World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged Israel to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide strip of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14 international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a move to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations. But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in 1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted dozens of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel in The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions to the
conflict.
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09 Jul 2004 01:57:05 PM |
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Get out the bull dozers and lets have a party then!
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all 21 universes constantly and at random.
Oh Joy & Lysergically Yours!
Tom
The Psychedelick Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
Saint Isadore of Laytonville
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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10 Jul 2004 06:37:47 AM |
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So if they don t, will they be a trade and buisness boycott of israel?
like what happened to South Africa?
They have ***** all countries to trade with now, and with a ban in place,
there would be no-one, except maybe the american stooges to trade with,
but america cant afford to loose any trade deals.
Or would the UN go in and pull it down??
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13 Jul 2004 02:26:17 AM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 11:37:47 GMT, Paine <paine@paine.paine> wrote:
So if they don t, will they be a trade and buisness boycott of israel?
like what happened to South Africa?
They have ***** all countries to trade with now, and with a ban in place,
there would be no-one, except maybe the american stooges to trade with,
but america cant afford to loose any trade deals.
Or would the UN go in and pull it down??
well, let us just watch America's double standards exhibit itself. I
guess it boils down to what is more beneficial to them, as usual. A
regime change in SA was certainly a nice prospect for them.
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10 Jul 2004 06:39:48 AM |
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Paine wrote:
So if they don t, will there be a trade and buisness boycott of israel?
like what happened to South Africa?
They have ***** all countries to trade with now, and with a ban in place,
there would be no-one, except maybe the american stooges to trade with,
but america cant afford to loose any trade deals.
Or would the UN go in and pull it down??
Aye,I'm real sleepy, if you can follow that, good for you
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10 Jul 2004 10:58:57 AM |
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I'm investing in Bull Dozer stock ASAP.
Tangents are infinite in all of nature in
all 21 universes constantly and at random.
Oh Joy & Lysergically Yours!
Tom
The Psychedelick Pope
Patron Saint of the Internet
Saint Isadore of Laytonville
http://www.apple2.org.za/gswv/me/
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10 Jul 2004 12:51:34 PM |
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MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
Dr. Blunt -------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote in message
news:ccm4qe023e9@news1.newsguy.com...
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged Israel
to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide strip
of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a move
to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in 1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle
East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more
than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted dozens
of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel in
The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier
re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the
West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had
long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line
between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions to
the
conflict.
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11 Jul 2004 03:25:31 AM |
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Dr. Blunt a écrit:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
So that terrorists can shoot into Israel? If this court was any valid,
it would put the condition that Arafat does the first step of the road
map and get the terrorists.
But hey ar a bunch of anti-Semite clown who get together to bash the
Jews. They should never exist. Who has ever heard of a court that is not
binding? What the ***** is that? Fucking buffoon who furthermore only
listen only to the terrorists side. WHat kind of court listen to the
fucking killers and disregard those who try to address the problem with
much less bloodshed than if they would allow them to operate more
frequently and thus go get them more frequently? And Israel has the
right to take what it needs for its security, not more, but not less,
according to the resolution (that is based on giving back territories
attackers take, which doesn't cover the land the ones who defended
themselves took, and must keep for their security).
Anyway, this court of clowns belongs in a circus. Not in the UN. Non
binding court, yeah right. No fucking wonder. They only promote hatred
and have no judgment. For a court, it is quite an handicap. They can go
***** themselves.
J.
Dr. Blunt -------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote in message
news:ccm4qe023e9@news1.newsguy.com...
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged Israel
to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide strip
of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a move
to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in 1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle
East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more
than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted dozens
of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel in
The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier
re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the
West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had
long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line
between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions to
the
conflict.
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11 Jul 2004 03:28:36 AM |
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Dr. Blunt a écrit:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
So that terrorists can shoot into Israel? If this court was any valid,
it would put the condition that Arafat does the first step of the road
map and get the terrorists.
But they are a bunch of anti-Semite clowns who get together to bash the
Jews. They should never exist. Who has ever heard of a court that is not
binding? What the ***** is that? Fucking buffoons who furthermore only
listen only to the terrorists side. What kind of court listen to the
fucking killers and disregard those who try to address the problem with
much less bloodshed than if they would allow them to operate more
frequently and thus go get them more frequently? And Israel has the
right to take what it needs for its security, not more, but not less,
according to the spirit of the UN resolution (that is based on giving
back territories attackers take, which doesn't cover the land the ones
who defended themselves took, and must keep for their security).
Anyway, this court of clowns belongs in a circus. Not in the UN. Non
binding court, yeah right. No fucking wonder. They only promote hatred
and have no judgment. For a court, it is quite an handicap. They can go
***** themselves.
J.
P.S. No one was going to be shooting or blowing innocent civilians into
West Berlin when they tore the berlin wall.
Dr. Blunt -------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote in message
news:ccm4qe023e9@news1.newsguy.com...
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged Israel
to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide strip
of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a move
to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in 1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle
East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more
than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted dozens
of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel in
The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier
re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the
West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had
long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line
between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions to
the
conflict.
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news:MS6Ic.19494185$Of.3232361@news.easynews.com...
Dr. Blunt a écrit:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
So that terrorists can shoot into Israel? If this court was any valid,
it would put the condition that Arafat does the first step of the road
map and get the terrorists.
But they are a bunch of anti-Semite clowns who get together to bash the
Jews. They should never exist. Who has ever heard of a court that is not
binding? What the ***** is that? Fucking buffoons who furthermore only
listen only to the terrorists side. What kind of court listen to the
fucking killers and disregard those who try to address the problem with
much less bloodshed than if they would allow them to operate more
frequently and thus go get them more frequently? And Israel has the
right to take what it needs for its security, not more, but not less,
according to the spirit of the UN resolution (that is based on giving
back territories attackers take, which doesn't cover the land the ones
who defended themselves took, and must keep for their security).
Anyway, this court of clowns belongs in a circus. Not in the UN. Non
binding court, yeah right. No fucking wonder. They only promote hatred
and have no judgment. For a court, it is quite an handicap. They can go
***** themselves.
J.
P.S. No one was going to be shooting or blowing innocent civilians into
West Berlin when they tore the berlin wall.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
MR. ARAFAT, PUT UP A WALL ! !
Dr. Blunt -------------Serving the Usenet's mentally deranged, er, ill
since 1998.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Dr. Blunt -------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
"Marvin The Paranoid Android" <marv@HeartOfGold.com> wrote in message
news:ccm4qe023e9@news1.newsguy.com...
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that
Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of
the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged
Israel
to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said
it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide
strip
of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land
Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable
state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its
associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The
Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along
the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly
and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a
move
to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from
the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in
1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling
was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We
put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle
East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more
than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted
dozens
of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel
in
The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of
being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid
told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier
re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the
West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had
long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line
between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions
to
the
conflict.
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11 Jul 2004 11:43:48 AM |
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Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<MS6Ic.19494185$Of.3232361@news.easynews.com>...
Dr. Blunt a écrit:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
So that terrorists can shoot into Israel? If this court was any valid,
it would put the condition that Arafat does the first step of the road
map and get the terrorists.
*****-off guernon you big ball of fur! The world court get it...the
fuckin' world. You and your ignorant ***** are insignificant. You
keep harping on and on and on ad infinitum about how the poor old
Israeli's have it. You're as thick as pantyboy and as pig ignorant.
Now go drown yourself!!!
WH
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11 Jul 2004 01:48:33 PM |
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Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
bollogs a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<MS6Ic.19494185$Of.3232361@news.easynews.com>...
Dr. Blunt a écrit:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
So that terrorists can shoot into Israel? If this court was any valid,
it would put the condition that Arafat does the first step of the road
map and get the terrorists.
*****-off guernon you big ball of fur! The world court get it...the
fuckin' world. You and your ignorant ***** are insignificant. You
keep harping on and on and on ad infinitum about how the poor old
Israeli's have it. You're as thick as pantyboy and as pig ignorant.
Now go drown yourself!!!
WH
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13 Jul 2004 12:53:08 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
bollogs a écrit:
Jean Guernon <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message news:<MS6Ic.19494185$Of.3232361@news.easynews.com>...
Dr. Blunt a écrit:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
So that terrorists can shoot into Israel? If this court was any valid,
it would put the condition that Arafat does the first step of the road
map and get the terrorists.
*****-off guernon you big ball of fur! The world court get it...the
fuckin' world. You and your ignorant ***** are insignificant. You
keep harping on and on and on ad infinitum about how the poor old
Israeli's have it. You're as thick as pantyboy and as pig ignorant.
Now go drown yourself!!!
WH
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14 Jul 2004 07:18:47 AM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
He's your run of the mill 16th century Catholic, a typical anti-semite.
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15 Jul 2004 07:30:33 AM |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:18:47 +0200, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:u4u6f0lelqqqoihqu47nm9pftt7k120vau@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
He's your run of the mill 16th century Catholic, a typical anti-semite.
yeah. they called Jews heretics! burnt them at the stake!
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15 Jul 2004 07:45:22 AM |
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"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:v5ucf0tou2qkkt31i1capn0ji1a16nocf8@4ax.com...
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:18:47 +0200, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:u4u6f0lelqqqoihqu47nm9pftt7k120vau@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who
care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
He's your run of the mill 16th century Catholic, a typical anti-semite.
yeah. they called Jews heretics! burnt them at the stake!
ah.. apparently this has been "debunked" before in this newsgroup by...
guess who?
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15 Jul 2004 11:31:27 AM |
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Cuan a écrit:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:18:47 +0200, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
He's your run of the mill 16th century Catholic, a typical anti-semite.
yeah. they called Jews heretics!
So did all other monotheist religions in the 16th centuries.
burnt them at the stake!
Prove it.
J.
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<pre wrap="">"Cuan" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:an@nymous.co.za"><an@nymous.co.za></a> wrote in message
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<pre wrap="">On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
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<pre wrap="">Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
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<pre wrap="">*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
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So did all other monotheist religions in the 16th centuries.<br>
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Prove it.<br>
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16 Jul 2004 01:49:02 AM |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 16:31:27 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jeanguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Cuan a écrit:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:18:47 +0200, "tw" <no@no.com> wrote:
"Cuan" <an@nymous.co.za> wrote in message
news:u4u6f0lelqqqoihqu47nm9pftt7k120vau@4ax.com...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
*moan* *moan* *moan*
Are you a Jew?
He's your run of the mill 16th century Catholic, a typical anti-semite.
yeah. they called Jews heretics!
So did all other monotheist religions in the 16th centuries.
burnt them at the stake!
Prove it.
I don't have to. You can't prove any of the drivel you write.
....but I might have a charred finger lying around here somewhere.
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12 Jul 2004 08:03:54 AM |
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
Israel has no right to the land they have stolen. The only thing
keeping those fucking Jews from getting nuked is your pond scum
Jew-Ran American assholes.
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12 Jul 2004 04:15:36 PM |
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Only in your terrorists' ***** kissing dreams, zaakaasss.
J.
Zak@home.com a écrit:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:48:33 GMT, Jean Guernon
<jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote:
Who care for these anti-semite clowns? They can't do anything. Who care
for a buffoon like you here? Israel is within its right.
***** yourself, drunken *****.
J.
Israel has no right to the land they have stolen. The only thing
keeping those fucking Jews from getting nuked is your pond scum
Jew-Ran American assholes.
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10 Jul 2004 01:45:49 PM |
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On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:51:34 -0700, Dr. Blunt overjoyed me with this news:
MR. SHARON, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL ! !
Dr. Blunt -------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
<nelson> HA! HA! </nelson>
Famous lines from the Great Communicator, Ronnie Reagan
Brandenburg Gate, West Berlin, Germany June 12, 1987
Good one by the Good Doctor.
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11 Jul 2004 12:52:40 AM |
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They don't give any alternative to the shooting into Israel or the
homicide bombers. World court my *****. Fucking bastards don't rule that
the PA should address the fucking terrroists, just as the first step to
the road map requires. These trash of humanity should be flushed out of
the world. What they are is anti-smemite assholes.
J.
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged Israel to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide strip of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14 international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a move to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations. But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in 1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted dozens of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel in The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions to the
conflict.
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12 Jul 2004 12:05:23 PM |
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:IA4Ic.461968$ef4.53889@news.easynews.com...
They don't give any alternative to the shooting into Israel or the
homicide bombers. World court my *****. Fucking bastards don't rule that
the PA should address the fucking terrroists, just as the first step to
the road map requires. These trash of humanity should be flushed out of
the world. What they are is anti-smemite assholes.
J.
I agree that the trash of humanity should be flushed out of the world, but
disagree on who's the trash. And I don't know how realistically any of us
will ever get rid of all the people we find reprehensible. I suspect your
black list is much longer than mine.
Right now, I'm working on getting you and Tony plunged through but the
Usenet toilet keeps backing up with your mountains of excrement. May have
to go down into the basement for this jam...
"World court my *****." Jean, the world will never court your ***** so
there's no use wasting your time giving it commands. ROFL
Israel violated the accords and illegally built Jewish settlements on land
forbidden by those agreements and you know it. It was an act of disrespect
and clearly provocative. It did not show good faith. The
Palestinian-Israeli issue was better handled under the Clinton
administration.
If I were Arafat, I'd announce construction of their own wall to protect
them from Israeli soldiers. A wall within a wall. It's so patently
ridiculous to think you can improve relations with physical dividers.
Yes, it's true the Berlin Wall was built to keep people divided, to
maintain territory claimed by the USSR. It proved to be a terrible mistake
that helped denote the tyranny of that communist empire. Sharon's wall
will be regarded the same way in history. He is a fascist thinker, a war
criminal and unpopular, barely hanging on to power over there. He
should've been in the World Court for the invasion and occupation of
Lebanon 20 years ago. I'd like to personally kick his big fat *****. Oh no,
that means I'm anti-semitic in your twisted view. Aaaah...doesn't matter
to me.
Dr. Blunt----------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that
Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of
the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged
Israel to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said
it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide
strip of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land
Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable
state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its
associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The
Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along
the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly
and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a
move to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from
the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in
1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling
was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We
put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle
East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more
than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted
dozens of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel
in The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of
being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid
told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier
re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the
West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had
long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line
between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions
to the
conflict.
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13 Jul 2004 09:20:39 AM |
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"Dr. Blunt" <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<ccugcq02ngh@enews4.newsguy.com>...
"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
news:IA4Ic.461968$ef4.53889@news.easynews.com...
They don't give any alternative to the shooting into Israel or the
homicide bombers. World court my *****. Fucking bastards don't rule that
the PA should address the fucking terrroists, just as the first step to
the road map requires. These trash of humanity should be flushed out of
the world. What they are is anti-smemite assholes.
J.
I agree that the trash of humanity should be flushed out of the world, but
disagree on who's the trash. And I don't know how realistically any of us
will ever get rid of all the people we find reprehensible. I suspect your
black list is much longer than mine.
Right now, I'm working on getting you and Tony plunged through but the
Usenet toilet keeps backing up with your mountains of excrement. May have
to go down into the basement for this jam...
"World court my *****." Jean, the world will never court your ***** so
there's no use wasting your time giving it commands. ROFL
Israel violated the accords and illegally built Jewish settlements on land
forbidden by those agreements and you know it. It was an act of disrespect
and clearly provocative. It did not show good faith. The
Palestinian-Israeli issue was better handled under the Clinton
administration.
If I were Arafat, I'd announce construction of their own wall to protect
them from Israeli soldiers. A wall within a wall. It's so patently
ridiculous to think you can improve relations with physical dividers.
Yes, it's true the Berlin Wall was built to keep people divided, to
maintain territory claimed by the USSR. It proved to be a terrible mistake
that helped denote the tyranny of that communist empire. Sharon's wall
will be regarded the same way in history. He is a fascist thinker, a war
criminal and unpopular, barely hanging on to power over there. He
should've been in the World Court for the invasion and occupation of
Lebanon 20 years ago. I'd like to personally kick his big fat *****. Oh no,
that means I'm anti-semitic in your twisted view. Aaaah...doesn't matter
to me.
Dr. Blunt----------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
The Berlin Wall was set up as a physical border.. it wasn't meant to
keep out murderers and terrorists... that is the worst comparison I've
ever heard. The Israeli wall and Berlin wall are NOTHING alike
except... they are walls. Oh wait, the Israeli wall is mostly FENCE!
If you are going to make stupid comments... make sure you've done a
little research and compare.
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that
Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy of
the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged
Israel to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but said
it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide
strip of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land
Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable
state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its
associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The
Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall along
the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General Assembly
and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about a
move to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting from
the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in
1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the ruling
was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday: "We
put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
The ruling was expected to be one of the most closely monitored in the
58-year history of the World Court and attested to paralysis in Middle
East
peacemaking after years of violence.
Israeli officials say the barrier, about a third of whose planned more
than
370-mile length has been built since 2002, has already pre-empted
dozens of
suicide bomb attacks. Such bombers have killed hundreds of Israelis.
"We will abide by the ruling of our own High Court and not the panel
in The
Hague with judges from the European Union who are not suspected of
being
particularly disposed toward Israel," Justice Minister Yosef Lapid
told
Israeli Army Radio Friday.
Five of the 15 judges are from the European Union.
Last week Israel's top court ordered one segment of the barrier
re-routed
to avoid cutting off Palestinian villagers from farms, jobs, public
services and cities, but ruled Israel had a right to build it in the
West
Bank on security grounds.
European Commission spokesman Jean-Christophe Filori said the EU had
long
felt the barrier's route did not adhere to the 1949 armistice line
between
Israel and the West Bank and that it could hinder peaceful solutions
to the
conflict.
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| Title: Re: ***** them. Re: World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal |
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"Ziggy" <ziggyguy10@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Dr. Blunt" <ufocalypse@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Jean Guernon" <jguernon@globetrotter.net> wrote in message
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They don't give any alternative to the shooting into Israel or the
homicide bombers. World court my *****. Fucking bastards don't rule
that
the PA should address the fucking terrroists, just as the first step
to
the road map requires. These trash of humanity should be flushed out
of
the world. What they are is anti-smemite assholes.
J.
I agree that the trash of humanity should be flushed out of the world,
but
disagree on who's the trash. And I don't know how realistically any of
us
will ever get rid of all the people we find reprehensible. I suspect
your
black list is much longer than mine.
Right now, I'm working on getting you and Tony plunged through but the
Usenet toilet keeps backing up with your mountains of excrement. May
have
to go down into the basement for this jam...
"World court my *****." Jean, the world will never court your ***** so
there's no use wasting your time giving it commands. ROFL
Israel violated the accords and illegally built Jewish settlements on
land
forbidden by those agreements and you know it. It was an act of
disrespect
and clearly provocative. It did not show good faith. The
Palestinian-Israeli issue was better handled under the Clinton
administration.
If I were Arafat, I'd announce construction of their own wall to
protect
them from Israeli soldiers. A wall within a wall. It's so patently
ridiculous to think you can improve relations with physical dividers.
Yes, it's true the Berlin Wall was built to keep people divided, to
maintain territory claimed by the USSR. It proved to be a terrible
mistake
that helped denote the tyranny of that communist empire. Sharon's wall
will be regarded the same way in history. He is a fascist thinker, a
war
criminal and unpopular, barely hanging on to power over there. He
should've been in the World Court for the invasion and occupation of
Lebanon 20 years ago. I'd like to personally kick his big fat *****. Oh
no,
that means I'm anti-semitic in your twisted view. Aaaah...doesn't
matter
to me.
Dr. Blunt----------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
The Berlin Wall was set up as a physical border.. it wasn't meant to
keep out murderers and terrorists... that is the worst comparison I've
ever heard. The Israeli wall and Berlin wall are NOTHING alike
except... they are walls. Oh wait, the Israeli wall is mostly FENCE!
If you are going to make stupid comments... make sure you've done a
little research and compare.
Do a little research yourself, fella, before you load your sniper rifle.
And make sure they're not blanks. The USSR considered the West corrupted,
full of murderers, thieves, et al, and of course terrorists from the West
who they propagandized to their people, and to the world, were trying to
compromise their system, or destroy it. They presented this argument
continually, and it was mainly for their people on the East Side of the
Wall to believe and support authority.
Now, one can argue that this was mere propaganda and the West
had no such intention to threaten their system, but if you lived during
the Cold War decades like I did, people were believing a lot of nonsense
(proven to be such later). The USSR's people were fed a daily diet of
scare stories about capitalistic spies and saboteurs, as well as
emphasizing that the West was full of lies, immorality and corruption. Of
course, the USSR was full of the same, and the West countered with its own
propaganda that the USSR was trying to sabotage or terrorize West side
residents. Go back and look over the news items of those decades.
People on the two sides weren't always sure what was propaganda and what
was truth. The wall, the USSR, claimed kept their society, its values, its
system intact as well as protecting its territorial claim.
Now, if you're still following this with an open mind, there are loads of
hate and fear propaganda being spouted daily by the Israeli authorities
and media against the threat of terrorist bombers or snipers coming from
the Palestininian side. And vice versa.
One could argue that Israelis are truly being murdered and threatened, and
Sharon is simply responding militarily to protect Israel, and, in the case
of the Berlin Wall, no real threat or violence was posed by the West
toward the East Bloc. The Palestinians have evidence that Israel's
"punitive measures" have gone far beyond defensive tactics. Yet, my point
is this: The fear of being hurt, killed, tortured, kidnapped, etc.,
pervades the Palestinian-Israeli issue on BOTH sides. It is a very real
fear, and people are acting on it on both sides. Violent acts are
exchanged almost daily.
A physical divider between two groups of people ultimately fails to unite
people, and therefore perpetuates more violence and hate.
The parallels between the Berlin Wall and the "Wall of Sharon" are valid
in the context aforementioned. The Palestinians are being held virtual
prisoners while Israelis enjoy much more freedom of movement, as did the
West side populace of the Berlin Wall.
And, incidentally, part of the Wall is still under construction where it
runs close to businesses and residences. The "wire" fence part you refer
to is in areas where there is more open space to help as a buffer zone.
And that zone is of course surveiled and patrolled. Palestinians are under
constant scrutiny. Still, many acts of terrorism continue against
Israelis.
There will be no military solution to the ideological, religious and
social differences of Muslims and Jews. The Camp David Agreements enacted
by Carter, and signed by Begin and Sadat, have kept two centuries-old
bitter enemies from continually killing and hurting one another for some
25 years now. That is what Sharon and Arafat need to be shooting for...not
shooting at each other.
And that's what I support.
Dr. Blunt -------Serving the Usenet's mentally ill since 1998.
Marvin The Paranoid Android a écrit:
World Court Rules Israel's Barrier Illegal
Fri Jul 9, 2004 08:08 AM ET
By Mark Heinrich
JERUSALEM (Reuters) - The World Court will rule on Friday that
Israel's
West Bank barrier, which has caused hardship for thousands of
Palestinians,
violates international law and should be torn down, a leaked copy
of
the
ruling showed.
A spokesman for the European Commission said the decision seemed
to
confirm
the European Union's view that the barrier was illegal and urged
Israel to
remove it from occupied territory.
Israel has said it will disregard the court's non-binding advisory
decision, calling its barrier a vital security bulwark against
infiltrations by Palestinian suicide bombers.
The court acknowledged Israel's duty to protect its citizens but
said
it
must do so within the law and should compensate Palestinians for
homes
and
land lost or damaged by the building of the 100-meter (yard) wide
strip of
walls, ditches and fences.
Palestinians brand the barrier a precursor to annexation of land
Israel
captured in the 1967 Middle East war and where they seek a viable
state
under a U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.
Only American judge Thomas Buergenthal dissented from his 14
international
colleagues' opinion, the leaked document showed.
The leaked document said the court would declare fences and walls
infringed
the rights of Palestinians trapped by twists and turns in the
barrier
that
take it around Jewish settlements.
"The construction of the wall along the route chosen and its
associated
regime are contrary to international law," said the document
leaked to
Reuters in Jerusalem before its slated 3 p.m. announcement in The
Hague
where the court is based.
"The court is not convinced that the construction of the wall
along
the
route chosen was the only means to safeguard the interests of
Israel
against the peril it invoked as justification," the leaked
document
read.
U.N. ACTION URGED
The leaked text urged follow-up action by the U.N. General
Assembly
and
U.N. Security Council, which could heighten Israeli concern about
a
move to
impose sanctions on the Jewish state.
"The court is of the view that the United Nations, and especially
the
General Assembly and Security Council, should consider what
further
action
is required to bring an end to the illegal situation resulting
from
the
construction of the wall."
Palestinians tend to enjoy considerable support at the United
Nations.
But
Israel looks to the U.S. veto in the Security Council to block any
bid
to
punish it in the way that apartheid South Africa was after the
World
Court
ruled its occupation of South West Africa, now Namibia, illegal in
1971.
WORLD ATTENTION
The World Court, the top U.N. legal body formally known as the
International Court of Justice, acknowledged documents had been
circulated
before its announcement but said in a statement: "The registrar of
the
court wishes to make it clear that the only authentic text is the
official
text issued by the court."
Israeli and Palestinian officials declined comment before the
ruling
was
announced. Palestinian President Yasser Arafat said on Thursday:
"We
put
tremendous faith in this court."
The General Assembly requested an opinion in December and the
Hague
court
held hearings in February overshadowed by public lobbying and
demonstrations from both sides.
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