His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying. Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****. Also, it's such a blatant lie
that it was claimed by the "Left"...as though it's some sort of
monolithic block, that Saddam was co-operative with the UN
inspectors. He wasn't. He put roadblocks in the way...but always
ended up allowing (eventually) the inspectors to inspect. Stevie, and
his Neocon Liar friends, are the same guys who put out stories such as
Hans Blix was a Homosexual, and such, just to undermine them.
Now, Stevie, the reason so many people don't bother with your crazy
articles, is because it's a waste of time...it's like
perusing the tabloids, such as B52 Bomber found on Crater on the Moon,
or Bat Boy Escapes...sure, it's fun, but a complete waste of time.
eric.
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| User: "Dr. Bipolar" |
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08 Apr 2007 10:30:36 PM |
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"eric" <ericdavis500@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176085714.918304.144270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying. Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****.
Yes, that's exactly what happened in this real world, eric. In Stevie's
world, and that of the neocons, reality is oddly warped to favor
justifying their intolerance, their hatred, their fears, their feelings of
superiority, their religious and political extremism...and you, and I, and
every fucking liberal, moderate, or anyone else who knows the facts, can
argue til the cows come home with 'em, eric, but there's no end to their
defending their erroneous positions, recreating the past to favor their
positions, blaming us for countless problems they've created, et al.
I've realized for years that the so-called 'neocon movement' is very much
akin to the Nazi or fascist movements that rose in the 20s and led the
world to such horrendous bloodshed. They, too, were steeped in their own
dogmatic fantasy world, kissing God with their lips, but destroying his
doctrine and creation with their works.
I know that if these arrogant evil suckers today, the neocons, are not
challenged and dominate the global landscape, they'll push the planet into
another massive bloodbath. Before that occurs, though, as it did in the
wave of fascism of the past, so many freedoms are destroyed, people are
oppressed, repressed in every way, and merely to satisfy these sick
fuckers' insular bizarre version of the 'way we should be' according to
their warped minds.
I've seen it rise up since the shock of 9-11 to encompass every area of
human activity in the US -- politics, religion, social movements, media,
etc. -- and have been horrified by all of it. The mind of Stevie is the
mind, essentially, of the fascist of the past, but can be relabeled to be
anything that will permit them to keep their evil going...if 'liberal'
serves them, they will call their sickness of their mind, 'liberal', as
Stevie has done--warping the very definition of what liberal has
traditionally meant.
Whether he or his ilk call themselves 'traditonal liberals' or
'neoconservatives', their words and actions bely any self-definition, and
we, who still have an understanding of reality and truth, know WHY they
are doing this. It is to hide their right-wing fanaticism and try to keep
it going, to keep it hurting our freedoms, and keep one useless stupid war
after another, going.
Dr. Bipolar
Also, it's such a blatant lie
that it was claimed by the "Left"...as though it's some sort of
monolithic block, that Saddam was co-operative with the UN
inspectors. He wasn't. He put roadblocks in the way...but always
ended up allowing (eventually) the inspectors to inspect. Stevie, and
his Neocon Liar friends, are the same guys who put out stories such as
Hans Blix was a Homosexual, and such, just to undermine them.
Now, Stevie, the reason so many people don't bother with your crazy
articles, is because it's a waste of time...it's like
perusing the tabloids, such as B52 Bomber found on Crater on the Moon,
or Bat Boy Escapes...sure, it's fun, but a complete waste of time.
eric.
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08 Apr 2007 11:06:58 PM |
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On Apr 8, 11:30 pm, "Dr. Bipolar"
<doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com> wrote:
"eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176085714.918304.144270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying. Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****.
Yes, that's exactly what happened in this real world, eric. In Stevie's
world, and that of the neocons, reality is oddly warped to favor
justifying their intolerance, their hatred, their fears, their feelings of
superiority, their religious and political extremism...and you, and I, and
every fucking liberal, moderate, or anyone else who knows the facts, can
argue til the cows come home with 'em, eric, but there's no end to their
defending their erroneous positions, recreating the past to favor their
positions, blaming us for countless problems they've created, et al.
I've realized for years that the so-called 'neocon movement' is very much
akin to the Nazi or fascist movements that rose in the 20s and led the
world to such horrendous bloodshed. They, too, were steeped in their own
dogmatic fantasy world, kissing God with their lips, but destroying his
doctrine and creation with their works.
I know that if these arrogant evil suckers today, the neocons, are not
challenged and dominate the global landscape, they'll push the planet into
another massive bloodbath. Before that occurs, though, as it did in the
wave of fascism of the past, so many freedoms are destroyed, people are
oppressed, repressed in every way, and merely to satisfy these sick
fuckers' insular bizarre version of the 'way we should be' according to
their warped minds.
I've seen it rise up since the shock of 9-11 to encompass every area of
human activity in the US -- politics, religion, social movements, media,
etc. -- and have been horrified by all of it. The mind of Stevie is the
mind, essentially, of the fascist of the past, but can be relabeled to be
anything that will permit them to keep their evil going...if 'liberal'
serves them, they will call their sickness of their mind, 'liberal', as
Stevie has done--warping the very definition of what liberal has
traditionally meant.
Whether he or his ilk call themselves 'traditonal liberals' or
'neoconservatives', their words and actions bely any self-definition, and
we, who still have an understanding of reality and truth, know WHY they
are doing this. It is to hide their right-wing fanaticism and try to keep
it going, to keep it hurting our freedoms, and keep one useless stupid war
after another, going.
Dr. Bipolar
Also, it's such a blatant lie
that it was claimed by the "Left"...as though it's some sort of
monolithic block, that Saddam was co-operative with the UN
inspectors. He wasn't. He put roadblocks in the way...but always
ended up allowing (eventually) the inspectors to inspect. Stevie, and
his Neocon Liar friends, are the same guys who put out stories such as
Hans Blix was a Homosexual, and such, just to undermine them.
Now, Stevie, the reason so many people don't bother with your crazy
articles, is because it's a waste of time...it's like
perusing the tabloids, such as B52 Bomber found on Crater on the Moon,
or Bat Boy Escapes...sure, it's fun, but a complete waste of time.
eric.
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
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08 Apr 2007 11:09:38 PM |
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On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
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| User: "eric" |
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08 Apr 2007 11:18:08 PM |
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On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
08 Apr 2007 11:22:40 PM |
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On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
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| User: "eric" |
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08 Apr 2007 11:34:27 PM |
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On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
They KNOW they're Liars -- but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
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| User: "Brian" |
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09 Apr 2007 06:38:56 AM |
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* eric:
On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
They KNOW they're Liars -- but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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09 Apr 2007 07:45:19 AM |
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On Apr 9, 4:38 am, Brian <m...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
* eric:> On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
They KNOW they're Liars -- but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Thank you for your rational reply. It's refreshing to see a rational
poster here for a change.
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| User: "John Lemke" |
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09 Apr 2007 08:22:20 AM |
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On Apr 9, 7:38 am, Brian <m...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
* eric:
On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
They KNOW they're Liars -- but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian
Dig a little deeper, Brian, and you'll see Steven outdo any
contortionist living or dead in trying to spin and twist his way
around an argument. A number of people here have become disgusted by
it. It's a disgust that finds it's source with the liars and spinners
at the top. The people that have abused this country and it's best
people in getting us mired in the horror the Iraq has become.
You can admire a rational argument. You can also lose complete
respect for someone when they go to childish lengths to use their
tools in trying to deny obvious fact and support the propaganda and
mischaracterization that's rusulted in the deaths of tens of thousands
of people. That's why you've seen things degenerate into instant
flame wars here.
And why not? Shouldn't passion be aroused by what we've seen the
monkeys in Washington do in the Middle East over the last 4 years?
Steven's just increasingly lonely small time chump change here on
apn. Apparently he can't get enough abuse at home or on his job.
Here's what you have in Iraq after 4 years of effort by a "liberating
army":
Al-Sadr calls for Iraqis to concentrate on killing Americans and stop
killing each other.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/09/iraq.main/index.html
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| User: "eric" |
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09 Apr 2007 09:34:53 AM |
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On Apr 9, 7:38 am, Brian <m...@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
* eric:
On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
They KNOW they're Liars -- but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian
No. Steven doesn't have a point. Or rather his point is based on
lies, and sophistry. To indulge in conversation with so-called
"facts" which have been roundly refuted on a number of occassions is a
waste of time. This is like giving air time for "Swift-Boaters" -
it's a lie...but because so many people prefer the lie, and close
their ears, eyes, and the mouth to the truth, they get away with it.
If you still have people suggesting that the "Left" claimed Saddam was
cooperative with the UN inspectors, that Saddam co-operated with al-
Qaeda, that one of Kerry's wounds for which he got a purple heart, he
didn't even bleed, or that Saddam flew one of the planes into the WTC
on 9-11...then the only sensible thing, is to laugh...realize that at
least a quarter of Americans are Retards (thanks Southpark), and move
on.
Giving airtime to FOX, Coulter, O"Reilly, etc., people that we all
KNOW are habitual Liars, is so UnBeFuckingBelievably Disingenuous that
it almost staggers the imagination. This is why the world hates
America....you're controlled to a large extent by lying scumbags,
special interest groups, and claim the high-road constantly from the
Gutter. Now tell me about how you're against torture, America, and
pass a resolution allowing it.
No. Steven doesn't have a point. He never did.
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09 Apr 2007 02:20:48 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:38:56 -0400, Brian <my@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian, you have to understand that the people that you address above
have been arguing with Steven here for months, or even years to no
avail. They've gone over these things back and forth, left to right -
up, down and all over again! There comes a point when all avenues
have become exhausted; and personal jibes are all that is left.
Dani
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| User: "Perseid" |
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09 Apr 2007 06:27:39 PM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Dani Bell Spat the Words
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:38:56 -0400, Brian <my@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian, you have to understand that the people that you address above
have been arguing with Steven here for months, or even years to no
avail. They've gone over these things back and forth, left to right -
up, down and all over again! There comes a point when all avenues
have become exhausted; and personal jibes are all that is left.
Dani
Exactly. Our 'substanative proof' tends to be official documents
put out by Congressional investigative committees or the governments
of other industrialized countries, and stevie either says these are
'leftist lies' or he points to some right-wing blog (written by
someone you've never heard of) which purports to show 'proof' that
those official documents have been discounted. I think guys like
stevie are only hurting themselves by profferring such a distorted
version of reality.. after a while stevie has started to believe
that *****.. stevie lives in a fantasized version of reality.
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| User: "JTEM" |
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09 Apr 2007 10:37:42 PM |
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Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
Exactly.
As if there was any doubt...
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
09 Apr 2007 07:12:19 PM |
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On Apr 9, 12:20 pm, Dani Bell wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:38:56 -0400, Brian <m...@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian, you have to understand that the people that you address above
have been arguing with Steven here for months, or even years to no
avail. They've gone over these things back and forth, left to right -
up, down and all over again! There comes a point when all avenues
have become exhausted; and personal jibes are all that is left.
Obviously Marvin doesn't agree. He's the one poster here who has a
shred of class.
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
10 Apr 2007 02:36:06 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 9, 12:20 pm, Dani Bell wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:38:56 -0400, Brian <m...@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian, you have to understand that the people that you address above
have been arguing with Steven here for months, or even years to no
avail. They've gone over these things back and forth, left to right -
up, down and all over again! There comes a point when all avenues
have become exhausted; and personal jibes are all that is left.
Obviously Marvin doesn't agree. He's the one poster here who has a
shred of class.
True. I'm not sure why marv would talk to a schmuck like you.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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10 Apr 2007 08:23:01 AM |
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On Apr 10, 12:36 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 9, 12:20 pm, Dani Bell wrote:
On Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:38:56 -0400, Brian <m...@ddress.is.invalid>
wrote:
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian, you have to understand that the people that you address above
have been arguing with Steven here for months, or even years to no
avail. They've gone over these things back and forth, left to right -
up, down and all over again! There comes a point when all avenues
have become exhausted; and personal jibes are all that is left.
Obviously Marvin doesn't agree. He's the one poster here who has a
shred of class.
True. I'm not sure why marv would talk to a schmuck like you.
Because unlike you, Marv actually has something of substance to say.
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| User: "Dani Bell" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
10 Apr 2007 07:43:30 PM |
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On 9 Apr 2007 17:12:19 -0700, "Steven Douglas" <dsteven@flashmail.com>
wrote:
Obviously Marvin doesn't agree. He's the one poster here who has a
shred of class.
Give 'em time! .. :)
Dani
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| User: "Dr. Bipolar" |
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09 Apr 2007 08:27:33 AM |
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You don't know Stevie
Like we know Stevie...
It's more than facts, history, or recent events he's skewed to his
liking...no, if it were simply that, Brian, we'd just pass by it with the
usual usenet banter. It goes much deeper and is more aggravating. It
involves his toying with posters for his sadistic pleasure.
Let me give you just one example:
When Stevie blamed a poster for being a hypocrite, I pointed out ONE
example of his hypocrisy which he ACKNOWLEDGED...
But, then, Brian...(and pay attention please)...
he said that ONE example didn't make him a hypocrite! Well, now, if you
lie once, you're a liar...if you cheat once, you're a cheater...and so
forth.
Stevie wanted to satisfy his qualification for what constitutes hypocrisy
by asking that I document at least one other example of his hypocrisy, or
else he said he'd not accept that he was a hypocrite. He directed me to
the Google archives -- find another example, he said.
And that is but one of many problems with his personality and his
interactions with people here.
I'm sure others can relate their examples in considerable quantity (with
attendant agony).
After awhile, posters just lose all respect for and serious interest in a
regular poster who regularly toys with them, feathers his/her egotism, and
delights in recreating reality (previous conversations, etc.) and playing
with convoluted point-making (to name a few). It's so obvious his tactics
are meant to entertain himself at the expense of his correspondents. He's
a dedicated narcissist, and like most narcissists, he ends up manipulating
human interactions to make himself feel good. It is his constant
over-feeding of his disingenuous personality and his compulsively arrogant
ego...and his seeking of a form of sadistic entertainment by using people
as gaming targets and self-serving social tools that make him far beyond
the usual opinionated poster who wishes to banter.
As I said,
You don't know Stevie
Like we know Stevie...
Dr. Bipolar ;)~
"Brian" <my@ddress.is.invalid> wrote in message
news:131k9eh2emnvdcc@corp.supernews.com...
* eric:
On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort
to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded
as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
They KNOW they're Liars -- but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
Steven does bring up a point though. Post something that proves one way
or another. I have seen Steven do this from time to time but I can't
remember anyone else linking to news sites or articles. Everyone seems
to jump on him for being a liar but nobody, to my recollection, has
proved one way or another of that. Everyone seems to have the same
retorts, just insults not substance. Usenet can be a great source for
people being informed of certain things with different opinions but too
many times in turns into a flame war. Pity.
Brian
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
09 Apr 2007 11:35:09 PM |
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On Apr 9, 6:27 am, "Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com>
wrote:
You don't knowStevie
Like we knowStevie...
It's more than facts, history, or recent events he's skewed to his
liking...no, if it were simply that, Brian, we'd just pass by it with the
usual usenet banter. It goes much deeper and is more aggravating. It
involves his toying with posters for his sadistic pleasure.
Let me give you just one example:
WhenStevieblamed a poster for being a hypocrite, I pointed out ONE
example of hishypocrisywhich he ACKNOWLEDGED...
But, then, Brian...(and pay attention please)...
he said that ONE example didn't make him a hypocrite!
That's not how it happened. I corrected the spelling of one man's name
(and only after the second time the same poster had misspelled it),
and you said I had a *history* of correcting others' spelling
mistakes. So I asked you to show me just one more example, and of
course you couldn't.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
09 Apr 2007 07:43:38 AM |
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On Apr 8, 9:34 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
Have I ever cited an article by any of those people? Why would you
mention them in conjunction with me?
They KNOW they're Liars --
They do? How do you know that? Are you a mind reader?
but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
You know, it's one thing to have a disagreement. It's another to put
motives to someone with whom you disagree. What makes you think I'm no
more sincere in my beliefs than you are in yours? How arrogant of you.
And now, with all that, you've successfully dodged having to discuss
any actual topic. Congratulations.
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| User: "eric" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
09 Apr 2007 01:38:27 PM |
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On Apr 9, 8:43 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:34 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:22 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:18 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 9, 12:09 am, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 9:06 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
Stevie must have gotten beaten up alot as a kid.
I knew it! I knew it was only a matter of time before you'd resort to
simple meaningless platitudes, because you're just as simpleminded as
the other leftist liars who post to this group. How weak.
So why do you lie, Stevie?
If this is all you've got, erica, why bother? How about bringing up
another actual issue where you think I've lied? Let's debate it.
Could it be that you really think you're fooling anyone? Is there any
hint of a doubt of the obvious? Boy, Stevie, the jury has
deliberated. You have been weighed in the scales, and have been found
wanting. Everyone knows you're a liar...all you have left now is the
pseudo-sophistic articles you post. Even, those who write the
articles...people like Bill O'Reilly, Anne Coulter, Rush Limbaugh -
Have I ever cited an article by any of those people? Why would you
mention them in conjunction with me?
They KNOW they're Liars --
They do? How do you know that? Are you a mind reader?
but at least they've sold their Souls for
Money. Fools like you, prostitute yourself out Cheap! You give it
away for free.
You know, it's one thing to have a disagreement. It's another to put
motives to someone with whom you disagree. What makes you think I'm no
more sincere in my beliefs than you are in yours? How arrogant of you.
And now, with all that, you've successfully dodged having to discuss
any actual topic. Congratulations.
Why do u lie, Stevie?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
08 Apr 2007 10:35:13 PM |
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On Apr 8, 8:30 pm, "Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com>
wrote:
"eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176085714.918304.144270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying. Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****.
Yes, that's exactly what happened in this real world, eric. In Stevie's
world, and that of the neocons, reality is oddly warped to favor
justifying their intolerance, their hatred, their fears, their feelings of
Is this just a longwinded diatribe full of meaningless platitudes?
If so, I stopped reading right there.
<snip>
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| User: "Perseid" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
09 Apr 2007 02:24:08 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dsteven@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 8, 8:30 pm, "Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com>
wrote:
"eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176085714.918304.144270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying. Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****.
Yes, that's exactly what happened in this real world, eric. In Stevie's
world, and that of the neocons, reality is oddly warped to favor
justifying their intolerance, their hatred, their fears, their feelings of
Is this just a longwinded diatribe full of meaningless platitudes?
If so, I stopped reading right there.
<snip>
This is why you're not able to communicate effectively with the
rest of us.. you simply cannot stay focused.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
09 Apr 2007 07:44:08 AM |
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On Apr 9, 12:24 am, Perseid <eidp...@anti-spam.comcast.net> wrote:
After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, "Steven Douglas"
<dste...@flashmail.com> Spat the Words
On Apr 8, 8:30 pm, "Dr. Bipolar" <doctorsalway...@theglobalasylum.com>
wrote:
"eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1176085714.918304.144270@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying. Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****.
Yes, that's exactly what happened in this real world, eric. In Stevie's
world, and that of the neocons, reality is oddly warped to favor
justifying their intolerance, their hatred, their fears, their feelings of
Is this just a longwinded diatribe full of meaningless platitudes?
If so, I stopped reading right there.
<snip>
This is why you're not able to communicate effectively with the
rest of us.. you simply cannot stay focused.
Try discussing an actual topic for a change, and see if I stay focused.
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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| Title: Re: Why does Stevie Lie? |
08 Apr 2007 10:28:19 PM |
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On Apr 8, 7:28 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying.
Uh, you realize that was when President Clinton was warning us about
the threat posed by Saddam's WMD, don't you?
Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****. Also, it's such a blatant lie
that it was claimed by the "Left"...as though it's some sort of
monolithic block, that Saddam was co-operative with the UN
inspectors. He wasn't. He put roadblocks in the way...but always
ended up allowing (eventually) the inspectors to inspect.
Under terms of the 1991 cease fire Saddam agreed to, he was not
entitled to put up roadblocks. He agreed to complete cooperation,
which he never gave. That's what convinced Clinton and Blair to pull
the inspectors out of there in 1998, and start bombing the hell out of
Iraq for four days. It was Bush who got the inspectors back in in late
2002. And Saddam immediately started playing the same games over and
over again. And Bush and Blair decided enough was enough, once and for
all.
Stevie, and
his Neocon Liar friends, are the same guys who put out stories such as
Hans Blix was a Homosexual, and such, just to undermine them.
What? I never heard that. Where did you get that? Please show me the
legitimate source that made that claim.
Now, Stevie, the reason so many people don't bother with your crazy
articles, is because it's a waste of time...it's like
perusing the tabloids, such as B52 Bomber found on Crater on the Moon,
or Bat Boy Escapes...sure, it's fun, but a complete waste of time.
Now erica, the reason you don't want to look at this from a different
viewpoint from your own is that you're entrenched in your emotional
hatred for Bush, and you won't allow ANYTHING to interfere with your
emotions, will you?
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| User: "eric" |
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08 Apr 2007 10:31:35 PM |
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On Apr 8, 11:28 pm, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 7:28 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying.
Uh, you realize that was when President Clinton was warning us about
the threat posed by Saddam's WMD, don't you?
Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****. Also, it's such a blatant lie
that it was claimed by the "Left"...as though it's some sort of
monolithic block, that Saddam was co-operative with the UN
inspectors. He wasn't. He put roadblocks in the way...but always
ended up allowing (eventually) the inspectors to inspect.
Under terms of the 1991 cease fire Saddam agreed to, he was not
entitled to put up roadblocks. He agreed to complete cooperation,
which he never gave. That's what convinced Clinton and Blair to pull
the inspectors out of there in 1998, and start bombing the hell out of
Iraq for four days. It was Bush who got the inspectors back in in late
2002. And Saddam immediately started playing the same games over and
over again. And Bush and Blair decided enough was enough, once and for
all.
Stevie, and
his Neocon Liar friends, are the same guys who put out stories such as
Hans Blix was a Homosexual, and such, just to undermine them.
What? I never heard that. Where did you get that? Please show me the
legitimate source that made that claim.
Now, Stevie, the reason so many people don't bother with your crazy
articles, is because it's a waste of time...it's like
perusing the tabloids, such as B52 Bomber found on Crater on the Moon,
or Bat Boy Escapes...sure, it's fun, but a complete waste of time.
Now erica, the reason you don't want to look at this from a different
viewpoint from your own is that you're entrenched in your emotional
hatred for Bush, and you won't allow ANYTHING to interfere with your
emotions, will you?
Stevie, why do you lie?
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| User: "Steven Douglas" |
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08 Apr 2007 10:34:00 PM |
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On Apr 8, 8:31 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 11:28 pm, "Steven Douglas" <dste...@flashmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 7:28 pm, "eric" <ericdavis...@gmail.com> wrote:
His "lies of the left was just a big lie".
Facts are that Saddam never ordered the UN inspectors out, even when
it was proven that the CIA had previously infiltrated the group and
had been spying.
Uh, you realize that was when President Clinton was warning us about
the threat posed by Saddam's WMD, don't you?
Bush, that lying scumbag, was determined to go to
war, and it was Bush who forced the UN inspectors out. That's the
fact, Stevie, you lying sack of *****. Also, it's such a blatant lie
that it was claimed by the "Left"...as though it's some sort of
monolithic block, that Saddam was co-operative with the UN
inspectors. He wasn't. He put roadblocks in the way...but always
ended up allowing (eventually) the inspectors to inspect.
Under terms of the 1991 cease fire Saddam agreed to, he was not
entitled to put up roadblocks. He agreed to complete cooperation,
which he never gave. That's what convinced Clinton and Blair to pull
the inspectors out of there in 1998, and start bombing the hell out of
Iraq for four days. It was Bush who got the inspectors back in in late
2002. And Saddam immediately started playing the same games over and
over again. And Bush and Blair decided enough was enough, once and for
all.
Stevie, and
his Neocon Liar friends, are the same guys who put out stories such as
Hans Blix was a Homosexual, and such, just to undermine them.
What? I never heard that. Where did you get that? Please show me the
legitimate source that made that claim.
Now, Stevie, the reason so many people don't bother with your crazy
articles, is because it's a waste of time...it's like
perusing the tabloids, such as B52 Bomber found on Crater on the Moon,
or Bat Boy Escapes...sure, it's fun, but a complete waste of time.
Now erica, the reason you don't want to look at this from a different
viewpoint from your own is that you're entrenched in your emotional
hatred for Bush, and you won't allow ANYTHING to interfere with your
emotions, will you?
Stevie, why do you lie?
Erica, why don't you try to refute some of the other points I made, as
well as points made in the article which I posted a link to?
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