Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and customs
from around the world."
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15 Apr 2004 09:47:43 PM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
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Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and customs
from around the world."
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Many communities won't allow church bells to ring. This one will never fly..
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16 Apr 2004 04:57:49 AM |
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"dreamwalker"
wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040415115415.17367.00000490@mb-m16.aol.com...
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the
United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free
Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I
don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its
noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to
wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree
at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's
meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border
in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In
America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and
customs
from around the world."
Many communities won't allow church >bells to ring. This one will never fly..
You want to bet?
Tony
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17 Apr 2004 12:38:34 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040416055749.03548.00000324@mb-m25.aol.com...
"dreamwalker"
wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040415115415.17367.00000490@mb-m16.aol.com...
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the
United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free
Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I
don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its
noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to
wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree
at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's
meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border
in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In
America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and
customs
from around the world."
Many communities won't allow church >bells to ring. This one will never fly..
You want to bet?
Tony
Sure Tony. I can see it now. Islamic call to prayer on Red Cliff Indian Reservation. It might happen
where you live, but here on the Res, we'll scalp the fuckers and feed 'em to our mutts before
allowing some weird "call to prayer" *****.
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17 Apr 2004 06:18:45 AM |
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"dreamwalker"
wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040416055749.03548.00000324@mb-m25.aol.com...
"dreamwalker"
wrote:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040415115415.17367.00000490@mb-m16.aol.com...
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of
the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the
Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of
Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early
as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the
United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free
Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said.
"I
don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its
noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council
reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any
change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going
to
wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to
bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to
disagree
at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's
meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of
the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal
lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the
border
in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In
America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and
customs
from around the world."
Many communities won't allow church >bells to ring. This one will never
fly..
You want to bet?
Tony
Sure Tony. I can see it now. Islamic call >to prayer on Red Cliff Indian
Reservation. It might happen
where you live, but here on the Res, we'll >scalp the fuckers and feed 'em to
our mutts before allowing some weird >"call to prayer" *****.
LOL, you're right, it might happen here and in other urban areas.
Sounds like I should move up there with you guys.
Tony
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In article <20040415115415.17367.00000490@mb-m16.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
Don't they have a noise ordinance that stipulates how often and during what
hours churches may ring their bells? Perhaps if they craft such a law, based on
other communities, they can avoid claims of discrimination. (Also include
lawnmowing and the like).
6AM is ridiculously early for most people on a weekend.
Woods
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16 Apr 2004 04:58:46 AM |
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woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
Don't they have a noise ordinance that stipulates how often and during what
hours churches may ring their bells? Perhaps if they craft such a law, based
on
other communities, they can avoid claims of discrimination. (Also include
lawnmowing and the like).
6AM is ridiculously early for most people >on a weekend.
Woods
How dare you be so inconsiderate of another religion and culture?
Tony <----------tongue in cheek
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16 Apr 2004 01:17:35 PM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:20040416055846.03548.00000325@mb-m25.aol.com...
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
tonyz2001@aol.com (TonyZ2001) wrote:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of
the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the
Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of
Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early
as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
Don't they have a noise ordinance that stipulates how often and during
what
hours churches may ring their bells? Perhaps if they craft such a law,
based
on
other communities, they can avoid claims of discrimination. (Also
include
lawnmowing and the like).
6AM is ridiculously early for most people >on a weekend.
Woods
How dare you be so inconsiderate of another religion and culture?
Tony <----------tongue in cheek
Tongue up guernon's arse more likely!
WH
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16 Apr 2004 04:48:16 PM |
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In article <20040416055846.03548.00000325@mb-m25.aol.com>, (TonyZ2001) wrote:
woodswun@tepidmail.com
wrote:
(TonyZ2001) wrote:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
Don't they have a noise ordinance that stipulates how often and during what
hours churches may ring their bells? Perhaps if they craft such a law, based
on
other communities, they can avoid claims of discrimination. (Also include
lawnmowing and the like).
6AM is ridiculously early for most people >on a weekend.
Woods
How dare you be so inconsiderate of another religion and culture?
LOL!
Truth to tell, I'd be perfectly willing to be equally "inconsiderate" of any
Christian church with the gall to try to ring bells at 6 am in a populated area.
(Ditto for anyone mowing their lawns!)
'Course, can't do much about tractors plowing their fields at the crack of dawn
on weekends where I am, but then, nobody around here sleeps in, so it's not
disruptive .... ;-)
Woods
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15 Apr 2004 11:39:36 AM |
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It's not like in 500 A.D., time is everywhere, at worst they can use alarm
clock. In today,s world they can have a Muslim TV channel for that *****, open
all the time in their house if needs be.
No need to bother people in the street, heel even in Isalmic countries, this is
an anachronism in 2004.
Certainly is unacceptable anywhere in any Western civilized countries anyway.
That's for sure.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and customs
from around the world."
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16 Apr 2004 01:12:46 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:cVyfc.2273706$iA2.262528@news.easynews.com...
It's not like in 500 A.D., time is everywhere, at worst they can use alarm
clock. In today,s world they can have a Muslim TV channel for that *****,
open
all the time in their house if needs be.
No need to bother people in the street, heel even in Isalmic countries,
this is
an anachronism in 2004.
Certainly is unacceptable anywhere in any Western civilized countries
anyway.
That's for sure.
J.
Bigotted ***** guernon!
WH
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17 Apr 2004 12:16:50 AM |
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How many time must you be reminded my gender. You are to o drunk to remember?
You know, the terrorists you kiss the butts to do not approve you drinking like
that.
They don't, even approve you drinking at all.
You should go there if you think I am bigoted because I prone freedom of expression.
Go bathe in the constant yelling of Arabic whining about you being the devil
because you drink, idiot.
Bad bad habit.
Go ahead, move there, wino.
Once you stop drinking, 'cause they will force you to there, maybe you will wake
up one day and remember my gender, drunken idiot.
J.
WH a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:cVyfc.2273706$iA2.262528@news.easynews.com...
It's not like in 500 A.D., time is everywhere, at worst they can use alarm
clock. In today,s world they can have a Muslim TV channel for that *****,
open
all the time in their house if needs be.
No need to bother people in the street, heel even in Isalmic countries,
this is
an anachronism in 2004.
Certainly is unacceptable anywhere in any Western civilized countries
anyway.
That's for sure.
J.
Bigotted ***** guernon!
WH
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17 Apr 2004 09:10:50 AM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:653gc.13325000$Of.2214520@news.easynews.com...
How many time must you be reminded my gender. You are to o drunk to
remember?
You know, the terrorists you kiss the butts to do not approve you drinking
like
that.
They don't, even approve you drinking at all.
You should go there if you think I am bigoted because I prone freedom of
expression.
Go bathe in the constant yelling of Arabic whining about you being the
devil
because you drink, idiot.
Bad bad habit.
Go ahead, move there, wino.
Once you stop drinking, 'cause they will force you to there, maybe you
will wake
up one day and remember my gender, drunken idiot.
J.
You won't rile me like that guernon you stipid *****! You're the idiot, not
me. Drop the issue and concentrate on a word I used yes go ahead. Fucked if
I care. You know the context that I used the word in unless you are even
stupider than you portray yourself here on APN
And by the way...calling you a "*****" says nothing about your gender.
Actually, after seeing that picture of you I would guess that you're
genderless.
WH
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18 Apr 2004 08:19:16 AM |
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"WH"
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You won't rile me like that guernon you >stipid *****!
Uh, certainly seemd like he did, eh?
Tony
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18 Apr 2004 09:22:24 PM |
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I'm sorry but I'm having a hard time believing that Muhammad even had a
winged horse
I don't think he went from Makkah to Jerusalem on this winged horse
~
I just think the Arabs want a claim on Jerusalem and that it's just all
*****....
I think both Zena, warrior princess, and Sheena of the jungle both had
flying Zebras...
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17 Apr 2004 02:50:17 PM |
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Maybe a ***** in your culture means something else like a fag means a cigarette?
What do I care. Here, you insisting on this stupidity in international language
just shows you are clueless.
Still would have to stop drinking if you lived under the skirts of the Mullahs, WH.
Woooooooo
J.
WH a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:653gc.13325000$Of.2214520@news.easynews.com...
How many time must you be reminded my gender. You are to o drunk to
remember?
You know, the terrorists you kiss the butts to do not approve you drinking
like
that.
They don't, even approve you drinking at all.
You should go there if you think I am bigoted because I prone freedom of
expression.
Go bathe in the constant yelling of Arabic whining about you being the
devil
because you drink, idiot.
Bad bad habit.
Go ahead, move there, wino.
Once you stop drinking, 'cause they will force you to there, maybe you
will wake
up one day and remember my gender, drunken idiot.
J.
You won't rile me like that guernon you stipid *****! You're the idiot, not
me. Drop the issue and concentrate on a word I used yes go ahead. Fucked if
I care. You know the context that I used the word in unless you are even
stupider than you portray yourself here on APN
And by the way...calling you a "*****" says nothing about your gender.
Actually, after seeing that picture of you I would guess that you're
genderless.
WH
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17 Apr 2004 09:44:00 AM |
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On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:10:50 +0200, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:653gc.13325000$Of.2214520@news.easynews.com...
How many time must you be reminded my gender. You are to o drunk to
remember?
You know, the terrorists you kiss the butts to do not approve you drinking
like
that.
They don't, even approve you drinking at all.
You should go there if you think I am bigoted because I prone freedom of
expression.
Go bathe in the constant yelling of Arabic whining about you being the
devil
because you drink, idiot.
Bad bad habit.
Go ahead, move there, wino.
Once you stop drinking, 'cause they will force you to there, maybe you
will wake
up one day and remember my gender, drunken idiot.
J.
You won't rile me like that guernon you stipid *****! You're the idiot, not
me. Drop the issue and concentrate on a word I used yes go ahead. Fucked if
I care. You know the context that I used the word in unless you are even
stupider than you portray yourself here on APN
And by the way...calling you a "*****" says nothing about your gender.
Actually, after seeing that picture of you I would guess that you're
genderless.
WH
Just ask CourtneyLuv, she seems to know a lot about Guernon. In case
you missed it:
When I first found this NG I noticed that one of the frequent contributors was a "Jean Guernon." It really surprised me to find him here. Reading his twisted posts, I realized it truly had to be the same Jean I sexually satisfied through a Montreal-based escort service. He had been one of our clients for the last two years, and often chose me among at least three others--both male and female.
I want to tell you that I've worked in this profession since I was 21. I am now 29, female, and heavily stacked. Jean really likes my huge tits. He is quite fixated on my saline mammaries. He once told me, "I love your tits, they are like my mother's." I am also half Eskimo, half French-Canadian. I speak both dialects. I am a college graduate with a higher than average IQ. .
I want alt.prophecies.nostradamus posters to know some things about Jean they might find quite interesting.
When I began to provide my special talents for Jean to enjoy, which included bondage and golden showers (I pee on his penis while he masturbates), Jean was quite nice and docile. But, as we met more for liasons (at a motel room), he became increasingly abusive. That forced me to terminate our relationship. My employer, as does any escort service I'm familiar with, will not allow physical abuse in the form of back-handed slapping, punching, kicking, etc. I could've reported him to the police, but I'd been legally in trouble as well (not to mention the escort service). So, I told Jean, "no more" and said good bye.
He then threatened to beat me up, telling me, "After I get through with you, you'll have a face no man would find pretty anymore." He flew into a rage and called me every name in the slang dictionary, including "demon fucking dumbshit *****, daughter of fucking Satan," or, "Jezebel of inequity, slutty spawn of the fucking AntiChrist." He would say, "You are not worth my superior nut juice because it is divine and you are filthy and evil." Much of his verbal abuse was colored with strange religious references. I will not say anymore about that aspect. It is very disturbing. Perhaps, NGers here can understand it anyway.
I didn't know Jean was some kind of author until he told me one night that he wrote a book on Nostradamus. I was vaguely familiar with the prophet, having read a few magazine articles. He told me that he was a "gifted, great writer and researcher" (his own words) and (after becoming verbally abusive) that I should lick his ***** while reading some "quatrains" about World War III. I did that with some reservations, and it was quite odd, let me tell you.
He gave me a copy of his book. He then would say, "*****, read this quatrain (whatever number it was, I don't recall), then lick my smooth cute ***** and thank God for the special privilege." Jean would tell me many times he didn't care about people much anymore because we are "all evil and sick" and should be "destroyed by God." I felt he was mentally ill and needed help, but I, of course, said nothing. Some of my clients have severe psychological problems. It's just part of the profession. I generally accept it, but his case was exceptional.
If you think this post is phony, I wouldn't blame you. But, I assure you I am telling the truth. Jean, in my opinion, is a suicidal drugged or drunken man, quite depressed and full of hostility towards people. He snorts coke, drinks heavily. He sometimes has nose bleeds. He may, in fact, be dangerous if he doesn't seek professional help. I feel somewhat sorry for him at times.
Jean told me the world would soon face a great holy war and he expected to be delivered from it before it came. He said God thought he was quite special and deserved saving, and that most human beings shouldn't be spared a horrible death. In fact, he would tell me that humans are "freaks of the Universe" and needed to be cleansed in some way of their "filthiness, lies, and ugiliness."
I have much more to say, but I will let it go unsaid at this point. But, suffice to say, Jean was one of my most unusual clients and was very scary towards the end of our relationship. He knows who I am and that I am not lying, but he will of course deny all of what I have said here. I expect he will try to "get even" with me, and I do fear for my safety. I have taken precautionary measures to try to keep him from finding me. I have just quit the Montreal escort service and moved. Yet, I felt it is important for NGers here to understand some of his tormented hidden life. It might shed light on his hostile attitude and other character traits so prevalent in his postings. Sorry, Jean, but you angered me and abused me, and "Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn." You asked for it and now you've gotten (some) of it. You can't keep hurting, threatening, abusing people without bad consequences. Get help, Jean.
CourtneyLuvP
Hahahahahaah. Your true colors are showing Guernon. Hahahahahaha
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17 Apr 2004 02:52:23 PM |
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Zak a écrit:
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 16:10:50 +0200, "WH" <bollogs@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:653gc.13325000$Of.2214520@news.easynews.com...
How many time must you be reminded my gender. You are to o drunk to
remember?
You know, the terrorists you kiss the butts to do not approve you drinking
like
that.
They don't, even approve you drinking at all.
You should go there if you think I am bigoted because I prone freedom of
expression.
Go bathe in the constant yelling of Arabic whining about you being the
devil
because you drink, idiot.
Bad bad habit.
Go ahead, move there, wino.
Once you stop drinking, 'cause they will force you to there, maybe you
will wake
up one day and remember my gender, drunken idiot.
J.
You won't rile me like that guernon you stipid *****! You're the idiot, not
me. Drop the issue and concentrate on a word I used yes go ahead. Fucked if
I care. You know the context that I used the word in unless you are even
stupider than you portray yourself here on APN
And by the way...calling you a "*****" says nothing about your gender.
Actually, after seeing that picture of you I would guess that you're
genderless.
WH
Just ask CourtneyLuv, she seems to know a lot about Guernon. In case
you missed it:
You know damn well this is a stupid lie. This guy has no clue about me.
You are a fraud as well WH.
You should go drown yourself in your green beer in greenland.
J.
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15 Apr 2004 12:10:17 PM |
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Jean Guernon a écrit:
It's not like in 500 A.D., time is everywhere, at worst they can use
alarm clock. In today,s world they can have a Muslim TV channel for that
*****, open all the time in their house if needs be.
No need to bother people in the street, heel even in Isalmic countries,
this is an anachronism in 2004.
Certainly is unacceptable anywhere in any Western civilized countries
anyway. That's for sure.
J.
In fact, it doesn't really change much in countries where the dictatorship of
Islamists made it a culture not to tolerate other religions, or barely do as
long as they hide themselves, like they do in all islamic republics.
It is part of the culture in a way to be intolerant to such an extent, despite
the anachronism, it has become a the middle age perpetuated custom even if they
now benefit from modern life Maybe that is a reason why the most fanatics rebel
against all technology? LOL
Anyway, in civilized open countries, this would be backwards. Imagine any other
religion imposing to the whole community their periodic whining 5 times a day to
go in their church. Only Muslims are so insecure as to impose that to their flock.
In free countries, freedom of worship implies not to be bothered by undesired
solicitation. Constant quintuple daily solicitation in cities where people lead
normal lives is unthinkable! Maybe once a week, on fridays, for 2-3 minutes at
worst, but with music, like we do on sundays with church bells, can be
acceptable. But certainly not daily harassment.
The fact is that in their countries, they do not lead normal lives. They all are
subject to this religion, which is in the law, and the Mullahs, who rule over
this daily shouting, get 20% of the GNP to impose their religious dictatorship.
It is hard to convince them to embrace the modern concept of freedom of worship
there.
But surely, here, in the free world, there is no reason to allow that middle age
anachronism to happen.
J.
TonyZ2001 a écrit:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members
of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the
Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of
Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early
as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of
the United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free
Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said.
"I don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter
its noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council
reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any
change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going
to wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to
bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to
disagree at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's
meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of
the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal
lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the
border in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In
America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people
and customs
from around the world."
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| User: "WH" |
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16 Apr 2004 01:16:33 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:Zlzfc.13219645$Of.2202743@news.easynews.com...
Jean Guernon a écrit:
It's not like in 500 A.D., time is everywhere, at worst they can use
alarm clock. In today,s world they can have a Muslim TV channel for that
*****, open all the time in their house if needs be.
No need to bother people in the street, heel even in Isalmic countries,
this is an anachronism in 2004.
Certainly is unacceptable anywhere in any Western civilized countries
anyway. That's for sure.
J.
In fact, it doesn't really change much in countries where the dictatorship
of
Islamists made it a culture not to tolerate other religions, or barely do
as
long as they hide themselves, like they do in all islamic republics.
It is part of the culture in a way to be intolerant to such an extent,
despite
the anachronism, it has become a the middle age perpetuated custom even if
they
now benefit from modern life Maybe that is a reason why the most fanatics
rebel
against all technology? LOL
Anyway, in civilized open countries, this would be backwards. Imagine any
other
religion imposing to the whole community their periodic whining 5 times a
day to
go in their church. Only Muslims are so insecure as to impose that to
their flock.
In free countries, freedom of worship implies not to be bothered by
undesired
solicitation.
No bells on Canadian churches that ring a quarter of an hour or so before
the next mass?
Or at 12.00 midday, 18.00 afternoon?
Constant quintuple daily solicitation in cities where people lead
normal lives is unthinkable!
Istanbul, Izmir, <<==and they are civilized cities where people lead normal
lives.
Maybe once a week, on fridays, for 2-3 minutes at
worst, but with music, like we do on sundays with church bells, can be
acceptable. But certainly not daily harassment.
The fact is that in their countries, they do not lead normal lives. They
all are
subject to this religion, which is in the law, and the Mullahs, who rule
over
this daily shouting, get 20% of the GNP to impose their religious
dictatorship.
It is hard to convince them to embrace the modern concept of freedom of
worship
there.
But surely, here, in the free world, there is no reason to allow that
middle age
anachronism to happen.
J.
Stupid bigotted *****.
WH
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17 Apr 2004 06:16:16 AM |
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"WH"
wrote:
Istanbul, Izmir, <<==and they are >civilized cities where people lead normal
lives.
Oh, so you're only bigoted toward religious Muslims?
Tony
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17 Apr 2004 09:11:46 AM |
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"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:20040417071616.08929.00000063@mb-m11.aol.com...
"WH"
wrote:
Istanbul, Izmir, <<==and they are >civilized cities where people lead
normal
lives.
Oh, so you're only bigoted toward religious Muslims?
Tony
What is this pantyboy?
Explain what the ***** you re on about.
WH
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17 Apr 2004 02:56:49 PM |
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WH a écrit:
"TonyZ2001" <tonyz2001@aol.com> skrev i meddelandet
news:20040417071616.08929.00000063@mb-m11.aol.com...
"WH"
wrote:
Istanbul, Izmir, <<==and they are >civilized cities where people lead
normal
lives.
Oh, so you're only bigoted toward religious Muslims?
Tony
What is this pantyboy?
Explain what the ***** you re on about.
WH
WH is ok with Muslims not tolerating his drinking in Islamic country, as long as
they don't request it from him in Sweden. LOL
This is a good example of the partiality WH suffers from, not to mention his
memory loss due to excessive drinking. Sometimes he even forgets that it is him
who drinks, not me. LOL
J.
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17 Apr 2004 12:11:58 AM |
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To be mistaken even about my gender (as you are about everythign else) you must
either be drunk, or else you are getting into permanent ethylic stupor from
acoholic delirium tremens; your brain is shrinking WH.
Go to http://www.aa.org before you sink any further into the black hole of the
hobo world you are getting so familiar with.
J.
WH a écrit:
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> skrev i meddelandet
news:Zlzfc.13219645$Of.2202743@news.easynews.com...
Jean Guernon a écrit:
It's not like in 500 A.D., time is everywhere, at worst they can use
alarm clock. In today,s world they can have a Muslim TV channel for that
*****, open all the time in their house if needs be.
No need to bother people in the street, heel even in Isalmic countries,
this is an anachronism in 2004.
Certainly is unacceptable anywhere in any Western civilized countries
anyway. That's for sure.
J.
In fact, it doesn't really change much in countries where the dictatorship
of
Islamists made it a culture not to tolerate other religions, or barely do
as
long as they hide themselves, like they do in all islamic republics.
It is part of the culture in a way to be intolerant to such an extent,
despite
the anachronism, it has become a the middle age perpetuated custom even if
they
now benefit from modern life Maybe that is a reason why the most fanatics
rebel
against all technology? LOL
Anyway, in civilized open countries, this would be backwards. Imagine any
other
religion imposing to the whole community their periodic whining 5 times a
day to
go in their church. Only Muslims are so insecure as to impose that to
their flock.
In free countries, freedom of worship implies not to be bothered by
undesired
solicitation.
No bells on Canadian churches that ring a quarter of an hour or so before
the next mass?
Or at 12.00 midday, 18.00 afternoon?
Constant quintuple daily solicitation in cities where people lead
normal lives is unthinkable!
Istanbul, Izmir, <<==and they are civilized cities where people lead normal
lives.
Maybe once a week, on fridays, for 2-3 minutes at
worst, but with music, like we do on sundays with church bells, can be
acceptable. But certainly not daily harassment.
The fact is that in their countries, they do not lead normal lives. They
all are
subject to this religion, which is in the law, and the Mullahs, who rule
over
this daily shouting, get 20% of the GNP to impose their religious
dictatorship.
It is hard to convince them to embrace the modern concept of freedom of
worship
there.
But surely, here, in the free world, there is no reason to allow that
middle age
anachronism to happen.
J.
Stupid bigotted *****.
WH
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| User: "Charly the Bastard" |
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16 Apr 2004 12:46:33 PM |
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TonyZ2001 wrote:
Will you wake up to Islamic prayer call?
U.S. Muslims liken loudspeakers on mosques to church bells
Posted: April 15, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern
2004 WorldNetDaily.com
A holy war of sorts is heating up in a Detroit suburb, where members of the
local Muslim community want loudspeakers on mosques to announce the Islamic
call to prayer five times each day.
But the idea is running into opposition from other residents of Hamtramck,
Mich., many of whom are Christian, who think the prayer calls as early as 6
a.m. and as late as 10 p.m. would be disruptive.
"When you call to prayer, you are proselytizing, and as a citizen of the United
States I don't want to hear it," Bob Golen, 68, told the Detroit Free Press.
"It is not my God. My God is Jesus Christ," Caroline Zarski, 81, said. "I don't
want this noise invading my home at 10 p.m."
The Al-Islah Islamic Center asked the city three months ago to alter its noise
ordinance to allow the calls to prayer. In February, the council reportedly
supported the change but sought a public hearing before making any change.
"We don't want to make it a big deal," said businessman Abdul Algazali,
according to the Free Press. "It's a low-pitched voice. It's not going to wake
up anybody."
City Council President Karen Majewski compared the call to prayer to bells
ringing on Christian churches, though other residents were said to disagree at
Tuesday's meeting.
Majewski says the loudspeaker measure is likely to pass at next week's meeting,
and would subsequently take effect in late May.
"Petitions have circulated among mainly white and Christian members of the
community for weeks asking the council not to amend the ordinance," said
Councilman Scott Klein. "Both sides have issued threats of federal lawsuits
based on the constitutionality of the ban or the removal of the ban."
There are five mosques in Hamtramck, and three others just over the border in
Detroit.
On its website, the city says it provides "A Touch of THE WORLD In America,"
touting itself as "the home of the most varied ethnic mix of people and customs
from around the world."
Wait till Hell Night and burn the place to the ground, then blame it on teenage
punks. Detroit burns every Halloween, no one would notice.
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