<jpsmith123@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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George wrote:

If you've got time to whine about Israel, you've got time to actually
look
it up statistics on their economy.

Yo, chumpy, if you're referring to GDP, you're wrong. It's more than 82
billion. I was complaining about the ambiguity of your statement.

But I will give you a small hint. The

U.S. has a 9 trillion dollar annual economy. Israel has an 82 Billion
dollar annual economy,

Wrong.

2 billion of which is composed of grants and loans

from the United States. The 2 billion includes the military support of
which you refer.

Sorry, but you're wrong, again. It's generally more than that, usually
much more.
It's so well obfuscated, carefully concealed, really, that it's hard to
put a number on.
Here's an example from FY2001:

January/February 2001, Pages 15-16

Congress Watch

A Conservative Total for U.S. Aid to Israel: $91 Billion-and Counting

Gee, divide that by the 28 years since the Camp David Agreement (which is
where the U.S. aid originates), and the number comes to 3.25 billion/year,
not far from the number I posted, dude.

By the way, Egypt got about 800 million in aid from us

last year, while Indonesia will get about 5 billion over the next two
years.

Egypt generally gets more than that, so I suspect these figures are as
incorrect as your other figures. In any case, Egypt is basically a
puppet state ruled by a US approved dictator. The money is primarily
used to prop up Mubarak.

Of course, if you had your way, Egypt would be ruled by Zawahiri & Co.,
right?

office, so your point is moot.

Israel because Sharon is in office, which, of course, is also nonsense.

I don't know how much Indonesia will be getting, you'll have to provide
references to back up your figures.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/news/2005/06/mil-050623-327e0913.htm

There was also a new aid package announced for Indonesia, as well as
lifting the sanctions against military cooperation with them, but I don't
have those figures yet.

What I do know is this: With regard to *per capita* amount, with regard
to lack of accountability (Israel gets lots of cash to spend how ever
it wants to), with regard to long term nature, Israel is in a class all
by itself. Your ridiculous hand waving notwithstanding.

Regardless of your Anti-American and Anti-Israel *****-waving,

ally, and what we do with our money is our business.

As for political support, Israel gets that from many nations

(including South Africa, Turkey, Jordan and Egypt, among many others),
not
just the U.S. (although I can already hear you singing about a river
called
de-nial).

ROTFLMAO! I guess by "political support" from "many nations" you mean
U.S. puppet governments getting paid off by the U.S. to publicly
"tolerate" Israel's brutal racism and aggression.

Gee, I guess by puppet governments, you mean relatively moderate states
that don't seen the point in antagonizing the only democracy in the Middle
East, and sees the benefit in promoting peace in the region.

So your ignorance is all the more inexcusable.

And you?

Wow, an ad hominem. I see your credibility light fading.

Apparently you see a lot of things incorrectly.

Are you saying that the above was your way of saying "I love you"?

friends like you, who need enemas!

Well luckily I'm not Jewish, so I don't have to pretend and tell lies
about it.

Neither an I. If I am lying, then you prove that I am. Put up or shut
up.

Well I've just debunked all of your *****, goofball.

Umm, where, exactly have you debunked the fact that I'm not Jewish? You've
not debunked anything. You've simply regurgitated what every fascist,
anti-Israel moron has spewed on usenet practically since its creation.
Which not only makes you uninformed, but qualifies you for the Pierre
Salinger Memorial Hook, Line, and Sinker award.

Umm, what part of millions of Iranians chanting "death to Israel, death
to
America" for the last 27 years don't you understand?

Umm, what part of "chanting" amounts to aggression, chump?

If I get 5 million people to chant "death to JPSmith123" for 27 years, no
doubt you will send me roses and thank me for showing my unreserved
affection for you.

BTW, the
U.S. has done far more damage to Iran than Iran has ever done to the
U.S., but being the ignorant fool you are I wouldn't expect you to have
a clue about that.

Wow, more unsupported propaganda. Wow, that's a new one. Did you find
that one in Irannukesorbust.com, or what?

And idiots like you

think Iran having nukes would be just peachy, kind of like a dog with a
new
chew toy. Get a clue, Mr. Smith.

Yo, *****, Israel and the U.S. have nukes aimed at Iran, no?

I can't speak for Israel. Our nukes have been in standdown mode since the
end of the cold war.

you think that they are, I challange you to prove it.

Who the
hell are Jews and fascist "Christians" to say who can and cannot have
nukes?

Wow, more racist and bigoted ad hominems. Thanks for proving your lack of
any credibity whatsoever.

the sun-centered solar system.

Because that is what we have to do as long as countries like Iran continue
to try to develop nukes while simultaneously calling for our destruction.

As long as nuclear proliferation is not contained, we will remained

with these dreaded weapons.

countries? It appears that you would have any and all countries to be
continuously armed to the hilt with nukes, regardless of their stability or
national/political philosophy.

Who are we to say who can and who can't have nukes?

invented them, who have used them, and know exactly what they do to people
and the environment.

exactly the dangers of nuclear weapons.

most what they can do if they get into the wrong hands.

planet would like to get rid of our nukes more than the American people.

The damage they can do, and the damage producing them have done to our land
is immeasurable, and will remain for many generations to deal with. But as
long as the threat of proliferation persists, when other countries insist
on joining the Armageddon club so they can point them at us and our allies,
the world will continue to teeter on the brink. It is a fact, so face it
Mr. Smith, or whoever you are. Is this what you want for your children and
their children, etc?

In any case, once the U.S. Empire falls
(which is happening already as I type this), that'll be the end of the
abomination known as "Israel", as well. So the world won't have to put
up with it for too much longer.

Oh, gee, can I write that prediction down and keep it safe in my
Nostrodamus magic decoder ring, just in case some future archaeologist
happens to dig up my glow-in-the-dark skeleton?

Well you could, but why not just study some history and see what
arrogance and ignorance do to countries like the U.S. that think they
should rule the world?

Umm, let's review the history, shall we?

we wouldn't have given the Panama Canal back to Panama, and likely would
have taken over the Suez Canal, overrun the Malacca straits (where the vast
majority of the shipping lanes converge). If we wanted to rule the world,
we would have annexed Japan, the Phillipines, Cuba, Canada, Mexico, the
Caribbean, South America, and most of Europe long ago. If we wanted to
rule the world, with the thousands of nukes at our disposal, we'd have made
every effort by now, and likely largely succeeded in doing so for a large
portion of the globe. Uh-Uh? You disagree?

argument is a house of cards,