They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
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01 Jan 2007 08:46:00 PM |
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"John Lemke" <jflemke@locallink.net> wrote in message
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They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm. They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
A nice family of them live in the next apartment. I have dinner with them
at times but never follow them.
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02 Jan 2007 07:01:20 PM |
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John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
No doubt they'll reassemble after I hack them into tiny pieces. There's something very satisfying about three feet of razor-honed D2
tool steel in your hand. For the uninitiated; D2 is the alloy that is used for bulldozer blades and backhoe teeth. It is damn near
indestructable.
Charly
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02 Jan 2007 07:06:59 PM |
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"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
No doubt they'll reassemble after I hack them into tiny pieces. There's
something very satisfying about three feet of razor-honed D2
tool steel in your hand. For the uninitiated; D2 is the alloy that is used
for bulldozer blades and backhoe teeth. It is damn near
indestructable.
Charly
We'll have to use the fiery Word of God , the Sword of the tongue, to
annihilate them, Charly.
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| User: "Charly the Bastard" |
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03 Jan 2007 01:17:47 PM |
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John Lemke wrote:
"Charly the *****" <nitecrawler7@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:459B005C.FD6D5D19@worldnet.att.net...
John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
No doubt they'll reassemble after I hack them into tiny pieces. There's
something very satisfying about three feet of razor-honed D2
tool steel in your hand. For the uninitiated; D2 is the alloy that is used
for bulldozer blades and backhoe teeth. It is damn near
indestructable.
Charly
We'll have to use the fiery Word of God , the Sword of the tongue, to
annihilate them, Charly.
A knife always works, John. If they're corporeal, they'll get cut. Considering the jaded mindset of today's 'man on the street', they'll
have to be physical to garner any credibility at all. That means they're vulnerable to physical attack. Of course the swords glow in the
dark; that's how you can tell that they're magic swords.
Charly
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01 Jan 2007 09:35:41 PM |
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On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:03:17 -0500, John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
So, what kind of "weather phenomenon" hovers above the ground, is gray in
color, and then suddenly streaks upward so fast that it leaves a hole in
solid overcast clouds? Does the NOAA have any photos of this kind of
"weather phenomenon"? I'd love to see a photo of both the gray part and
the hole it can leave behind - that would be just as interesting as a
photo of a tornado! ^_^
Woods
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02 Jan 2007 11:49:35 AM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.02.03.35.36.301462@tepidmail.com...
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:03:17 -0500, John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on
your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
So, what kind of "weather phenomenon" hovers above the ground, is gray
in
color, and then suddenly streaks upward so fast that it leaves a hole in
solid overcast clouds? Does the NOAA have any photos of this kind of
"weather phenomenon"? I'd love to see a photo of both the gray part and
the hole it can leave behind - that would be just as interesting as a
photo of a tornado! ^_^
Woods
Precisely, Woods...what kind? It's not defined by the FAA or other
official source. A 'temperature inversion' might have done this, but it
would have to be a violent one, extraordinary in nature. Yet, the
witnesses' descriptions seem to rule this possibility out.
NUFORC.org is investigating. I know Davenport who heads it up. He's a
former pilot and says this UFO is very intriguing. Incidentally, Davenport
has moved from Seattle to E. Washington, and is living in a former Atlas
ICBM base near Spokane!!
Docrodile :))~
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02 Jan 2007 09:55:56 PM |
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"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.02.03.35.36.301462@tepidmail.com...
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:03:17 -0500, John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
So, what kind of "weather phenomenon" hovers above the ground, is gray in
color, and then suddenly streaks upward so fast that it leaves a hole in
solid overcast clouds? Does the NOAA have any photos of this kind of
"weather phenomenon"?
All they have to have is a story and then keep repeating it. We've been
watching that in spades here at apn for the last couple of years.
I'd love to see a photo of both the gray part and
the hole it can leave behind - that would be just as interesting as a
photo of a tornado! ^_^
There have been pictures taken but the Bush family confiscates them and then
kills the photographers. That's why we have to stert hurling scripture at
them.
That's my line and I'm sticking with it.
Woods
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03 Jan 2007 07:06:13 PM |
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On Tue, 02 Jan 2007 22:55:56 -0500, John Lemke wrote:
"Woodswun" <woodswun@tepidmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2007.01.02.03.35.36.301462@tepidmail.com...
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:03:17 -0500, John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm.
They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away. They're
pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up feasting on your
souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0701010141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
So, what kind of "weather phenomenon" hovers above the ground, is gray in
color, and then suddenly streaks upward so fast that it leaves a hole in
solid overcast clouds? Does the NOAA have any photos of this kind of
"weather phenomenon"?
All they have to have is a story and then keep repeating it. We've been
watching that in spades here at apn for the last couple of years.
I'd love to see a photo of both the gray part and
the hole it can leave behind - that would be just as interesting as a
photo of a tornado! ^_^
There have been pictures taken but the Bush family confiscates them and then
kills the photographers. That's why we have to stert hurling scripture at
them.
That's my line and I'm sticking with it.
LOL!
Hey, looks like France is going to be opening up their UFO files to the
public.
http://news.com.com/France+UFO+sightings+are+no+X-Files/2100-11397_3-6146358.html?tag=nefd.top
I'll be interested to see what they've got. ^_^
Woods
Woods
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02 Jan 2007 01:20:59 AM |
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After Much Chewing of Cud and Cogitation, Woodswun
<woodswun@tepidmail.com> Spat the Words
On Mon, 01 Jan 2007 20:03:17 -0500, John Lemke wrote:
They're all demons that have been banished, like us, to this earthly
realm. They're pretending to be living beings from far, far away.
They're pretending to be nice and peace loving. They'll end up
feasting on your souls for eternity if you follow them.
Bwaha(cough)ha
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-07010
10141jan01,0,5874175.column?coll=chi-newsnationworldiraq-hed
So, what kind of "weather phenomenon" hovers above the ground, is gray
in color, and then suddenly streaks upward so fast that it leaves a hole
in solid overcast clouds? Does the NOAA have any photos of this kind of
"weather phenomenon"? I'd love to see a photo of both the gray part and
the hole it can leave behind - that would be just as interesting as a
photo of a tornado! ^_^
They're called foo-fighters. ^ò^
But seriously... seeing a UFO must be a curse in disguise because
everyone immediately assumes you're playing a hoax... you get
branded a fraud from that point forward unless you have some
hard evidence (like a dead alien body).
Woods
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02 Jan 2007 05:17:19 AM |
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Perseid wrote:
But seriously... seeing a UFO must be a curse in disguise because
everyone immediately assumes you're playing a hoax... you get
branded a fraud from that point forward unless you have some
hard evidence (like a dead alien body).
True. It's a bit like 'seeing' a passing ghost I suppose. The suprising
fact is that people reveal their 'sightings' under circumstances where
only their own word is evidence of the event.
Most thinking people would be reluctant so to do. I know I wouldn't
merrily wander the Town proclaiming I had 'seen a flying saucer'..even
if I had noticed some odd phenomena. The very fact that the 'witness'
thrives on publicity is itself a reason to suspect these dubious
reports.
I'm still laughing about a Police Officer in the North of England who
claimed to have been whisked away, abducted by aliens from his patrol
car...;)
I can just imagine a defence solicitor in court cross-examining him
for..oh, say his evidence against a speeding motorist. First, ask the
Police Officer to say again what he saw the motorist doing..then ask
him all about his encounter and experience with passing aliens.
No bets on the result of the court case!
The 'account' is a rather good way to secure a substantial 'ill-health'
pension from the Police Force..and is also a very good way of not
responding to a question as to where you were at a certain time. I'm
waiting to see it tried as an alibi in some major criminal proceedings.
Might even work if your jury happen to be members of the flying saucer
society..;)
Werewolfy
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02 Jan 2007 12:03:27 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Perseid wrote:
But seriously... seeing a UFO must be a curse in disguise because
everyone immediately assumes you're playing a hoax... you get
branded a fraud from that point forward unless you have some
hard evidence (like a dead alien body).
True. It's a bit like 'seeing' a passing ghost I suppose. The suprising
fact is that people reveal their 'sightings' under circumstances where
only their own word is evidence of the event.
Most thinking people would be reluctant so to do. I know I wouldn't
merrily wander the Town proclaiming I had 'seen a flying saucer'..even
if I had noticed some odd phenomena. The very fact that the 'witness'
thrives on publicity is itself a reason to suspect these dubious
reports.
I'm still laughing about a Police Officer in the North of England who
claimed to have been whisked away, abducted by aliens from his patrol
car...;)
I can just imagine a defence solicitor in court cross-examining him
for..oh, say his evidence against a speeding motorist. First, ask the
Police Officer to say again what he saw the motorist doing..then ask
him all about his encounter and experience with passing aliens.
No bets on the result of the court case!
The 'account' is a rather good way to secure a substantial 'ill-health'
pension from the Police Force..and is also a very good way of not
responding to a question as to where you were at a certain time. I'm
waiting to see it tried as an alibi in some major criminal proceedings.
Might even work if your jury happen to be members of the flying saucer
society..;)
Werewolfy
Don't make fun of something you haven't experienced, Wolfy...I have seen
UFOs, and saw a military fighter jet turn on its afterburners and chase
after a well-defined cylinder shaped object in daylight many years ago. I
had binoculars to see the UFO, and it wasn't anything I can relate to
conventional aircraft or missiles, or a natural phenomenon. You simply
must see a real UFO to understand this!
I don't know whether these unknown phenomena are ET ships or what, but
there is something very curious and unexplained going on in our
skies...and apparently for millenia, if ancient reports can be interpreted
as being 'unknown' phenomena.
We can't conventionally explain the ghost phenomenon, either, yet there is
plenty of documentation to show something unknown is present, and
affecting detection instruments, such as EMF meters, temperature...and the
vids and photos show something happening.
I've experienced that phenomenon, too...and seen a sasquatch critter not
more than 100 feet away. Don't laugh...paranormal phenomena are with us!!!
Docrodile ;)
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02 Jan 2007 01:10:44 PM |
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Docrodile wrote:
Don't laugh...paranormal phenomena are with us!!!
Yes. I keep a few things to myself..because only I know they are true,
that no mistake has been made and that the 'impossible' happened.
That's why I simply do not believe time exists..other than as an
illusion. I know...not think, not a 'little bit certain', or any other
combination of terms. I know that it is possible to 'see' events that
are yet to occur. I feel (as against 'I know') that this information is
of no use whatsoever, other than to cause us a lot of worry. Nothing
may be done with this knowledge to prevent or alter that which is
'forseen'. Life has allowed me a few insights into this, but there is
one very special occasion, which is quite simply beyond any alternative
interpretation. It was something told to me by a close relative..told
and happened three days later; despite entreaties by that person to
ensure it could not. The person about whom the prediction was made knew
nothing of it. I tried to help..tried hard because the 'seer' was in
great distress.
It happened. Co-incidence would take credulity even further...such a
precise account was 'fulfilled'. It was also a thing that would never
simply come to mind as any normal concern would. This was specific,
precise and it happened...despite my knowing.
Trouble is, I am the only one now who 'knows' that. I don't speak about
it..this is the first time I think. I can't expect belief. But I know.
Werewolfy
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02 Jan 2007 01:59:08 PM |
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"Werewolfy" <Werewolfy1@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1167765044.613751.310390@i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Docrodile wrote:
Don't laugh...paranormal phenomena are with us!!!
Yes. I keep a few things to myself..because only I know they are true,
that no mistake has been made and that the 'impossible' happened.
That's why I simply do not believe time exists..other than as an
illusion. I know...not think, not a 'little bit certain', or any other
combination of terms. I know that it is possible to 'see' events that
are yet to occur. I feel (as against 'I know') that this information is
of no use whatsoever, other than to cause us a lot of worry. Nothing
may be done with this knowledge to prevent or alter that which is
'forseen'. Life has allowed me a few insights into this, but there is
one very special occasion, which is quite simply beyond any alternative
interpretation. It was something told to me by a close relative..told
and happened three days later; despite entreaties by that person to
ensure it could not. The person about whom the prediction was made knew
nothing of it. I tried to help..tried hard because the 'seer' was in
great distress.
It happened. Co-incidence would take credulity even further...such a
precise account was 'fulfilled'. It was also a thing that would never
simply come to mind as any normal concern would. This was specific,
precise and it happened...despite my knowing.
Trouble is, I am the only one now who 'knows' that. I don't speak about
it..this is the first time I think. I can't expect belief. But I know.
Werewolfy
I think time exists as an illusion we create for convenience, practical
purposes...we could just as easily measure it other ways than what we do
now. If the soul exists, and is eternal, time becomes irrelevant on earth,
I think.
Whatever your paranormal experience was, it sounds like it disturbed you
enough to make you reinterpret reality. I'm not sure from what you said
just exactly what you are saying here. I get that you think there is
reason to believe predestiny exists to some degree. You're being kind of
cryptic. I agree with you that foreknowledge seems, for the most part, to
not be of use or benefit to us, except to cause anxiety. There is a
certain fascination some folks have with believing they have 'special
powers' or 'enlightenment' but my experience with these claimants is that
they still suffer and have difficulity dealing with the vagaries of life
just like the rest of us who seemingly have no such specialness...or who
have not developed it.
Docrodile
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02 Jan 2007 05:09:36 PM |
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Docrodile wrote:
I think time exists as an illusion we create for convenience, practical
purposes...we could just as easily measure it other ways than what we do
now. If the soul exists, and is eternal, time becomes irrelevant on earth,
I think.
Whatever your paranormal experience was, it sounds like it disturbed you
enough to make you reinterpret reality. I'm not sure from what you said
just exactly what you are saying here. I get that you think there is
reason to believe predestiny exists to some degree. You're being kind of
cryptic. I agree with you that foreknowledge seems, for the most part, to
not be of use or benefit to us, except to cause anxiety. There is a
certain fascination some folks have with believing they have 'special
powers' or 'enlightenment' but my experience with these claimants is that
they still suffer and have difficulity dealing with the vagaries of life
just like the rest of us who seemingly have no such specialness...or who
have not developed it.
Docrodile
Top marks. You 'read' me very well indeed. The concept of predestiny
isn't all that nice...well, I don't think so. Having said that, the
knowledge I have makes me feel that predestiny is the only answer
possible when considering the nature of 'time'.
God but it's such an individual thing...unless of course you want to
join the ranks of those who profit from wild claims. My experience did
make me look again at reality. I don't expect anyone to take the
slightest notice of those thoughts, because they did not have the same
experience. Silence is a better code I think. Well, this is one of the
few times I've said anything about it...but events, real events ocurred
that are undeniable.
It's not at all like those who suddenly are given 'God into their
lives'. All those people say about it is a vague 'explanation' that it
happened...nothing more than a feeling.
No, my experience was real. The future was predicted and someone died
in precisely the bizarre manner described in the dream. It wasn't my
dream, but the person who had it knew, absolutely knew, it was more
than a normal dream, it was a warning.
But it wasn't a warning. I watched my brother carefully. I lingered
somewhere and a few minutes later found him dying hanging from a metal
ladder. Every tiny detail was identical to that dream.
That rather sharpens one's perspective on dreams and the future. I
don't believe I could have failed to 'linger' for that moment. It was
not some Devine warning...just a tear in the fabric of reality allowing
the dreamer to co-exist in that future moment.
No, I don't have self recrimination. I really believe that nothing I
did, or could have done, would change events.
Yes Doc. A disturbing business...very.
Werewolfy
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03 Jan 2007 02:33:56 PM |
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Werewolfy wrote:
Docrodile wrote:
I think time exists as an illusion we create for convenience, practical
purposes...we could just as easily measure it other ways than what we do
now. If the soul exists, and is eternal, time becomes irrelevant on earth,
I think.
Whatever your paranormal experience was, it sounds like it disturbed you
enough to make you reinterpret reality. I'm not sure from what you said
just exactly what you are saying here. I get that you think there is
reason to believe predestiny exists to some degree. You're being kind of
cryptic. I agree with you that foreknowledge seems, for the most part, to
not be of use or benefit to us, except to cause anxiety. There is a
certain fascination some folks have with believing they have 'special
powers' or 'enlightenment' but my experience with these claimants is that
they still suffer and have difficulity dealing with the vagaries of life
just like the rest of us who seemingly have no such specialness...or who
have not developed it.
Docrodile
Top marks. You 'read' me very well indeed. The concept of predestiny
isn't all that nice...well, I don't think so. Having said that, the
knowledge I have makes me feel that predestiny is the only answer
possible when considering the nature of 'time'.
God but it's such an individual thing...unless of course you want to
join the ranks of those who profit from wild claims. My experience did
make me look again at reality. I don't expect anyone to take the
slightest notice of those thoughts, because they did not have the same
experience. Silence is a better code I think. Well, this is one of the
few times I've said anything about it...but events, real events ocurred
that are undeniable.
It's not at all like those who suddenly are given 'God into their
lives'. All those people say about it is a vague 'explanation' that it
happened...nothing more than a feeling.
No, my experience was real. The future was predicted and someone died
in precisely the bizarre manner described in the dream. It wasn't my
dream, but the person who had it knew, absolutely knew, it was more
than a normal dream, it was a warning.
But it wasn't a warning. I watched my brother carefully. I lingered
somewhere and a few minutes later found him dying hanging from a metal
ladder. Every tiny detail was identical to that dream.
That rather sharpens one's perspective on dreams and the future. I
don't believe I could have failed to 'linger' for that moment. It was
not some Devine warning...just a tear in the fabric of reality allowing
the dreamer to co-exist in that future moment.
No, I don't have self recrimination. I really believe that nothing I
did, or could have done, would change events.
Yes Doc. A disturbing business...very.
Werewolfy
I've had dreams of minor future events come to play exactly like what
was played in my head while asleep. Yes, I know what you are talking
about, and how it affects your life. At the very moment of recognition
of the recall of a prophetic dream in waking reality, it hits one with
such a stunning impact as to be almost tantamount to what is
experienced in a stroke (and I do know about that!). The mind and body
momentarily hesitates, reels backward dizzingly (in my case), and there
is a sort of eerie quiet...even if in the midst of a busy, noisy crowd
(as I was when one prophetic dream came true, and I instantly recalled
it).
What the hell does this mean? That events in our lives, even smaller
ones, are already determined by some great designer? Disturbing, yes, I
agree, and it speaks against our popular notion that we have free will,
and events, present and future, are determined primarily by our daily
decision-making, actions, or by random circumstance.
It shakes a person up...one never forgets the experience and the
'lesson' it imbeds in the consciousness and subconsciousness.
Dr. Bipolar
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03 Jan 2007 05:38:39 PM |
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Dr. Bipolar wrote:
What the hell does this mean? That events in our lives, even smaller
ones, are already determined by some great designer? Disturbing, yes, I
agree, and it speaks against our popular notion that we have free will,
and events, present and future, are determined primarily by our daily
decision-making, actions, or by random circumstance.
It shakes a person up...one never forgets the experience and the
'lesson' it imbeds in the consciousness and subconsciousness.
Exactly Doc.
The 'What the Hell does this mean' part disturbs me a lot. Logic points
to pre-destination with these known events. And they are known, not
fancied in any way.
I don't like the idea of pre-destination...No, don't care for it at
all. On the scale of the Universe we are..to say the
least..infinitismally insignificant. If pre-destination also
reigns...well, what are we?
Any God would concern himself for us even less than we esteem bacteria.
Werewolfy
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