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User: "Mark Tyme"
Date: 14 Dec 2003 05:33:15 PM
Object: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place?
Your CIA put Saddam into power
You supplied him with $4 billion in 1988, which he used to build up
his military.
You said nothing for 20 years, while he was torturing and brutalizing
his own people. Now you are torturing and brutalizing them.
You sold him WMD. Cheney and Rumsfeld, in fact, went to Baghdad
in 1988 to cut the deals. There are numerous articles, and photographs
of that trip. The inventory of WMD's the US sold Iraq is massive, and
includes biological weapons agents, equipment for making chemical
weapons, and equipment and technology that could be used to build
nuclear weapons, and missiles.
You capture him now, after all that you've done to the world.
You may put him on trial, put him in a cage like a monkey,
or even kill him. But the fact is, Saddam is YOU.
.

User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 14 Dec 2003 07:13:53 PM
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5jsptv4odnjkdqn7kq6kdisbhgd7fm8h10@4ax.com...

Your CIA put Saddam into power

You supplied him with $4 billion in 1988, which he used to build up
his military.

You said nothing for 20 years, while he was torturing and brutalizing
his own people. Now you are torturing and brutalizing them.

You sold him WMD. Cheney and Rumsfeld, in fact, went to Baghdad
in 1988 to cut the deals. There are numerous articles, and photographs
of that trip. The inventory of WMD's the US sold Iraq is massive, and
includes biological weapons agents, equipment for making chemical
weapons, and equipment and technology that could be used to build
nuclear weapons, and missiles.

You capture him now, after all that you've done to the world.
You may put him on trial, put him in a cage like a monkey,
or even kill him. But the fact is, Saddam is YOU.

Interesting way to look at it. Can't disagree much.
Then as far as I'm concerned you could say that Saddam is the anti-christ.
:-)
.
User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 14 Dec 2003 07:28:09 PM
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:13:53 -0500, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:5jsptv4odnjkdqn7kq6kdisbhgd7fm8h10@4ax.com...

Your CIA put Saddam into power

You supplied him with $4 billion in 1988, which he used to build up
his military.

You said nothing for 20 years, while he was torturing and brutalizing
his own people. Now you are torturing and brutalizing them.

You sold him WMD. Cheney and Rumsfeld, in fact, went to Baghdad
in 1988 to cut the deals. There are numerous articles, and photographs
of that trip. The inventory of WMD's the US sold Iraq is massive, and
includes biological weapons agents, equipment for making chemical
weapons, and equipment and technology that could be used to build
nuclear weapons, and missiles.

You capture him now, after all that you've done to the world.
You may put him on trial, put him in a cage like a monkey,
or even kill him. But the fact is, Saddam is YOU.


Interesting way to look at it. Can't disagree much.

Then as far as I'm concerned you could say that Saddam is the anti-christ.
:-)

Saddam's creators, and greatest supporters are for the most part still
alive. One is an Alzheimers patient, drooling all over his wee wee,
another is still cutting deals with the Bin Laden family (George
Bush Sr.), and others are at the very core of the US government's
top echelons.
He definitly was unleashed on the world by the United States.
For that, it's those like Rumsfeld (who sold him the WMD in 1988)
and others on the Capitol Mall who belong in a monkey cage
with him.
Hope springs eternal
.
User: " John F Lemke"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 14 Dec 2003 09:28:08 PM
"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:tc3qtvsnpvq3v1t0me9hrhfq67edlhu6u4@4ax.com...

Saddam's creators, and greatest supporters are for the most part still
alive. One is an Alzheimers patient, drooling all over his wee wee,
another is still cutting deals with the Bin Laden family (George
Bush Sr.), and others are at the very core of the US government's
top echelons.

He definitly was unleashed on the world by the United States.
For that, it's those like Rumsfeld (who sold him the WMD in 1988)
and others on the Capitol Mall who belong in a monkey cage
with him.

Hope springs eternal

It would take a mighty big cage to contain all the monkeys responsible for
Saddam. English, French, American. You'd also have to take a trip into the
netherworld of those deceased to catch em all.
It's a system. Saddam was an archetype of that system. He stopped serving
that system then suddenly the system cried about tyranny and about the
graves of 450,000 Arabs in Iraqi deserts. Tyranny wasn't so sad when Saddam
was keeping his place and we were easily able to acquire"his" oil.
Saddam is a primal root in the nature of the Beast.
Now a democracy over there will serve the system's purposes. 'Democracy'
seems to serve those purposes here as well. And it will until safety issues
make it necessary for us to trade our freedoms for security.
.
User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 14 Dec 2003 10:07:34 PM
On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 22:28:08 -0500, " John F Lemke"
<jflemke@LocalLink.net> wrote:


"Mark Tyme" <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:tc3qtvsnpvq3v1t0me9hrhfq67edlhu6u4@4ax.com...

Saddam's creators, and greatest supporters are for the most part still
alive. One is an Alzheimers patient, drooling all over his wee wee,
another is still cutting deals with the Bin Laden family (George
Bush Sr.), and others are at the very core of the US government's
top echelons.

He definitly was unleashed on the world by the United States.
For that, it's those like Rumsfeld (who sold him the WMD in 1988)
and others on the Capitol Mall who belong in a monkey cage
with him.

Hope springs eternal


It would take a mighty big cage to contain all the monkeys responsible for
Saddam. English, French, American. You'd also have to take a trip into the
netherworld of those deceased to catch em all.

It's a system. Saddam was an archetype of that system. He stopped serving
that system then suddenly the system cried about tyranny and about the
graves of 450,000 Arabs in Iraqi deserts. Tyranny wasn't so sad when Saddam
was keeping his place and we were easily able to acquire"his" oil.

Saddam is a primal root in the nature of the Beast.

Now a democracy over there will serve the system's purposes. 'Democracy'
seems to serve those purposes here as well. And it will until safety issues
make it necessary for us to trade our freedoms for security.

You already have traded. Smell the coffee.
.
User: "TonyZ2001"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 15 Dec 2003 06:40:14 AM
Ok Mr Tyme, let's say that you're right, and that the powers that be in the USA
created Saddam and Bin Laden etc.
How long before they come to silence you?
Tony
"Sometimes we don't need History at all."
Dani
.
User: "Not Important"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 15 Dec 2003 07:18:10 AM
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031215074014.26136.00000860@mb-m15.aol.com...

Ok Mr Tyme, let's say that you're right, and that the powers that be in

the USA

created Saddam and Bin Laden etc.

How long before they come to silence you?

It baffles me that people deny the facts. It is because otherwise
intelligent people do that the U.S. government is safe in carrying out its
atrocities. Even if people raise a ruckess such as suing the Bush
administration in federal court for $5 billion for orchestrating 9/11 it is
still swept under the carpet. No one wants to believe them.
--
Jim Scannell
jscannell@wi.rr.com
http://home.wi.rr.com/jscannell/
(Your link on things that are truly important)
.
User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 15 Dec 2003 08:15:21 AM
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:18:10 -0600, "Not Important" <someone@here.yea>
wrote:

"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031215074014.26136.00000860@mb-m15.aol.com...

Ok Mr Tyme, let's say that you're right, and that the powers that be in

the USA

created Saddam and Bin Laden etc.

How long before they come to silence you?


It baffles me that people deny the facts. It is because otherwise
intelligent people do that the U.S. government is safe in carrying out its
atrocities. Even if people raise a ruckess such as suing the Bush
administration in federal court for $5 billion for orchestrating 9/11 it is
still swept under the carpet. No one wants to believe them.

It's because they are afraid. They would even run out and buy
a shopping basket full of duct tape at the local hardware store
(I witnessed it myself) becuase Ashcroft implied a chemical attack
was imminent, and it was nothing more than a PR stunt around
the time he was trying to get funding.
Pepole are afraid. Most Americans have never been in a war,
have never known depredation, or starvation. They live pampered
lives, like "the little boy in the bubble" who had no narural
immunity. The US federal government is completlely in legue with major
corporations, so everything is done to their advantage, and people
are secondary.
Americans are generally so lazy, and so brainwashed by the
"say nothing" media, that they actually believe the soundbites,
the lies, the exaggerations that the major media spread for the
masses. The media do it for money, they are on the take. It's
all about money.
Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 16 Dec 2003 09:15:31 PM
In article <f5grtvcfmgr4al7e0rjhvaotf6bn6t2cvv@4ax.com>, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com> wrote:


On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 07:18:10 -0600, "Not Important" <someone@here.yea>
wrote:

"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20031215074014.26136.00000860@mb-m15.aol.com...

Ok Mr Tyme, let's say that you're right, and that the powers that be in

the USA

created Saddam and Bin Laden etc.

How long before they come to silence you?


It baffles me that people deny the facts. It is because otherwise
intelligent people do that the U.S. government is safe in carrying out its
atrocities. Even if people raise a ruckess such as suing the Bush
administration in federal court for $5 billion for orchestrating 9/11 it is
still swept under the carpet. No one wants to believe them.



It's because they are afraid. They would even run out and buy
a shopping basket full of duct tape at the local hardware store
(I witnessed it myself) becuase Ashcroft implied a chemical attack
was imminent, and it was nothing more than a PR stunt around
the time he was trying to get funding.

That's true. I found it more than a little disturbing that people were such
idiots as to actually go out and buy this stuff so they could (ignorantly!)
suffocate themselves.
Woods
.

User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 15 Dec 2003 09:28:25 PM
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:15:21 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.

Wow, Mark - I'm very impressed that you've actually met all of us and
spent a substantial amount of time in America to be able to say the
above! That's a lot of people to meet!
Do you actually believe we are *all* like that?
Dani
.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 16 Dec 2003 09:17:03 PM
In article <b6vstvctpk7633lol0ip1fv35vr8iq2hnv@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:15:21 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.


Wow, Mark - I'm very impressed that you've actually met all of us and
spent a substantial amount of time in America to be able to say the
above! That's a lot of people to meet!

Do you actually believe we are *all* like that?

Most *people* are like that, has nothing to do with whether they are Americans
or not.
BTW, from his posts, sounds like Mark is an American.
Woods
.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 17 Dec 2003 10:13:03 AM
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:17:03 GMT,
(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <b6vstvctpk7633lol0ip1fv35vr8iq2hnv@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:15:21 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.


Wow, Mark - I'm very impressed that you've actually met all of us and
spent a substantial amount of time in America to be able to say the
above! That's a lot of people to meet!

Do you actually believe we are *all* like that?

Most *people* are like that, has nothing to do with whether they are Americans
or not.

Really? You think most people "give ***** all" about everyone else in
the world and only care about themselves? That's what he was
implying. That we're a bunch of snobby, stuck-up, selfish people who
only care about ourselves.

BTW, from his posts, sounds like Mark is an American.

I also think "Mark" has been here many times before under different
names. He seems very familiar to me.
Dani

Woods

.
User: "Whenas in silks my pretty Brooke goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction of her clothes"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 21 Dec 2003 11:17:55 AM
Created by Frankenstein?
http://home.comcast.net/%7Erainy-day-laughter/hmm.jpg
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!
Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d401uvkvrcda4vij5qt43tpqm5tl6ijujt@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:17:03 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <b6vstvctpk7633lol0ip1fv35vr8iq2hnv@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:15:21 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.


Wow, Mark - I'm very impressed that you've actually met all of us and
spent a substantial amount of time in America to be able to say the
above! That's a lot of people to meet!

Do you actually believe we are *all* like that?


Most *people* are like that, has nothing to do with whether they are Americans
or not.


Really? You think most people "give ***** all" about everyone else in
the world and only care about themselves? That's what he was
implying. That we're a bunch of snobby, stuck-up, selfish people who
only care about ourselves.

BTW, from his posts, sounds like Mark is an American.


I also think "Mark" has been here many times before under different
names. He seems very familiar to me.

Dani

Woods

.
User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 21 Dec 2003 11:50:37 AM
I suppose after about 12 beers, that's what Michael Jackson might look
like to a horny teenage boy
On 21 Dec 2003 09:17:55 -0800,
BrookeBurkeHasNeatInnerThighMeat@yahoo.com (Whenas in silks my pretty
Brooke goes, Then, then, methinks, how sweetly flows The liquefaction
of her clothes) wrote:

Created by Frankenstein?

http://home.comcast.net/%7Erainy-day-laughter/hmm.jpg

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!



Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<d401uvkvrcda4vij5qt43tpqm5tl6ijujt@4ax.com>...

On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:17:03 GMT,

(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <b6vstvctpk7633lol0ip1fv35vr8iq2hnv@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:15:21 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.


Wow, Mark - I'm very impressed that you've actually met all of us and
spent a substantial amount of time in America to be able to say the
above! That's a lot of people to meet!

Do you actually believe we are *all* like that?


Most *people* are like that, has nothing to do with whether they are Americans
or not.


Really? You think most people "give ***** all" about everyone else in
the world and only care about themselves? That's what he was
implying. That we're a bunch of snobby, stuck-up, selfish people who
only care about ourselves.

BTW, from his posts, sounds like Mark is an American.


I also think "Mark" has been here many times before under different
names. He seems very familiar to me.

Dani

Woods

.




User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 15 Dec 2003 10:18:57 PM
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 03:28:25 GMT, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 06:15:21 -0800, Mark Tyme <MarkTyme@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

Americans only care that they have a job, a full tank of gas in the
SUV, and the kids can go to private schools and attend soccer practice
on Saturdays. Other than that, they give ***** all about the rest of
the world, or evern the rest of the country.


Wow, Mark - I'm very impressed that you've actually met all of us and
spent a substantial amount of time in America to be able to say the
above! That's a lot of people to meet!

Do you actually believe we are *all* like that?

Dani

Ha ha ha ha ha
.




User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 16 Dec 2003 09:14:00 PM
In article <20031215074014.26136.00000860@mb-m15.aol.com>,
(TonyZ2001) wrote:

Ok Mr Tyme, let's say that you're right, and that the powers that be in the USA
created Saddam and Bin Laden etc.

How long before they come to silence you?

Do you really think that anyone in the CIA or FBI would take anything posted to
apn seriously? Oh, the Secret Service might conduct some kind of investigation
on someone who posted a threat of some sort to Bush (and/or whoever else they
cover) because they're required to investigate every.thing, but I can't imagine
anyone actually taking posts to this group seriously.
Woods
.
User: "Mark Tyme"

Title: Re: Why did your CIA create the Frankenstein Saddam in the first place? 16 Dec 2003 10:41:08 PM
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 03:14:00 GMT,
(Woodswun)
wrote:

In article <20031215074014.26136.00000860@mb-m15.aol.com>,

(TonyZ2001) wrote:

Ok Mr Tyme, let's say that you're right, and that the powers that be in the USA
created Saddam and Bin Laden etc.

How long before they come to silence you?


Do you really think that anyone in the CIA or FBI would take anything posted to
apn seriously? Oh, the Secret Service might conduct some kind of investigation
on someone who posted a threat of some sort to Bush (and/or whoever else they
cover) because they're required to investigate every.thing, but I can't imagine
anyone actually taking posts to this group seriously.

Woods

By the way, I can call Bush an *****. A lot of people are
assholes, and that represents no danger whatsoever to anyone,
so anyone making such an accusation would come under just
as much suspicion as I would, in the light of no evidence to
that effect. Play with fire, you get burned.
Yes, no one in the federal or state law enforcement agencies
takes anything seriously, unless there is either an implied
or over threat of some kind, or suspicion of a crime.
.








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