tw" |
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02 Nov 2004 11:04:58 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:OWOhd.4359872$6p.719960@news.easynews.com...
Still in the closet tw? Holocaust skeletons don't bother you too much?
Have you been hittiing your bong again doper? You're making even less sense
than usual.
LOL
ROFLOL!
J.
tw a écrit:
You still here Guernon? I'd have thought you'd have had the sense to
dissappear as fast as your credibility did.. THen again, sense isn't
something you've displayed before is it?
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