Michel de Nostredame (1503-66), later known as Nostradamus, was one of the
leading lights of the late French Renaissance. A Jewish-French contemporary
of Paracelsus and England's Dr John Dee, he is often supposed to have been
(from 1530) at medical college with Rabelais: however, he is known to have
been expelled again from the student body at Montpellier for having, as an
apothecary, been rude about doctors, so this is at best uncertain. He was
certainly much admired by the poet Ronsard. As a physician (qualified or
not) he came to specialise in the Plague, on which he was recognised to be
one of the foremost experts: in his Traité des fardemens, though, (see
below) he frankly admits that none of his cures actually had much effect on
the disease - not even the blood-letting that some commentators insist that
he never used. He was also famed somewhat as an 'astrologer', even though
his competence clearly left much to be desired, but he preferred to call
himself an 'astrophile', or 'star-lover'. On his semi-retirement in around
1550 he turned to writing. Apart from a highly popular cookbook (actually, a
'Treatise on Cosmetics and Conserves') and a number of academic works, his
main fields were astrology and prophecy. This brought him into great public
prominence, and he became particularly influential at the French court. He
also invested heavily in local public works - notably the irrigation of the
vast Plaine de la Crau just to the west of his adopted home-town of
Salon-de-Provence, a scheme whose results (like his house in the town)can
still be seen today. Twice married, he had two children by his first wife
Henriette d'Encausse (all three died) and six by his second (three sons, of
whom the eldest was César [b.1554], and three daughters).
http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1
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22 Feb 2004 12:06:00 PM |
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So you can copy stuff from Lemesurier's website. Big deal.
J.
Mark a écrit:
Michel de Nostredame (1503-66), later known as Nostradamus, was one of the
leading lights of the late French Renaissance. A Jewish-French contemporary
of Paracelsus and England's Dr John Dee, he is often supposed to have been
(from 1530) at medical college with Rabelais: however, he is known to have
been expelled again from the student body at Montpellier for having, as an
apothecary, been rude about doctors, so this is at best uncertain. He was
certainly much admired by the poet Ronsard. As a physician (qualified or
not) he came to specialise in the Plague, on which he was recognised to be
one of the foremost experts: in his Traité des fardemens, though, (see
below) he frankly admits that none of his cures actually had much effect on
the disease - not even the blood-letting that some commentators insist that
he never used. He was also famed somewhat as an 'astrologer', even though
his competence clearly left much to be desired, but he preferred to call
himself an 'astrophile', or 'star-lover'. On his semi-retirement in around
1550 he turned to writing. Apart from a highly popular cookbook (actually, a
'Treatise on Cosmetics and Conserves') and a number of academic works, his
main fields were astrology and prophecy. This brought him into great public
prominence, and he became particularly influential at the French court. He
also invested heavily in local public works - notably the irrigation of the
vast Plaine de la Crau just to the west of his adopted home-town of
Salon-de-Provence, a scheme whose results (like his house in the town)can
still be seen today. Twice married, he had two children by his first wife
Henriette d'Encausse (all three died) and six by his second (three sons, of
whom the eldest was César [b.1554], and three daughters).
http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1
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22 Feb 2004 04:12:03 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:cc6_b.8951179$Id.1491575@news.easynews.com...
So you can copy stuff from Lemesurier's website. Big deal.
Any arguement about the validity of the information?
Inquiring minds want to know...
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22 Feb 2004 02:21:43 PM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
So you can copy stuff from Lemesurier's website. Big deal.
J.
I should add that we can see here that, after being debunked to the bone with
his absollute assertions about the Seer, at least, Lemesurier seems to make the
proper nuances between the seer's qualifications and his opinion of him, which
eh still doesn,t spare us from. But he now tempers them by not making them
dogma... He learns he has to moderate himself because it is the world that judge
him, if when he pesists when debunked. Too bad that because of you he won't be
anymore. Not that I care. Au contraire.
But you would benefit by learning from this (albeit ephemeral) example.
J.
Mark a écrit:
Michel de Nostredame (1503-66), later known as Nostradamus, was one of
the
leading lights of the late French Renaissance. A Jewish-French
contemporary
of Paracelsus and England's Dr John Dee, he is often supposed to have
been
(from 1530) at medical college with Rabelais: however, he is known to
have
been expelled again from the student body at Montpellier for having,
as an
apothecary, been rude about doctors, so this is at best uncertain. He was
certainly much admired by the poet Ronsard. As a physician (qualified or
not) he came to specialise in the Plague, on which he was recognised
to be
one of the foremost experts: in his Traité des fardemens, though, (see
below) he frankly admits that none of his cures actually had much
effect on
the disease - not even the blood-letting that some commentators insist
that
he never used. He was also famed somewhat as an 'astrologer', even though
his competence clearly left much to be desired, but he preferred to call
himself an 'astrophile', or 'star-lover'. On his semi-retirement in
around
1550 he turned to writing. Apart from a highly popular cookbook
(actually, a
'Treatise on Cosmetics and Conserves') and a number of academic works,
his
main fields were astrology and prophecy. This brought him into great
public
prominence, and he became particularly influential at the French
court. He
also invested heavily in local public works - notably the irrigation
of the
vast Plaine de la Crau just to the west of his adopted home-town of
Salon-de-Provence, a scheme whose results (like his house in the town)can
still be seen today. Twice married, he had two children by his first wife
Henriette d'Encausse (all three died) and six by his second (three
sons, of
whom the eldest was César [b.1554], and three daughters).
http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1
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| User: "Mark" |
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22 Feb 2004 04:24:44 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:rb8_b.9049071$Of.1487768@news.easynews.com...
I should add that we can see here that, after being debunked to the bone
with
his absollute assertions about the Seer, at least, Lemesurier seems to
make the
proper nuances between the seer's qualifications and his opinion of him,
which
eh still doesn,t spare us from. But he now tempers them by not making them
dogma... He learns he has to moderate himself because it is the world that
judge
him, if when he pesists when debunked. Too bad that because of you he
won't be
anymore. Not that I care. Au contraire.
True... in fact it is a very difficult task to seperate ones 'self' from a
translation... or for that matter any preconcieved notion.
Those that can do so are to be admired...
We've all learned alot in the last half decade or so...
Would you believe that this post came from an archive I've kept of YOUR
site... many, many years ago?
But you would benefit by learning from this (albeit ephemeral) example.
Heh, heh... the ONLY constant in THIS Universe IS the ephemeral!
But I wish to continue to continue to post the FAQs... one subject at a
time... and I certainly welcome your oppinion or any disagreement on
questionable content or material.
I mean, that's what usenet is all about, eh?
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| User: "Jean Guernon" |
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23 Feb 2004 12:54:32 AM |
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Mark a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:rb8_b.9049071$Of.1487768@news.easynews.com...
I should add that we can see here that, after being debunked to the bone
with
his absollute assertions about the Seer, at least, Lemesurier seems to
make the
proper nuances between the seer's qualifications and his opinion of him,
which
eh still doesn,t spare us from. But he now tempers them by not making them
dogma... He learns he has to moderate himself because it is the world that
judge
him, if when he pesists when debunked. Too bad that because of you he
won't be
anymore. Not that I care. Au contraire.
True... in fact it is a very difficult task to seperate ones 'self' from a
translation... or for that matter any preconcieved notion.
Those that can do so are to be admired...
We've all learned alot in the last half decade or so...
Would you believe that this post came from an archive I've kept of YOUR
site... many, many years ago?
Err? Are you saying that this reference:
"http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1 " is an hoax?
Or are you saying that Lemesurier's site is maintained by you, and/or contains
old stuff that he really does disregard?
Very surprising.
But you would benefit by learning from this (albeit ephemeral) example.
Heh, heh... the ONLY constant in THIS Universe IS the ephemeral!
But I wish to continue to continue to post the FAQs... one subject at a
time... and I certainly welcome your oppinion or any disagreement on
questionable content or material.
I mean, that's what usenet is all about, eh?
Funny that you get to have a change of heart here after you had just accuse me
of beign responsible for the losers who parasite this NG, which really are the
sole responsibility of your friends who brought them here despite my opposition
at every level, and pretending that I told everyone to go to hell making it my
personal group when in fact it was only those losers that parasite this NG that
were targetted. No SERIOUS exegete here, and I except of course Lemesurier and
Latrémouille, can say that I excluded them from this NG... anyway, why do I even
bother telling you what is obvious to anyone who belongs here.
The fact is that playing your game, albeit we can see it is not the case here,
has always led to the frustration of any effort, and confrontation with your
opiniatrity to demean any legitimate opinion. You lack the fundamental honesty
to debate serious matters on this NG, like the prophecies are. Why should I
trust you for one post when you are going to be part of the dogs on the next?
J.
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| User: "Mark" |
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23 Feb 2004 08:39:27 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Ish_b.9088690$Of.1494633@news.easynews.com...
Would you believe that this post came from an archive I've kept of YOUR
site... many, many years ago?
Err? Are you saying that this reference:
"http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1 " is an hoax?
Or are you saying that Lemesurier's site is maintained by you, and/or
contains
old stuff that he really does disregard?
Very surprising.
The reference:
http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1
is where the FAQs for this newsgroup are currently stored... but the first
parts have changed little since you were charged with their safe keeping
several years ago. You were trusted with them at one time.
But I wish to continue to continue to post the FAQs... one subject at a
time... and I certainly welcome your opinion or any disagreement on
questionable content or material.
I mean, that's what Usenet is all about, eh?
Funny that you get to have a change of heart here after you had just
accuse me
of beign responsible for the losers who parasite this NG,
You are partially responsible for the current chaos... you must admit some
culpability, eh?
which really are the
sole responsibility of your friends who brought them here despite my
opposition
at every level,
That is not the way I recall events...
I have conversed at some length with many faceless posters that I have met
here... and many I do consider friends... but many no longer post here.
:(
and pretending that I told everyone to go to hell making it my
personal group when in fact it was only those losers that parasite this NG
that
were targetted.
Ahhh... it didn't seem you made any distinction as to whom was being
targeted.
It seemed a blanket statement to all...
No SERIOUS exegete here, and I except of course Lemesurier and
Latrémouille, can say that I excluded them from this NG... anyway, why do
I even
bother telling you what is obvious to anyone who belongs here.
This is your opinion of course... these are the facts as you recall them.
I have facts as I recall them...
I recall that only posting those things with which only agreed with your
tastes and opinion would not incur your wrath.
As an example; I'm not an anti-semite... I don't eat *****... and I'm not a
terrorist sympathizer.
The fact is that playing your game, albeit we can see it is not the case
here,
has always led to the frustration of any effort, and confrontation with
your
opiniatrity to demean any legitimate opinion.
I will support any legitimate opinion on the Seer... but I seem to suffer
from an innate inability to not ask questions.
I've told you this before, and I repeat... I'm not too bright.
Sometimes I need things explained to me... expecially when they seem a bit
extraordinary.
You lack the fundamental honesty
to debate serious matters on this NG, like the prophecies are.
Like many here, I've come here to learn... not participate in incessant
debate.
We are allowed to ask questions, are we not?
May we not ask the source or meaning of certain words?
May we not question the context?
May we not ask why the cadence isn't supported?
May we not question the use of a comma, a period, or an exclamation point?
May we not ask "What did Nosty mean by THAT?!?"
Why should I
trust you for one post when you are going to be part of the dogs on the
next?
I'm not asking for your trust... I'm here seeking insight to the Seer.
I respect your knowledge of the Seer... your knowledge of French... the men
you have worked with in the past... I've enough respect to seek your opinion
on some of these matters.
That doesn't mean I must agree with your Politics.
It doesn't mean I will condone your scatological references.
It certainly doesn't mean I will lick your boots for information, or shy
from you when you attack another who is, like me, only wishing to learn
intimate details of the Seer of Salon.
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23 Feb 2004 09:24:17 PM |
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Mark a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:Ish_b.9088690$Of.1494633@news.easynews.com...
Would you believe that this post came from an archive I've kept of YOUR
site... many, many years ago?
Err? Are you saying that this reference:
"http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1 " is an hoax?
Or are you saying that Lemesurier's site is maintained by you, and/or
contains
old stuff that he really does disregard?
Very surprising.
The reference:
http://www.nostradamus500.com/GenFAQs.htm#1
is where the FAQs for this newsgroup are currently stored... but the first
parts have changed little since you were charged with their safe keeping
several years ago. You were trusted with them at one time.
These are Lemesurier's FAQs.
But I wish to continue to continue to post the FAQs... one subject at a
time... and I certainly welcome your opinion or any disagreement on
questionable content or material.
I mean, that's what Usenet is all about, eh?
Funny that you get to have a change of heart here after you had just
accuse me
of beign responsible for the losers who parasite this NG,
You are partially responsible for the current chaos... you must admit some
culpability, eh?
ONLY in your dreams.
J.
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