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World War III NEWS, Monday, April 24th, 2006 AD.......... |
Iran 'models nuclear plan on Pakistan'
By Philip Sherwell in Washington
(Filed: 23/04/2006)
www.telegraph.co.uk/
The United States arms control chief has given warning that Iran is
"very close to the point of no return" in acquiring the technological
expertise to make a nuclear weapon.
"In terms of activities on the ground in Iran, it is fair to say that
the Iranians have put both feet on the accelerator," said Robert
Joseph, the senior US State Department official responsible for
countering nuclear proliferation.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
His comments, which come as the United Nations Security Council
prepares to meet to discuss the crisis this week, indicate that
Washington believes that the stakes are rising rapidly in the West's
confrontation with the Islamic republic.
Earlier this month, Teheran claimed to have enriched uranium for the
nuclear fuel cycle. It has pushed ahead with its programme while taking
advantage of a diplomatic stand-off between Moscow and Washington over
possible UN sanctions.
Iran is following tactics outlined by its former chief nuclear
negotiator in comments to clerics and academics previously unreported
in the West. Hassan Rowhani made clear that Iran's goal was to present
the world with a fait accompli over its nuclear ambitions.
"If, one day, we are able to complete the fuel cycle and the world sees
that it has no choice, that we do possess the technology, then the
situation will be different," he told the Supreme Cultural Revolution
Council. "The world did not want Pakistan to have an atomic bomb or
Brazil to have the fuel cycle, but Pakistan built its bomb and Brazil
has its fuel cycle."
He delivered the speech in September, a month after Iran sparked the
latest stage of its showdown with the international community by
resuming uranium conversion, in breach of previous accords, following
the election of its hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Mr Rowhani reiterated to his audience Iran's public insistence that it
is seeking nuclear technology only for peaceful civilian purposes. But
his comparison to Pakistan's secret development of an atomic weapon is
significant, as Iran acquired much of its nuclear know-how from A Q
Khan, the rogue scientist known as the father of the Pakistani bomb.
During the speech, Mr Rowhani emphasised that Iran had intended to
complete its programme in secret. "This was never supposed to be in the
open. But in any case the spies exposed it," he said, in reference to
the revelation by opposition exiles of Iran's clandestine nuclear
operations.
Karim Sadjadpour, an Iranian analyst with the International Crisis
Group, said Teheran was aiming to shape the debate with its claims.
"Iran is betting that it can redraw the West's red lines by creating
facts on the ground. At the time they re-commenced uranium conversion
activities in Isfahan, last August, much fuss was made in the US and
EU, but it eventually became an irreversible fait accompli. They may
well believe that the West will eventually come to accept their
enrichment activities as well."
The Security Council meets on Friday to hear a report on Iran's nuclear
activities from the International Atomic Energy Agency. But although
the agency's director, Mohamed ElBaradei, is certain to report that
Iran has ignored the ultimatum to halt enrichment work, US, British and
French hopes of moving towards imposing sanctions are slim.
Russia hardened its stand against such punitive measures last week. Its
foreign ministry said Moscow would consider sanctions only if "concrete
facts" emerged that Iran was developing nuclear weapons. China, which
also holds a Security Council veto, leans towards the Russian position.
Iran made an apparent attempt yesterday to confuse the situation ahead
of the UN meeting when it said it had reached a "basic" agreement with
Moscow to enrich uranium in Russia. The announcement made no mention of
whether Teheran would cease enrichment in Iran - a key UN demand.
Last week, Moscow rejected an appeal by Washington to halt the sale of
air defence missile systems to Teheran in a $700 million (=C2=A3392
million) deal. "This is not the time for business as usual with the
Iranian government," said Nicholas Burns, a senior US State Department
official.
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www.timesonline.co.uk/
The Sunday Times April 23, 2006
Iran=E2=80=99s president recruits terror master
Sarah Baxter, Washington and Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv
Plot for revenge attacks on West
IRAN=E2=80=99S president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, attended a meeting in Syria
earlier this year with one of the world=E2=80=99s most wanted terrorists,
according to intelligence experts and a former national security
official in Washington.
US officials and Israel intelligence sources believe Imad Mugniyeh, the
Lebanese commander of Hezbollah=E2=80=99s overseas operations, has taken
charge of plotting Iran=E2=80=99s retaliation against western targets should
President George W Bush order a strike on Iranian nuclear sites.
Mugniyeh is on the FBI=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CMost Wanted Terrorists=E2=80=9D l=
ist for his
role in a series of high-profile attacks against the West, including
the 1985 hijacking of a TWA jet and murder of one of its passengers, a
US navy diver.
Now in his mid-forties, Mugniyeh is reported to have travelled with
Ahmadinejad in January this year from Tehran to Damascus, where the
Iranian president met leaders of Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas.
The meeting has been dubbed a =E2=80=9Cterror summit=E2=80=9D because of the
presence of so many groups behind attacks on Israel, which Ahmadinejad
has threatened to wipe from the map.
Jane=E2=80=99s Intelligence Review cited =E2=80=9Creports in recent weeks=
=E2=80=9D of
Mugniyeh=E2=80=99s presence alongside the president.
Michael Ledeen, a Middle East expert and former Pentagon and National
Security Council official who wrote that Mugniyeh had =E2=80=9Cprobably=E2=
=80=9D
been there, said last week senior American officials had confirmed it.
=E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s hard to identify Mugniyeh because he is said to have =
changed
his face and his fingerprints,=E2=80=9D Ledeen said. =E2=80=9CBut senior go=
vernment
officials have told me I was right. He was there.=E2=80=9D
Shortly after the Damascus summit Henry Crumpton, head of
counter-terrorism at the state department, singled out the elusive
Mugniyeh as a threat. The Iranians, Crumpton said, =E2=80=9Chave complete
command and control of Hezbollah. Imad Mugniyeh works for Tehran. And
you can=E2=80=99t talk about Hezbollah and not think about Iran. They really
are part and parcel of the same problem.=E2=80=9D
Mugniyeh lives in Iran and has evaded capture for more than 20 years,
despite a $5m American bounty on his head. Western intelligence reports
claim he has many connections to terrorist cells in Europe, Africa,
Latin America and the US and he is said to have met Osama Bin Laden.
=E2=80=9CWhen and if the Iranians decide to hit the West in its soft belly,
Imad will be the one to act,=E2=80=9D a western intelligence source said la=
st
week.
An Israeli defence source claimed Mugniyeh was in regular touch with
the new Iranian intelligence minister, Gholamhossein Mohseni Ezhei. The
minister is a long-time confidant of Ahmadinejad and was appointed by
him.
=E2=80=9CWe know that Mohseni Ezhei holds routine meetings with Mugniyeh, w=
ho
is today Iran=E2=80=99s head of overseas operations,=E2=80=9D said the Isra=
eli
defence source. =E2=80=9CSince we know from previous Iranian terror attacks
that it takes about a year to plan a substantial one, we should not be
surprised if operations against western targets are already in high
gear and Mugniyeh is certainly playing a major role.=E2=80=9D
The young Mugniyeh first attracted the attention of the West when he
was involved in the kidnapping, torture and mutilation of William
Buckley, the CIA station chief in Beirut, in 1984. He kept his victim
at the Sheikh Abdullah camp in the Lebanese Bekaa valley and was
allegedly the last person Buckley saw before he died.
=E2=80=9CImad had good reason to retaliate,=E2=80=9D said a well-informed s=
ource.
=E2=80=9CA car bomb killed his brother Jihad, who had taken Imad=E2=80=99s =
old job
as bodyguard to Hezbollah=E2=80=99s spiritual leader.=E2=80=9D Mugniyeh bla=
med the
CIA, and Buckley was chosen to pay the price.
The kidnapping led to the Iran-contra affair, one of the most
embarrassing episodes of the Reagan presidency, in which arms were
swapped for hostages. But by the time the Americans were negotiating
with the Iranians, Buckley was already dead.
Mugniyeh has also been linked to the demolition of the American embassy
and marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 and is wanted in Argentina for
his role in recruiting the bombers of the Israeli embassy and Jewish
centre in Buenos Aires in the early 1990s.
Mugniyeh left Lebanon for Iran in 1994 with his wife and son after an
assassination attempt. He is since believed to have played an active
role in fomenting trouble in Iraq. Ledeen described him last week as
the =E2=80=9Cspinal column of the terror war against America in Iraq from t=
he
beginning=E2=80=9D.
According to Robert Baer, a former CIA agent who pursued Mugniyeh in
the 1980s, =E2=80=9Che is the most dangerous terrorist we have ever faced.
Mugniyeh is probably the most intelligent, most capable operative we
have ever run across, including the KGB or anybody else.
=E2=80=9CHe enters by one door, exits by another, changes his cars daily,
never makes appointments by telephone =E2=80=94 he is never predictable. He
is the master terrorist, the grail we have been after since 1983=E2=80=9D.
Elite Iranian army officers who arrived in south Lebanon this month
have taken command of thousands of rockets aimed at cities across
Israel. They are believed to have been given control of the missiles by
Hezbollah to deter possible Israeli attacks against Iran=E2=80=99s nuclear
facilities.
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news.yahoo.com/
Nuclear Program 'Irreversible,' Iran Says
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer
Iran said Sunday its nuclear program is irreversible, issuing yet
another rejection of a U.N. Security Council deadline to cease
enriching uranium that expires in five days.
Earlier this month, Tehran announced for the first time that it had
enriched uranium using 164 centrifuges, a step toward large-scale
production of nuclear fuel that can be used either in atomic weapons or
in nuclear reactors for civilian electricity generation.
"Nuclear research will continue. Suspension of (nuclear activities
including uranium enrichment) is not on our agenda. This issue is
irreversible," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told
reporters.
The United States and some allies charge Iran is using the program as a
cover for weapons production. Iran says it is designed only for power
generation.
The Security Council deadline of Friday is not binding, but the United
States and Britain said Iran must comply or the two countries would
seek a resolution to make the demand compulsory, which would raise the
possibility of sanctions.
"Iran won't give up its rights and has prepared plans for any
eventuality," Asefi said.
The spokesman said a Russian compromise plan for joint uranium
enrichment was still on the table.
Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's envoy to the International Atomic Energy
Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, Saturday spoke of a "basic
agreement" between Iran and Russia to set up a joint uranium enrichment
firm on Russian soil.
The announcement was a repeat of a similar declaration by Iran and
Russia in February but details have never been worked out.
"Necessary grounds need to be prepared for its implementation," Asefi
said. It still remains unclear whether Iran would entirely give up
enrichment at home, a top demand of the West, or if the joint venture
would be complementary to the existing enrichment inside Iran.
Asefi insisted Sunday that Iran has not used any advanced P-2
centrifuges in its enrichment of uranium.
Such a device would be a vast improvement over the current P-1
centrifuges, which Iran has said it used to enrich uranium.
Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed last week that
his country was conducting laboratory research on the advanced P-2
centrifuge, which could be used to more speedily create fuel for power
plants or atomic weapons.
"We have not so far used P-2 centrifuges. What we have used has been
P-1," Asefi told reporters.
The spokesman, however, said Iran had the right to work on P-2
centrifuge.
"No one can deny us of such a work," he said.
Iran has vowed it would never give up its right under the Nuclear
Nonproliferation Treaty to enrich uranium and produce nuclear fuel.
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23 Apr 2006 10:32:43 PM |
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Hey MOI, C'est Moi Au Ci !!!
"Looks like Pakistan and Iran share the same Tailor." I wonder if
they can get the same 'FIT' ???
I will say one thing though Wally, you really do have to be more
wary of "The Tailor Of Panama". - great movie with Pierce
Brosnon[SP?]. - I was a re-make of "The Ugly American" (w' Marlon
Brando).
Watch the movie, you will know what I mean !!!
;-)
"MoiT ?" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1145847041.958213.21220@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Iran 'models nuclear plan on Pakistan'
By Philip Sherwell in Washington
(Filed: 23/04/2006)
www.telegraph.co.uk/
The United States arms control chief has given warning that Iran is
"very close to the point of no return" in acquiring the
technological
expertise to make a nuclear weapon.
"In terms of activities on the ground in Iran, it is fair to say
that
the Iranians have put both feet on the accelerator," said Robert
Joseph, the senior US State Department official responsible for
countering nuclear proliferation.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
His comments, which come as the United Nations Security Council
prepares to meet to discuss the crisis this week, indicate that
Washington believes that the stakes are rising rapidly in the West's
confrontation with the Islamic republic.
Earlier this month, Teheran claimed to have enriched uranium for the
nuclear fuel cycle. It has pushed ahead with its programme while
taking
advantage of a diplomatic stand-off between Moscow and Washington
over
possible UN sanctions.
Iran is following tactics outlined by its former chief nuclear
negotiator in comments to clerics and academics previously
unreported
in the West. Hassan Rowhani made clear that Iran's goal was to
present
the world with a fait accompli over its nuclear ambitions.
"If, one day, we are able to complete the fuel cycle and the world
sees
that it has no choice, that we do possess the technology, then the
situation will be different," he told the Supreme Cultural
Revolution
Council. "The world did not want Pakistan to have an atomic bomb or
Brazil to have the fuel cycle, but Pakistan built its bomb and
Brazil
has its fuel cycle."
He delivered the speech in September, a month after Iran sparked the
latest stage of its showdown with the international community by
resuming uranium conversion, in breach of previous accords,
following
the election of its hardline president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
Mr Rowhani reiterated to his audience Iran's public insistence that
it
is seeking nuclear technology only for peaceful civilian purposes.
But
his comparison to Pakistan's secret development of an atomic weapon
is
significant, as Iran acquired much of its nuclear know-how from A Q
Khan, the rogue scientist known as the father of the Pakistani bomb.
During the speech, Mr Rowhani emphasised that Iran had intended to
complete its programme in secret. "This was never supposed to be in
the
open. But in any case the spies exposed it," he said, in reference
to
the revelation by opposition exiles of Iran's clandestine nuclear
operations.
Karim Sadjadpour, an Iranian analyst with the International Crisis
Group, said Teheran was aiming to shape the debate with its claims.
"Iran is betting that it can redraw the West's red lines by creating
facts on the ground. At the time they re-commenced uranium
conversion
activities in Isfahan, last August, much fuss was made in the US and
EU, but it eventually became an irreversible fait accompli. They may
well believe that the West will eventually come to accept their
enrichment activities as well."
The Security Council meets on Friday to hear a report on Iran's
nuclear
activities from the International Atomic Energy Agency. But although
the agency's director, Mohamed ElBaradei, is certain to report that
Iran has ignored the ultimatum to halt enrichment work, US, British
and
French hopes of moving towards imposing sanctions are slim.
Russia hardened its stand against such punitive measures last week.
Its
foreign ministry said Moscow would consider sanctions only if
"concrete
facts" emerged that Iran was developing nuclear weapons. China,
which
also holds a Security Council veto, leans towards the Russian
position.
Iran made an apparent attempt yesterday to confuse the situation
ahead
of the UN meeting when it said it had reached a "basic" agreement
with
Moscow to enrich uranium in Russia. The announcement made no mention
of
whether Teheran would cease enrichment in Iran - a key UN demand.
Last week, Moscow rejected an appeal by Washington to halt the sale
of
air defence missile systems to Teheran in a $700 million (£392
million) deal. "This is not the time for business as usual with the
Iranian government," said Nicholas Burns, a senior US State
Department
official.
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www.timesonline.co.uk/
The Sunday Times April 23, 2006
Iran's president recruits terror master
Sarah Baxter, Washington and Uzi Mahnaimi, Tel Aviv
Plot for revenge attacks on West
IRAN'S president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, attended a meeting in Syria
earlier this year with one of the world's most wanted terrorists,
according to intelligence experts and a former national security
official in Washington.
US officials and Israel intelligence sources believe Imad Mugniyeh,
the
Lebanese commander of Hezbollah's overseas operations, has taken
charge of plotting Iran's retaliation against western targets should
President George W Bush order a strike on Iranian nuclear sites.
Mugniyeh is on the FBI's "Most Wanted Terrorists" list for his
role in a series of high-profile attacks against the West, including
the 1985 hijacking of a TWA jet and murder of one of its passengers,
a
US navy diver.
Now in his mid-forties, Mugniyeh is reported to have travelled with
Ahmadinejad in January this year from Tehran to Damascus, where the
Iranian president met leaders of Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas.
The meeting has been dubbed a "terror summit" because of the
presence of so many groups behind attacks on Israel, which
Ahmadinejad
has threatened to wipe from the map.
Jane's Intelligence Review cited "reports in recent weeks" of
Mugniyeh's presence alongside the president.
Michael Ledeen, a Middle East expert and former Pentagon and
National
Security Council official who wrote that Mugniyeh had "probably"
been there, said last week senior American officials had confirmed
it.
"It's hard to identify Mugniyeh because he is said to have changed
his face and his fingerprints," Ledeen said. "But senior government
officials have told me I was right. He was there."
Shortly after the Damascus summit Henry Crumpton, head of
counter-terrorism at the state department, singled out the elusive
Mugniyeh as a threat. The Iranians, Crumpton said, "have complete
command and control of Hezbollah. Imad Mugniyeh works for Tehran.
And
you can't talk about Hezbollah and not think about Iran. They really
are part and parcel of the same problem."
Mugniyeh lives in Iran and has evaded capture for more than 20
years,
despite a $5m American bounty on his head. Western intelligence
reports
claim he has many connections to terrorist cells in Europe, Africa,
Latin America and the US and he is said to have met Osama Bin Laden.
"When and if the Iranians decide to hit the West in its soft belly,
Imad will be the one to act," a western intelligence source said
last
week.
An Israeli defence source claimed Mugniyeh was in regular touch with
the new Iranian intelligence minister, Gholamhossein Mohseni Ezhei.
The
minister is a long-time confidant of Ahmadinejad and was appointed
by
him.
"We know that Mohseni Ezhei holds routine meetings with Mugniyeh,
who
is today Iran's head of overseas operations," said the Israeli
defence source. "Since we know from previous Iranian terror attacks
that it takes about a year to plan a substantial one, we should not
be
surprised if operations against western targets are already in high
gear and Mugniyeh is certainly playing a major role."
The young Mugniyeh first attracted the attention of the West when he
was involved in the kidnapping, torture and mutilation of William
Buckley, the CIA station chief in Beirut, in 1984. He kept his
victim
at the Sheikh Abdullah camp in the Lebanese Bekaa valley and was
allegedly the last person Buckley saw before he died.
"Imad had good reason to retaliate," said a well-informed source.
"A car bomb killed his brother Jihad, who had taken Imad's old job
as bodyguard to Hezbollah's spiritual leader." Mugniyeh blamed the
CIA, and Buckley was chosen to pay the price.
The kidnapping led to the Iran-contra affair, one of the most
embarrassing episodes of the Reagan presidency, in which arms were
swapped for hostages. But by the time the Americans were negotiating
with the Iranians, Buckley was already dead.
Mugniyeh has also been linked to the demolition of the American
embassy
and marine barracks in Beirut in 1983 and is wanted in Argentina for
his role in recruiting the bombers of the Israeli embassy and Jewish
centre in Buenos Aires in the early 1990s.
Mugniyeh left Lebanon for Iran in 1994 with his wife and son after
an
assassination attempt. He is since believed to have played an active
role in fomenting trouble in Iraq. Ledeen described him last week as
the "spinal column of the terror war against America in Iraq from
the
beginning".
According to Robert Baer, a former CIA agent who pursued Mugniyeh in
the 1980s, "he is the most dangerous terrorist we have ever faced.
Mugniyeh is probably the most intelligent, most capable operative we
have ever run across, including the KGB or anybody else.
"He enters by one door, exits by another, changes his cars daily,
never makes appointments by telephone - he is never predictable. He
is the master terrorist, the grail we have been after since 1983".
Elite Iranian army officers who arrived in south Lebanon this month
have taken command of thousands of rockets aimed at cities across
Israel. They are believed to have been given control of the missiles
by
Hezbollah to deter possible Israeli attacks against Iran's nuclear
facilities.
---0---
news.yahoo.com/
Nuclear Program 'Irreversible,' Iran Says
By ALI AKBAR DAREINI, Associated Press Writer
Iran said Sunday its nuclear program is irreversible, issuing yet
another rejection of a U.N. Security Council deadline to cease
enriching uranium that expires in five days.
Earlier this month, Tehran announced for the first time that it had
enriched uranium using 164 centrifuges, a step toward large-scale
production of nuclear fuel that can be used either in atomic weapons
or
in nuclear reactors for civilian electricity generation.
"Nuclear research will continue. Suspension of (nuclear activities
including uranium enrichment) is not on our agenda. This issue is
irreversible," Foreign Ministry spokesman Hamid Reza Asefi told
reporters.
The United States and some allies charge Iran is using the program
as a
cover for weapons production. Iran says it is designed only for
power
generation.
The Security Council deadline of Friday is not binding, but the
United
States and Britain said Iran must comply or the two countries would
seek a resolution to make the demand compulsory, which would raise
the
possibility of sanctions.
"Iran won't give up its rights and has prepared plans for any
eventuality," Asefi said.
The spokesman said a Russian compromise plan for joint uranium
enrichment was still on the table.
Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's envoy to the International Atomic
Energy
Agency, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, Saturday spoke of a "basic
agreement" between Iran and Russia to set up a joint uranium
enrichment
firm on Russian soil.
The announcement was a repeat of a similar declaration by Iran and
Russia in February but details have never been worked out.
"Necessary grounds need to be prepared for its implementation,"
Asefi
said. It still remains unclear whether Iran would entirely give up
enrichment at home, a top demand of the West, or if the joint
venture
would be complementary to the existing enrichment inside Iran.
Asefi insisted Sunday that Iran has not used any advanced P-2
centrifuges in its enrichment of uranium.
Such a device would be a vast improvement over the current P-1
centrifuges, which Iran has said it used to enrich uranium.
Iran's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad claimed last week
that
his country was conducting laboratory research on the advanced P-2
centrifuge, which could be used to more speedily create fuel for
power
plants or atomic weapons.
"We have not so far used P-2 centrifuges. What we have used has been
P-1," Asefi told reporters.
The spokesman, however, said Iran had the right to work on P-2
centrifuge.
"No one can deny us of such a work," he said.
Iran has vowed it would never give up its right under the Nuclear
Nonproliferation Treaty to enrich uranium and produce nuclear fuel.
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Haven't got much time for DVD's lately, Kimbo.....
Too busy scouring all the boards over this Iranian crisis....things
appear to be heating up again lately....not much time b4 Israel strikes
-- late APril/early May ?!?!?
Check these out:
http://exodus2006.com/eli/1iyyar2006.htm
http://exodus2006.com/eli/2iyyar2006.htm
Start dustin' off those ol' fallout shelterz, peoplez, coz
pretty soon the fan's gonna splatter those walls a pretty
shade of brown & the Fat Lady's gonna belch & bellow
**BIG TIME** !!!!
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?id=36829
Iran just wants to play with the big boys
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By Daniel Atherton
DAILY BRUIN COLUMNIST
datherton@media.ucla.edu
During the Cold War, the two most heavily armed militaries the world
had ever seen stared each other down, and neither fired a shot. During
the current quasi-Cold War between India and Pakistan over Kashmir, two
of the world's most bitter enemies have come to the brink of nuclear
war, and neither has pulled the trigger. So, as the U.N. Security
Council readies to discuss the Iran nuclear crisis this week, can
someone explain to me why we're all so worried about Iran getting the
bomb?
Being terrified of nuclear weapons has been ingrained in the American
consciousness since the "duck-and-cover" drills of the 1950s. It was
surely an unsettling thing to know that the Soviets could strike at any
time and that there was no way for the U.S. to defend itself; our only
recourse was to declare that if they destroyed us, we'd destroy them.
A nuclear crisis or two later, most Americans seem terrified of nuclear
weapons, even our own. The theft and usage of a nuclear weapon by
terrorists against Americans was even a major plot element of the last
season of "24," as ridiculous and implausible as that scenario may be.
We are right to be terrified of the potential power of nuclear weapons;
they are the most destructive force the world has ever seen. But we
remain the only nation to have ever used one in combat. The deterrent
force of other nations having nuclear weapons that they could fire at
you if you ever used one against them has been enough to keep nine
nations, several of whom hate each other, from pulling the nuclear
trigger in over 60 years.
According to a transcript on UC Berkeley's Institute of International
Studies Web site, Kenneth Waltz, a political scientist, in the Berkeley
series "Conversations with History," put it this way: "No matter how
often the Bush administration people say 'containment and deterrence do
not work,' it works as well as it ever did (in the Cold War). ... One
of the striking things about nuclear deterrence is that it has worked,
no matter what country we're talking about, no matter what kind of
government the country has, no matter what kind of ruler the country
has had."
Waltz's argument is essentially this: People in power want to stay in
power. Any nation that uses a nuclear weapon on another nation is
guaranteeing, if not its total destruction, a removal of its government
from power by the U.S. and other nuclear nations. So why would a nation
with a nuclear weapon ever use it? A country's most likely reason for
wanting to have the bomb in the first place, then, is not to make war,
but to get other countries to take it seriously.
And thus we come to Iran. Iran's announcement recently that it has
successfully enriched uranium is a step toward having the capacity to
develop its own nuclear bomb. Experts say that Iran is still years away
from being able to enrich uranium to the point necessary to make it
"weaponizable."
RUBY RUDNICK/daily bruin staff
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The Security Council has called for Iran to stop enrichment and is
considering sanctions if Iran continues to ignore its requests.
Although Iran said that its only objective is to have nuclear energy,
not nuclear weapons, it remains a good idea to act on the assumption,
as most countries are, that Iran would like to have the bomb.
But let's think this through. Waltz said, "If a country ... badly wants
nuclear weapons, it is almost impossible in the long run to prevent
that country from acquiring nuclear military capability." Threatening
Iran is only going to make it want a nuclear bomb more.
The most obvious threatened party would be Israel. But Israel is
believed by everyone to have its own nuclear weapons, even though it
has never made a stockpile public.
The mullahs may want to wipe Israel off the map, but it's a big stretch
to simply assume that they would be willing to sacrifice their entire
country for that goal in what would likely be a massive return strike
from Israel's secret stash of nuclear weapons.
Iraq is most likely Iran's other potential target in the Middle East,
since those two countries have been fighting for many years, but Iraq
is now protected by the United States.
It makes no sense for Iran to take any nuclear action against either
country, because to do so would assure its own complete destruction. No
government has ever been willing to take that step, so why are we so
quick to assume that Iran will be?
Iran wants the status and the security associated with being a nuclear
power. It has already rebuffed the United Nation's demands for it to
stop enriching uranium, and the situation is accelerating toward Gulf
War III (the prewar intelligence will certainly be easier; no need to
convince everyone of Iran's nuclear status with unconvincing-looking
documents from Niger and satellite photos of barns like the last time
we went to war over this).
Is it worth storming into another quagmire when the thing we're trying
to prevent might not be a measurable threat in the first place?
Or might it perhaps be a better idea to take a more cautious approach,
offering incentives for Iran to stop its activity instead of basically
calling its nuclear bluff?
There's an argument to be made that the world would be safer if,
indeed, every nation had a nuclear bomb. You might not agree with that,
but it's worth wondering if, perhaps, we might not be just as safe if
there were, at least, one more in the club.
The question should be: Would you personally be willing to go to war in
Iran in order to prevent its acquisition of a nuclear weapon?
The answer should be: no.
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Trust Me.
I don't promote videos lightly.
Both of these movies put a TRUE light on the American CIA & British
MI6 "SPIN MACHINEs" that seem to be 'Drawing' you IN (of late) !!!
Just A Thought.
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"MoiT ?" <stargatedecember2012@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Iran just wants to play with the big boys
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By Daniel Atherton
DAILY BRUIN COLUMNIST
datherton@media.ucla.edu
During the Cold War, the two most heavily armed militaries the
world
had ever seen stared each other down, and neither fired a shot.
During
the current quasi-Cold War between India and Pakistan over
Kashmir, two
of the world's most bitter enemies have come to the brink of
nuclear
war, and neither has pulled the trigger. So, as the U.N. Security
Council readies to discuss the Iran nuclear crisis this week, can
someone explain to me why we're all so worried about Iran getting
the
bomb?
Being terrified of nuclear weapons has been ingrained in the
American
consciousness since the "duck-and-cover" drills of the 1950s. It
was
surely an unsettling thing to know that the Soviets could strike
at any
time and that there was no way for the U.S. to defend itself; our
only
recourse was to declare that if they destroyed us, we'd destroy
them.
A nuclear crisis or two later, most Americans seem terrified of
nuclear
weapons, even our own. The theft and usage of a nuclear weapon by
terrorists against Americans was even a major plot element of the
last
season of "24," as ridiculous and implausible as that scenario may
be.
We are right to be terrified of the potential power of nuclear
weapons;
they are the most destructive force the world has ever seen. But
we
remain the only nation to have ever used one in combat. The
deterrent
force of other nations having nuclear weapons that they could fire
at
you if you ever used one against them has been enough to keep nine
nations, several of whom hate each other, from pulling the nuclear
trigger in over 60 years.
According to a transcript on UC Berkeley's Institute of
International
Studies Web site, Kenneth Waltz, a political scientist, in the
Berkeley
series "Conversations with History," put it this way: "No matter
how
often the Bush administration people say 'containment and
deterrence do
not work,' it works as well as it ever did (in the Cold War). ...
One
of the striking things about nuclear deterrence is that it has
worked,
no matter what country we're talking about, no matter what kind of
government the country has, no matter what kind of ruler the
country
has had."
Waltz's argument is essentially this: People in power want to stay
in
power. Any nation that uses a nuclear weapon on another nation is
guaranteeing, if not its total destruction, a removal of its
government
from power by the U.S. and other nuclear nations. So why would a
nation
with a nuclear weapon ever use it? A country's most likely reason
for
wanting to have the bomb in the first place, then, is not to make
war,
but to get other countries to take it seriously.
And thus we come to Iran. Iran's announcement recently that it has
successfully enriched uranium is a step toward having the capacity
to
develop its own nuclear bomb. Experts say that Iran is still years
away
from being able to enrich uranium to the point necessary to make
it
"weaponizable."
RUBY RUDNICK/daily bruin staff
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The Security Council has called for Iran to stop enrichment and is
considering sanctions if Iran continues to ignore its requests.
Although Iran said that its only objective is to have nuclear
energy,
not nuclear weapons, it remains a good idea to act on the
assumption,
as most countries are, that Iran would like to have the bomb.
But let's think this through. Waltz said, "If a country ... badly
wants
nuclear weapons, it is almost impossible in the long run to
prevent
that country from acquiring nuclear military capability."
Threatening
Iran is only going to make it want a nuclear bomb more.
The most obvious threatened party would be Israel. But Israel is
believed by everyone to have its own nuclear weapons, even though
it
has never made a stockpile public.
The mullahs may want to wipe Israel off the map, but it's a big
stretch
to simply assume that they would be willing to sacrifice their
entire
country for that goal in what would likely be a massive return
strike
from Israel's secret stash of nuclear weapons.
Iraq is most likely Iran's other potential target in the Middle
East,
since those two countries have been fighting for many years, but
Iraq
is now protected by the United States.
It makes no sense for Iran to take any nuclear action against
either
country, because to do so would assure its own complete
destruction. No
government has ever been willing to take that step, so why are we
so
quick to assume that Iran will be?
Iran wants the status and the security associated with being a
nuclear
power. It has already rebuffed the United Nation's demands for it
to
stop enriching uranium, and the situation is accelerating toward
Gulf
War III (the prewar intelligence will certainly be easier; no need
to
convince everyone of Iran's nuclear status with
unconvincing-looking
documents from Niger and satellite photos of barns like the last
time
we went to war over this).
Is it worth storming into another quagmire when the thing we're
trying
to prevent might not be a measurable threat in the first place?
Or might it perhaps be a better idea to take a more cautious
approach,
offering incentives for Iran to stop its activity instead of
basically
calling its nuclear bluff?
There's an argument to be made that the world would be safer if,
indeed, every nation had a nuclear bomb. You might not agree with
that,
but it's worth wondering if, perhaps, we might not be just as safe
if
there were, at least, one more in the club.
The question should be: Would you personally be willing to go to
war in
Iran in order to prevent its acquisition of a nuclear weapon?
The answer should be: no.
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25 Apr 2006 10:51:49 PM |
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Moi looks at all possibilities, Kimbo !!!
Even the remotest ones !!!
One thing for sure, this Iran thingie ain't gonna
just "go away" or dissapear....
It'z all gonna come to a head sooner rather than later.....
All the eschatological prophecies point to the next five years
(2006-2011) for the commencement of WW3.....
Given all the kerfuffle, hubbub, brouhaha & hullaballoo of late
moi would say sooner rather than later !!!
2007 at the very latest.......
HOOROO
UNCLE WALLY
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26 Apr 2006 12:21:50 AM |
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The "LATEST" SPIN on a CBC NewsWorld show (that will remain
nameless) interviewed someone who considers himself an authority on
Israeli Military Tactics said:
"Israeli Militia missed their chance on disrupting the Iranian
nuclear threat; because Israel didn't act sooner, and doesn't have
the 'capabilities' of taking out one of their underground enrichment
sites."
This is total BS.
Take out one (or more) of their 'above' ground production
facilities - and who cares about their 'below' ground enrichment
plants.
You can't enrich uranium that you don't have.
Just Another Example Of The Spin Doctoring !!!
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