Obviously the verse from the Quran below says that
Jesus is the Messiah, so why don't Muslims believe this?
Tony
'''Behold (O Mary!)' The Angel said, 'God has chosen you, and purified you, and
chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good news of a
word from Him, whose name shall be the Christ (Masih or Messiah), Jesus son of
Mary, honored in this world and in the hereafter, and one of those brought near
to God.' (Holy Qur'an, 3:45)
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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15 Jan 2005 08:11:15 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Obviously the verse from the Quran below says that
Jesus is the Messiah, so why don't Muslims believe this?
They do, twit.
Tony
'''Behold (O Mary!)' The Angel said, 'God has chosen you, and purified you, and
chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good news of a
word from Him, whose name shall be the Christ (Masih or Messiah), Jesus son of
Mary, honored in this world and in the hereafter, and one of those brought near
to God.' (Holy Qur'an, 3:45)
I'm no expert on Muslim belief but Messiah means "anointed one", Christ
is the same in Greek. It's only Christians that extend that meaning to
include 'Son of God... member of the trinity'.
The whole point of the prophet (supposedly) was to correct the lies and
blasphemy of Christianity (not Jesus). This being the BIG one.
The trinity is an obvious deceit of the early church, even super-pious
(but not stupid) Isaac Newton figured that out, way back when.
As for Jesus = God, well look up your 10 commandments.
To "his" eternal shame, even YOU are a son of God.
-A
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| User: "MonsieurStat" |
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15 Jan 2005 10:13:45 AM |
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"Absolute Zero" <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Obviously the verse from the Quran below says that
Jesus is the Messiah, so why don't Muslims believe this?
They do, twit.
You're right. I am no expert either, but I know that both Christians and
Jews are considered by Islam as the People of the Book (meaning both Moses
and Jesus were sent on Earth by the same God as Mohammad, and that their
teachings has the same value as those of Mohammad).
The biggest point of dispute between Christianity and Islam is around the
concept of Jesus being the Son of God. Islamic scholars think that the
humanization of God to this degree (to literally have kids and all that) is
a blasphemy that was created many years after Jesus by the unfaithful.
Stat.
Tony
'''Behold (O Mary!)' The Angel said, 'God has chosen you, and purified
you, and
chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good
news of a
word from Him, whose name shall be the Christ (Masih or Messiah), Jesus
son of
Mary, honored in this world and in the hereafter, and one of those
brought near
to God.' (Holy Qur'an, 3:45)
I'm no expert on Muslim belief but Messiah means "anointed one", Christ is
the same in Greek. It's only Christians that extend that meaning to
include 'Son of God... member of the trinity'.
The whole point of the prophet (supposedly) was to correct the lies and
blasphemy of Christianity (not Jesus). This being the BIG one.
The trinity is an obvious deceit of the early church, even super-pious
(but not stupid) Isaac Newton figured that out, way back when.
As for Jesus = God, well look up your 10 commandments.
To "his" eternal shame, even YOU are a son of God.
-A
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| User: "TaDa Pope" |
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15 Jan 2005 01:57:45 PM |
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Subject: Re: Why don't Muslims believe the Quran?
From: "MonsieurStat"
Date: 1/15/2005 8:13 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"Absolute Zero" <amycaton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Obviously the verse from the Quran below says that
Jesus is the Messiah, so why don't Muslims believe this?
They do, twit.
You're right. I am no expert either, but I know that both Christians and
Jews are considered by Islam as the People of the Book (meaning both Moses
and Jesus were sent on Earth by the same God as Mohammad, and that their
teachings has the same value as those of Mohammad).
The biggest point of dispute between Christianity and Islam is around the
concept of Jesus being the Son of God. Islamic scholars think that the
humanization of God to this degree (to literally have kids and all that) is
a blasphemy that was created many years after Jesus by the unfaithful.
Stat.
Tony
'''Behold (O Mary!)' The Angel said, 'God has chosen you, and purified
you, and
chosen you above the women of all nations. O Mary, God gives you good
news of a
word from Him, whose name shall be the Christ (Masih or Messiah), Jesus
son of
Mary, honored in this world and in the hereafter, and one of those
brought near
to God.' (Holy Qur'an, 3:45)
I'm no expert on Muslim belief but Messiah means "anointed one", Christ is
the same in Greek. It's only Christians that extend that meaning to
include 'Son of God... member of the trinity'.
The whole point of the prophet (supposedly) was to correct the lies and
blasphemy of Christianity (not Jesus). This being the BIG one.
The trinity is an obvious deceit of the early church, even super-pious
(but not stupid) Isaac Newton figured that out, way back when.
As for Jesus = God, well look up your 10 commandments.
To "his" eternal shame, even YOU are a son of God.
-A
That's absolutely correct!
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
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| User: "TonyZ2001" |
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| Title: Re: Why don't Muslims believe the Quran? |
15 Jan 2005 09:40:19 AM |
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Absolute Zero
wrote:
They do, twit.
Wrong.
They say that Jesus is merely another prophet, the verse clearly says Messiah.
Huge difference.
Tony
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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15 Jan 2005 10:27:49 AM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Absolute Zero
wrote:
They do, twit.
Wrong.
They say that Jesus is merely another prophet, the verse clearly says Messiah.
Huge difference.
DON'T SNIP MY POST TO HIDE YOUR IGNORANCE, TURD.
DEAL WITH IT.
I'm no expert on Muslim belief but Messiah means "anointed one", Christ
is the same in Greek. It's only Christians that extend that meaning to
include 'Son of God... member of the trinity'.
The whole point of the prophet (supposedly) was to correct the lies and
blasphemy of Christianity (not Jesus). This being the BIG one.
The trinity is an obvious deceit of the early church, even super-pious
(but not stupid) Isaac Newton figured that out, way back when.
As for Jesus = God, well look up your 10 commandments.
To "his" eternal shame, even YOU are a son of God.
-A
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15 Jan 2005 11:43:15 AM |
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Excellent 'Point'
Many Religions believe in a :
Before Life (return of a Previous life): The Son (baby)
The Current Life : The Father
And After Life: The Holy Spirit
But none is Greater Than : The Almighty
This is the what it is and what will always be!!!
After death, the body is left behind, but the Spiritual Entity lives on =
forever.
- Ooppps, again, this is probably too much information.
The ONLY reason that I can explain this message is:
The "Past Life" (Great Beyond) is trying to avert the up coming Wars.
(Maybe everyone should realise that the "Here After" is for everyone - =
regardless of Faith)
And Purgatory is nothing more than a 'Regret' of how you spent your =
Living years!!!
But, as I write this, I have already seen that it will get read by FEW =
and acknowledged by even Fewer !!!
GOD Bless Humanity. After all, we will all be sharing the same space =
after Death (in the Great Beyond) !!!
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<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Excellent 'Point'</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Many Religions believe in a =
:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>Before Life (return of a Previous =
life): The Son=20
(baby)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The Current Life : The =
Father</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>And After Life: The Holy =
Spirit</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>But none is Greater Than : The=20
Almighty</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>This is the what it is and what will =
always=20
be!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>After death, the body is left =
behind, but=20
the Spiritual Entity lives on forever.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>- Ooppps, again, this is probably too =
much=20
information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The ONLY reason that I can explain =
this message=20
is:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>The "Past Life" (Great Beyond) is =
trying to avert=20
the up coming Wars.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>(Maybe everyone should realise that =
the "Here=20
After" is for everyone - regardless of Faith)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>And Purgatory is nothing more than a =
'Regret' of=20
how you spent your Living years!!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>But, as I write this, I have already =
seen that it=20
will get read by FEW and acknowledged by even Fewer !!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2>GOD Bless Humanity. After all, we will =
all be=20
sharing the same space after Death (in the Great Beyond) =
!!!</FONT></DIV>
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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| Title: Re: Why don't Muslims believe the Quran? |
15 Jan 2005 01:33:56 PM |
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K. Miller wrote:
Excellent 'Point'
Many Religions believe in a :
Before Life (return of a Previous life): The Son (baby)
The Current Life : The Father
And After Life: The Holy Spirit
But none is Greater Than : The Almighty
The "Almighty" isn't divisible, it's ALL that is.
This is the what it is and what will always be!!!
After death, the body is left behind, but the Spiritual Entity lives
on forever.
Check.
- Ooppps, again, this is probably too much information.
Not at all, the joy of apn is that anything goes. Occasionally we even
discuss Nostradamus :-0
The ONLY reason that I can explain this message is:
The "Past Life" (Great Beyond) is trying to avert the up coming Wars.
(Maybe everyone should realise that the "Here After" is for everyone -
regardless of Faith)
And Purgatory is nothing more than a 'Regret' of how you spent your
Living years!!!
Purgatory was invented by the Church in the 12th century. They've been
shamelessly making stuff up ever since Saul of Tarsus. Why else would
they spend the best part of two millenia preventing people from reading
the Bible and conducting services in a dead language?
But you're correct about the state of regret, dealing with the
conscience. Though it's not a "place" and it's not permanent.
Hell has a much longer history, from Hades to the local landfill.
And where would we be without that fantasy agent of evil, Satan? How
would we explain the evil that men do?
But, as I write this, I have already seen that it will get read by FEW
and acknowledged by even Fewer !!!
Acknowledged
You might be surprised, more than a few here possess a greater
understanding than is found in your typical pew. Lots of Cayce fans for
example.
GOD Bless Humanity. After all, we will all be sharing the same space
after Death (in the Great Beyond) !!!
BTW, you're posting in HTML.. would you consider turning it off?
You can do that by clicking Outlook Express' menu item "Tools" and then
"Options..."
Then click the "Send" tab and select the "Plain Text" option in the
"News Sending Format" area.
-A
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| User: "Never anonymous Bud" |
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15 Jan 2005 07:24:59 PM |
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Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, Absolute Zero <amycaton@hotmail.com> on Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:11:15 +0000 spoke:
I'm no expert on Muslim belief but Messiah means "anointed one", Christ
is the same in Greek.
No, Christ (Christos) means anointed, or 'special' to God.
Messiah means something totally different.
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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15 Jan 2005 07:32:43 PM |
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Never anonymous Bud wrote:
Trying to steal the thunder from Arnold, Absolute Zero <amycaton@hotmail.com> on Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:11:15 +0000 spoke:
I'm no expert on Muslim belief but Messiah means "anointed one", Christ
is the same in Greek.
No, Christ (Christos) means anointed, or 'special' to God.
Messiah means something totally different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messiah
-A
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| User: "TaDa Pope" |
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16 Jan 2005 11:49:23 AM |
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Because they are an ignorant and confused group of people.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all universes constantly and at random.
* D OUOSVAVV M *
*PUBLIUS ENIGMA*
Oh Joy!
The Psychedelic Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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| User: "" |
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15 Jan 2005 07:04:41 PM |
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What a shame that god has such a love of comedy and his followers have
no sense of humor. ;-)
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| User: "Absolute Zero" |
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15 Jan 2005 07:12:53 PM |
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wrote:
What a shame that god has such a love of comedy and his followers have
no sense of humor. ;-)
Jah, Jha.
Strangely enough, the only thing that seems to consistently tickle their
ribs is the suffering of others.
LOL!!!
(as Tony would say)
-A
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