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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"
Date: 17 Feb 2004 09:39:18 AM
Object: Would You Vote For Me For President If...
If I were president, I would:
Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.
I would have a "Young Women and Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing, counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and treatment.
I would have free condom dispensing machines placed next to the
newspaper vending machine at every McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King and 7-11 stores across the US.
I would give a $10 gift certificate for every teen who came on time for
her monthly birth control shot which would be redeemable at various
local retail clothing stores.
This program would dramatically reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding and
clothing the unwanted children born each year in the US. These children
are destined to a life of poverty and crime in an endless cycle and
usually end up in jail which is also paid for with taxes.
This program will give young teens a better shot at their own life if
they can finish growing up before they are forced to raise a child.
Well, that's all the bright ideas I can think of for the moment. I might
add more later.
:)
sUSAn
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User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 01:01:28 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>...

If I were president, I would:

Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

How about promoting abstinence and marriage until you have a financial
job to support a kid?


I would have a "Young Women and Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing, counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and treatment.

Costs plenty of money.


I would have free condom dispensing machines placed next to the
newspaper vending machine at every McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King and 7-11 stores across the US.

You are forgetting the cost of a guard to stand and protect thievery
of the condoms.


I would give a $10 gift certificate for every teen who came on time for
her monthly birth control shot which would be redeemable at various
local retail clothing stores.

That would be into the $billions of dollars annually. Plus, the
embarrassment factor of exchanging the gift certificate at the local
retail clothing store, in which you (Public taxes) would have to pay
them for their exchange service.

This program would dramatically reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding and
clothing the unwanted children born each year in the US.

Nope:
Cutting off welfare would do that then, plus you ( the pres.) would be
vied with cruel and unusual punishment laws.
1. Many in our culture will bring as many babies into as the welfare
state that the state will provide them financially for.

These children
are destined to a life of poverty and crime in an endless cycle and
usually end up in jail which is also paid for with taxes.

Blain the politicians and Hollywood who want China ( And other
countries) to make our clothes and shoes and other stuff putting the
American out of work. In addition, Hollywood promotes the 'neighbor
has to have more toy's than the next neighbor to be a anybody.'


This program will give young teens a better shot at their own life if
they can finish growing up before they are forced to raise a child.

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can think of for the moment. I might
add more later.

China has solved this particular problem.
One country owns 1/5 of the entire world's population = China. The way
they deal with poverty is making the young children work in slave
factories.
If one want to be pres. Here are some other factors one has to deal
with after they become the president.
The president factor:
Being a pres. It's hard because sometimes you get hit with decisions
like. For example: What if Il or Hu blackmails the U.S. and demands
10 billion dollars or, Hu he will began to launch nuclear missiles at
Taiwan. Or Il says give 'me money or I launch nukes against S. Korea?'
Now what do you do?

:)

sUSAn

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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 04:41:03 PM

Mikey-Micky-D wrote:
How about promoting abstinence and
marriage until you have a financial job
to support a kid?

You can promote it until purple pigs fly. It simply has not worked in
the past and will not work now. The threat of getting AIDS and dying
hasn't worked either.
Sex is natural and you aren't going to stop teens from having it unless
you can stop puberty. This was meant to happen to us at this age. That
is why our bodies go thru changes and we have instinctive desires. It's
a hormonal thing.

I would have a "Young Women and
Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and
other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing,
counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and
treatment.

Costs plenty of money.

Not a drop in the bucket compared to what it cost to raise a teen mother
with a child who will never be a productive member of society and only
draining it.

I would have free condom dispensing
machines placed next to the newspaper
vending machine at every McDonalds,
KFC, Taco Bell, Burger King and 7-11
stores across the US.

You are forgetting the cost of a guard to
stand and protect thievery of the
condoms.

Why would you steal FREE CONDOMS Michael?

I would give a $10 gift certificate for
every teen who came on time for her
monthly birth control shot which would
be redeemable at various local retail
clothing stores.

That would be into the $billions of dollars
annually. Plus, the embarrassment
factor of exchanging the gift certificate
at the local retail clothing store, in which
you (Public taxes) would have to pay
them for their exchange service.

I doubt it. I would count on corporate support from within the
community. A tax deduction for them and remember, the businesses will
prosper in the long run if a teenager grows up and enters the work force
rather than having a baby and living on welfare because that is more
money that will be spent within the community as opposed to draining
from the community.

This program would dramatically
reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding
and clothing the unwanted children born
each year in the US.

Nope:
Cutting off welfare would do that then,

But the cycle continues.....
There is a greater chance of becoming a teen mother if their own mother
gave birth as a teen.

plus you ( the pres.) would be vied with
cruel and unusual punishment laws.

huh? eh?

1. Many in our culture will bring as many
babies into as the welfare state that the
state will provide them financially for.

I don't believe that. I think that if they are offered better choices
with incentives and you make birth control easy and at their doorsteps,
then they will opt for it. Of course there will always be some who
won't.

These children
are destined to a life of poverty and
crime in an endless cycle and usually
end up in jail which is also paid for
with taxes.

Blain the politicians and Hollywood who
want China ( And other countries) to
make our clothes and shoes and other
stuff putting the American out of work.

Placing blame doesn't fix the problem.

In addition, Hollywood promotes the
'neighbor has to have more toy's than
the next neighbor to be a anybody.'

Keeping up with the Jones' ??
How about if we just find gainful employment for the Jones' first and
keep them child free and in school.
You know? Keep them from "Jones'n" the rest of their lives.
So! Are you going to vote for me? :)
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User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 09:12:58 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<3908-4032987F-545@storefull-3214.bay.webtv.net>...

Mikey-Micky-D wrote:



How about promoting abstinence and
marriage until you have a financial job
to support a kid?


You can promote it until purple pigs fly. It simply has not worked in
the past and will not work now. The threat of getting AIDS and dying
hasn't worked either.

I do not think there is an 'epidemic.' Do you have any news that says
'epidemic?'


Sex is natural and you aren't going to stop teens from having it unless
you can stop puberty.

true, but a safeguard was Christian principles of abstinence and ,
yes, it worked fine for many centuries. As the world becomes more
secular, you will get sex cults that only increase sex and the
eventual downfall of that group. See Roman history, Greek, Egyptian,
Sumerian etc...

This was meant to happen to us at this age. That
is why our bodies go thru changes and we have instinctive desires. It's
a hormonal thing.

I would have a "Young Women and
Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and
other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing,
counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and
treatment.


Costs plenty of money.


Not a drop in the bucket compared to what it cost to raise a teen mother
with a child who will never be a productive member of society and only
draining it.

I would have free condom dispensing
machines placed next to the newspaper
vending machine at every McDonalds,
KFC, Taco Bell, Burger King and 7-11
stores across the US.


You are forgetting the cost of a guard to
stand and protect thievery of the
condoms.


Why would you steal FREE CONDOMS Michael?

I would give a $10 gift certificate for
every teen who came on time for her
monthly birth control shot which would
be redeemable at various local retail
clothing stores.



That would be into the $billions of dollars
annually. Plus, the embarrassment
factor of exchanging the gift certificate
at the local retail clothing store, in which
you (Public taxes) would have to pay
them for their exchange service.


I doubt it. I would count on corporate support from within the
community.

What community? In California, there is a term going around called
balkanization. That is where one group does not get along with the
next one. That is the antitheses of community. So where is the
support?

A tax deduction for them and remember, the businesses will
prosper in the long run if a teenager grows up and enters the work force
rather than having a baby and living on welfare because that is more
money that will be spent within the community as opposed to draining
from the community.


This program would dramatically
reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding
and clothing the unwanted children born
each year in the US.


Nope:


Cutting off welfare would do that then,


But the cycle continues.....

There is a greater chance of becoming a teen mother if their own mother
gave birth as a teen.

So what you are saying is that my idea (Others first) to promote
abstinence is bad because once we get these mobile abortion machines
on the road it is OK for a free-for-all because we give a choice for
the abortion? Or our you say that the women (girls) have to have
abortions by your new law?
There is one guy on Art Bell the other night who said that we should
go ahead and sterilize the entire world and only breed the High-IQs,
is that a god idea?



plus you ( the pres.) would be vied with
cruel and unusual punishment laws.


huh? eh?


1. Many in our culture will bring as many
babies into as the welfare state that the
state will provide them financially for.


I don't believe that.

I see it, listen to talk ( by first source) about it first hand.

I think that if they are offered better choices

A free check-up and abortion? No they want babies because the more
they have the higher the monthly welfare check is.
This welfare check is significantly more money than they ever saw in
their homeland.

with incentives and you make birth control easy and at their doorsteps,
then they will opt for it.

From Hebrew, Egyptian, and Assyrian the prime importance of their
cultures were to populate the world with their own race because they
believed in the numbers game. This is happening in third world
countries, today, because this strategy has worked in history. Making
more babies is their goal and directive.
When God told Abraham to populate the earth with his seed, he was not
playing a cruel joke; this was called the numbers game. The more of
you there are and the lesser of them there are is the entire game.
This mentality still exists within the United States of America today
among certain cultural groups. .
So I do not believe we have an epidemic of teen pregnancy.

Of course there will always be some who
won't.

These children
are destined to a life of poverty and
crime in an endless cycle and usually
end up in jail which is also paid for
with taxes.


Blain the politicians and Hollywood who
want China ( And other countries) to
make our clothes and shoes and other
stuff putting the American out of work.


Placing blame doesn't fix the problem.

In fact, you are blaming that the teenagers are too stupid to know the
pitfalls that befall them when they decide to have kids at a early
age. Thus you placed a fixit plan before them and us. I believe we do
not have a problem with too many children. In fact, we need more
American cultured children to be born. We surely do not need more
people emigrating with their preferred cultures now.


In addition, Hollywood promotes the
'neighbor has to have more toy's than
the next neighbor to be a anybody.'


Keeping up with the Jones' ??

I do not watch too much TV , so sorry, I do not know who or what the
Jones' are?

How about if we just find gainful employment for the Jones'

I just mentioned that in the blame political leaders, China and
Hollywood that you poo-pooed. To get jobs back into America we
(general usage) need to get off the TV couch and enter out community
and began there. If you watch the Neilson ratings you will find out
that most of America is brain dead in front of the tele. That is not
going to fix any of your problems you have stated here.
To get back jobs you have to balance the trade between countries and
our own domestic industries need to churn out jobs.

first and
keep them child free and in school.

Christians did that... so what is wrong with something that was
already fixed?

You know? Keep them from "Jones'n" the rest of their lives.

History has showed us that the more magic spells and cults of sex one
civilization has ( that is to say no practice or laws of abstinence
and the sex is natural concept) the more babies are churned out. [See
Egypt, Sumer who practiced this to the extreme].

So! Are you going to vote for me? :)

Only if you are on the ballot...;)
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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 18 Feb 2004 06:27:10 AM

Michael misquoted:
I do not think there is an 'epidemic.' Do
you have any news that says
'epidemic?'

No, only Leigh's question asking "Why is it an epidemic lately."
Nobody said there was - But It IS a problem Michael.
You can promote abstinence but you can not force people to have your
standards or morals.
You do see the results of how these children are turning out, don't you?
For a lot of them, by the time they hit 1st grade it is too late for
them.
Absent father, mother in jail or on drugs, no good role model or mentors
around for guidance. They have no self-respect or for those around them.
It's all around us if not on top of us and in the news everyday.
sUSAn
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User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 01:09:32 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>...

If I were president, I would:

Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

sUSAn see Tony's article post about your topic.
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=alt.prophecies.nostradamus&selm=20040217082246.21982.00001603%40mb-m22.aol.com
.

User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 01:09:32 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>...

If I were president, I would:

Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

sUSAn see Tony's article post about your topic.
http://groups.google.com/groups?dq=&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=alt.prophecies.nostradamus&selm=20040217082246.21982.00001603%40mb-m22.aol.com
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User: "Leigh_Bee"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 04:17:45 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>...

If I were president, I would:

Typical just attack the problem!


Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

Perhaps sterilise the women whilst you are about it, but better yet,
make Daddy pay, [that is the father of the child]


I would have a "Young Women and Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing, counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and treatment.

How about a program for the parents of these fallen angels?

I would have free condom dispensing machines placed next to the
newspaper vending machine at every McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King and 7-11 stores across the US.

So these places are sex distributors?

I would give a $10 gift certificate for every teen who came on time for
her monthly birth control shot which would be redeemable at various
local retail clothing stores.

No no just teach the little dears that about 7 days of every month,
they are fertile, and perhaps that prophylactic or lemon juice would
be advisable

This program would dramatically reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding and
clothing the unwanted children born each year in the US. These children
are destined to a life of poverty and crime in an endless cycle and
usually end up in jail which is also paid for with taxes.

Don't they do adoptions, over there? maybe Bush was one of these
except he was a changeling

This program will give young teens a better shot at their own life if
they can finish growing up before they are forced to raise a child.

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can think of for the moment. I might
add more later.

:)

sUSAn

Well you would need a bigger agenda, than the fallen youth, why is it
an epidemic lately?
LB
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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 18 Feb 2004 06:38:23 AM

Leigh wrote:
Perhaps sterilise the women whilst you
are about it, but better yet, make Daddy
pay, [that is the father of the child]

What DADDY? There is NO daddy. Only sperm donors.

How about a program for the parents of
these fallen angels?

They already have them. Many must take parenting classes and they get
vocational training and counciling.

So these places are sex distributors?

No, but they are on every corner in every neighborhood. (Convenience)

No no just teach the little dears that
about 7 days of every month, they are
fertile, and perhaps that prophylactic or
lemon juice would be advisable

Would you like to take on that task? Sounds so easy.
You can teach them that like you can tell a baby..."HOT - don't
touch...that will burn baby!"
sUSAn
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User: "Hyena"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 12:47:31 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>...

If I were president, I would:
sUSAn

Yes, yes and yes.
Wouldn't it be a nice change to see a Government programme...in
whatever Country...that was designed to help the people.
The cost of this is trivial compared to the Iraq.....conquest.
Mind, there are those in here that will throw their dolls out of the
pram when they see such a sensible remark. Those are the ones who have
no concern for the plight of child mothers....just an obsession with
antiquated morality.
Hyena
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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 03:45:56 PM

Hyena wrote:
Yes, yes and yes.

Well thanks, thanks and thanks!
Okay, that makes 3 votes.
(using the Bush counting system)
:)
I'm on my wayyyyyyyyyyy!
sUSAn
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User: "Michael Cornelissen"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 19 Feb 2004 01:51:26 PM
I wouldn't, it moves the problem of economics to economics.
STOP TALKING ABOUT MONEY
So, that's out.
I'd vote to someone who says that wishes of the people are in charge instead
of the big companies. The government distributes the money to the companies
according to popular vote. The companies pay the workers. of course a
company can distribute the money to their own free will but they'll have to
keep the popular vote. So let's be nice to each other for a change. Take the
problem at the root. If it doesn't happen in a few years, it's likely to get
a population to realize that they are being sold out. A government can keep
people only for so long into hibernation. People are waking up again after
the last recession.
But you're most likely not going to show on the list I'm allowed to vote on.
/Michael Cornelissen (Dutch)
"sUSAn B Anthony" <tugbertswife@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net...

If I were president, I would:

Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

I would have a "Young Women and Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing, counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and treatment.

I would have free condom dispensing machines placed next to the
newspaper vending machine at every McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King and 7-11 stores across the US.

I would give a $10 gift certificate for every teen who came on time for
her monthly birth control shot which would be redeemable at various
local retail clothing stores.

This program would dramatically reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding and
clothing the unwanted children born each year in the US. These children
are destined to a life of poverty and crime in an endless cycle and
usually end up in jail which is also paid for with taxes.

This program will give young teens a better shot at their own life if
they can finish growing up before they are forced to raise a child.

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can think of for the moment. I might
add more later.

:)

sUSAn

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User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 05:15:34 PM
In article <7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>,
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

If I were president, I would:

I don't think a platform matters to anyone at this point - if your last name
isn't "Bush", you currently have 48% of the vote. If Duhbya screws up even
more, expect that number to go up.
Woods
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User: "Hyena"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 18 Feb 2004 03:17:03 AM
In article <7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>,
tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

If I were president, I would:............

Are you (and Woods) the only sane Americans Sue? Are you the only ones
that can speak with practical common sense and maturity?
No, maybe not. There's always the silent majority isn't there. Only
fringe, bible thumping obsessives give malevolent vent to their
principles. The vast majority ignore those ranting 'soap-box' people.
So, given the huge silent majority, I predict your success as being
overwhealming. Congratulations Madam President.
Hyena
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User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 18 Feb 2004 05:54:47 AM
(AuntieHyena) deferred, ingratiatingly:

In article <7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>,
tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

If I were president, I would:............


No, maybe not. There's always the silent majority isn't there. Only
fringe, bible thumping obsessives give malevolent vent to their
principles. The vast majority ignore those ranting 'soap-box' people.

So, given the huge silent majority, I predict your success as being
overwhealming. Congratulations Madam President.

Hyena

Gee thanx Auntie
Double-Shhhh
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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 18 Feb 2004 06:06:29 AM

Hyena wrote:
Are you (and Woods) the only sane
Americans Sue? Are you the only ones
that can speak with practical common
sense and maturity?

Who me?
Sane and mature?
(Uh-oh!)
Woods wins!
:)
sUSAn

Hyena

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User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 18 Feb 2004 11:07:38 AM
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:39:18 -0500 (EST),

(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

If I were president, I would:
Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

Could back-fire on you. Unfortunately some teens and young women
view abortion as a form of birth control.. if they don't have to worry
about paying the cost to have the procedure done (about $250.00 to
$450.00 in some places) - they may be *more* irresponsible with sex.
"Hey, sure, don't use a condom - I can get an abortion for free."
No condom = more chance of sexually transmitted diseases.
Gotta disagree with this one.

I would have a "Young Women and Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing, counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and treatment.

Good idea but you would have to find the funding for such a thing
(lotsa $$$ involved in that..)

I would have free condom dispensing machines placed next to the
newspaper vending machine at every McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King and 7-11 stores across the US.

Can't disagree here.. the more condoms the merrier.. it's also a great
reminder. Maybe you should also put them outside bars, clubs and
movie theaters.

I would give a $10 gift certificate for every teen who came on time for
her monthly birth control shot which would be redeemable at various
local retail clothing stores.

Gotta raise that $10 a bit.. there's really nothing we can buy that
we like for $10.00 at clothing stores these days. It's not much of an
incentive for the "trendy" teens and young women.

This program would dramatically reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding and
clothing the unwanted children born each year in the US. These children
are destined to a life of poverty and crime in an endless cycle and
usually end up in jail which is also paid for with taxes.

....Or the kids born could strive that much harder to break the cycle
of poverty and crime in which they were raised. Stating it as a
matter of fact that these kids will usually end up in jail is too
broad of a generalization. A lot of kids see their parents' mistakes
growing up and want to be the complete *opposite* of what they were
exposed to. And these kids have the advantage of having "lived and
learned" the hard way.. which in turn will make them work harder
towards their goals; and grow to help others in situations that they
themselves were once in. Knowledge is power. And what doesn't kill
ya makes ya stronger.
Just my little shine of optimism on the subject.
Did you hear about the little girl who was raised by a heroin junkie
mother then went on to be a Harvard Graduate?

This program will give young teens a better shot at their own life if
they can finish growing up before they are forced to raise a child.

Agreed. But be prepared for rebellion. Teens love to test the waters
and defy authority.

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can think of for the moment. I might
add more later.

Not bad. Just throwin' back a few rebuttals you might get if you were
to run for office .. ;)
Dani

:)

sUSAn

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User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... (nevermind) 20 Feb 2004 04:36:18 PM
I started this last night and wasn't able to get back with it until now.

Dani wrote:
"Hey, sure, don't use a condom - I can
get an abortion for free."

You wouldn't get but *one* free. If you screw up again........we send
your slutty- ***** of to military school for sluts! (just kidding...sort
of)

No condom = more chance of sexually
transmitted diseases.

How much more of a chance can it be? We are already #1 - right?
This program will decrease STD's and pregnancy rates dramatically, I
believe.
Free tickets to LA Laker's games for the males who use a condom each and
every time they have sex. Huh? ;)
Kind of like rewarding the little tikes with a cookie for peeing in the
potty!

Gotta disagree with this one.

WWDD?

I would have a "Young Women and
Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and
other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing,
counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and
treatment.

Good idea but you would have to find the
funding for such a thing (lotsa $$$
involved in that..)

Not a problem! NO NEW TAXES!!
Trust me on this! ;)

Can't disagree here.. the more condoms
the merrier.. it's also a great reminder.
Maybe you should also put them outside
bars, clubs and movie theaters.

As a prize in the bottom of crackerjacks!
;)

I would give a $10 gift certificate for
every teen who came on time for her
monthly birth control shot which would
be redeemable at various local retail
clothing stores.

Gotta raise that $10 a bit.. there's really
nothing we can buy that we like for
$10.00 at clothing stores these days. It's
not much of an incentive for the "trendy"
teens and young women.

$20 up north = $10 down south.
"The Body Shop" has a whole rack of shirts and pants under $10.
My husband went to "Old Navy" last week and bought a nice pair of cargo
pants and a jacket for $18 while I was over at Spencer's cleaning up on
sales.
I bought 3 "Bleeding Edge Goth Dolls" for $24.99. Normally, you pay that
much for 1!
http://www.blacktoybox.com/dollsgoth.html
Oh....I do tend to go off topic!
Anyway, we would adjust the value of the certificate according to the
cost of living.

This program would dramatically
reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding
and clothing the unwanted children
born each year in the US. These
children are destined to a life of
poverty and crime in an endless cycle
and usually end up in jail which is also
paid for with taxes.

...Or the kids born could strive that much
harder to break the cycle of poverty and
crime in which they were raised. Stating
it as a matter of fact that these kids will
usually end up in jail is too broad of a
generalization. A lot of kids see their
parents' mistakes growing up and want
to be the complete *opposite* of what
they were exposed to. And these kids
have the advantage of having "lived and
learned" the hard way.. which in turn
will make them work harder towards
their goals; and grow to help others in
situations that they themselves were
once in. Knowledge is power. And what
doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.

If only that were the reality. If that were true for the majority then
the cycles would be broken already. They need an awful lot of help and
some pushing because everybody isn't as strong or determined as say "You
and I" are.

Just my little shine of optimism on the
subject.
Did you hear about the little girl who was
raised by a heroin junkie mother then
went on to be a Harvard Graduate?

And that is a success story that is rare but not unheard of. I know
somebody who adopted 4 bi-racial children (now age 15 to 19) who's
mother was on crack all through out her pregnancies and their story is
not turning out so well. Even though they were placed with loving
parents who raised them, they have all been arrested at least once, one
has been placed in a juvenile psych-center and the oldest is serving
time and has had a baby which has been placed with adoptive parents.
They are all on medication and I guess you would say 2 of them are
mildly retarded.

This program will give young teens a
better shot at their own life if they can
finish growing up before they are
forced to raise a child.

Agreed. But be prepared for rebellion.
Teens love to test the waters and defy
authority.

Yes we do! They, I meant they! ;)

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can
think of for the moment. I might add
more later.

Not bad. Just throwin' back a few
rebuttals you might get if you were to run
for office .. ;)

I can *just* imagine what I would get. And so I withdraw from the
imaginary race.
Besides, I quite *love* my current position and I'm already living in a
white house! ;)
sUSAn

Dani

.
User: "Dani"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... (nevermind) 21 Feb 2004 12:37:59 PM
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:36:18 -0500 (EST),

(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

I started this last night and wasn't able to get back with it until now.

Dani wrote:
"Hey, sure, don't use a condom - I can
get an abortion for free."

You wouldn't get but *one* free. If you screw up again........we send
your slutty- ***** of to military school for sluts! (just kidding...sort
of)

You didn't mention it was a one shot deal ("one free pass") so to
speak. So one free abortion - then if they get pg again they gotta
pay the $$$ dough?
I don't know, Susan.. although I believe in a woman's right to choice,
I'm no fan of abortion. Abortion right now is too "popular" in our
society as it stands. Having a proposition of having them done at no
cost (even once) sets even that much more of a precedent that it's a
form of birth-control.
So many teens and women use it as a form of birth control now.. and,
by then, the damage is done; there's already a forming little human in
there (albeit a zygote/embryo) ..still, all the DNA is in place.. sex,
hair and eye color etc.. - some even speculate future personality is
already determined at the moment of conception.
I'm not trying to preach. I personally would never have an abortion.
But I know I can't decide for everyone else. That's why I say keep
the laws as they stand now. I wouldn't vote for free abortions (even
one free abortion.) Condoms are free.

No condom = more chance of sexually
transmitted diseases.

How much more of a chance can it be? We are already #1 - right?

If the woman/girl doesn't have to worry about finding the money to
get the abortion done - she may be more inclined to not insist that
the guy use a condom. A lot of them have the mentality of: "it won't
happen to me!" (sexually transmitted diseases) - so without the worry
of having to find the $$$ for the abortion, getting caught up in the
heat of the moment.. having the unprotected sex.. boom.. STD's.

This program will decrease STD's and pregnancy rates dramatically, I
believe.
Free tickets to LA Laker's games for the males who use a condom each and
every time they have sex. Huh? ;)

Yes, but what will they provide for proof? Hehe.. (think about it..
eeeeeewwwwwww!)
Have you ever heard the line from a guy: "Oh but honey it feeeeels so
much better without the condom." - ah yes, but it feels * a lot*
better to live STD free; and without child until one is ready.

Kind of like rewarding the little tikes with a cookie for peeing in the
potty!

Gotta disagree with this one.

WWDD?

What would Dani do? I don't know.. I don't think there are any magic
answers.. I wish there were. Dani would probably focus more on
education, education and more education. I'd also encourage parents
to start talking to their kids early on - more sex ed in schools (both
public and private..) More emphasis on how a life can be virtually
destroyed by AIDS; not only the inevitable death - but the pain and
sickness that one endures living with the disease.
Maybe more *pictures* should be shown in sex-ed classes and women's
clinics of what a victim with full blown AIDS looks like.. so many
of these girls/women pride themselves on their looks; so, show 'em
what Kaposi's Sarcoma looks like (purple lesions on the skin.)
And for High-School students, maybe that "take home baby" - they had
a program once where the student would have to care for this doll as
if it was a real baby to show them what life would be like with a
child at their young age. I like that idea.

I would have a "Young Women and
Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and
other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing,
counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and
treatment.

Good idea but you would have to find the
funding for such a thing (lotsa $$$
involved in that..)


Not a problem! NO NEW TAXES!!
Trust me on this! ;)

Can't disagree here.. the more condoms
the merrier.. it's also a great reminder.
Maybe you should also put them outside
bars, clubs and movie theaters.

As a prize in the bottom of crackerjacks!
;)

Yup! Maybe in the cereal boxes too.. ;)

I would give a $10 gift certificate for
every teen who came on time for her
monthly birth control shot which would
be redeemable at various local retail
clothing stores.

Gotta raise that $10 a bit.. there's really
nothing we can buy that we like for
$10.00 at clothing stores these days. It's
not much of an incentive for the "trendy"
teens and young women.

$20 up north = $10 down south.

I could get a cool shirt for $20.00 here (in the Spring/Summertime..
sweaters are a bit more expensive.)

"The Body Shop" has a whole rack of shirts and pants under $10.

Name Brand?.. (Gawd I'm bad.. a fashion enthusiast..)

My husband went to "Old Navy" last week and bought a nice pair of cargo
pants and a jacket for $18 while I was over at Spencer's cleaning up on
sales.

Wow, 18 bucks for pants *and* a jacket? It would cost me upwards
$170.00 to buy a pair of pants and a jacket that I like (and that's on
the cheap side..) I know I'm bad; but I'm not neglecting anything
else by spending the money I do on clothes and shoes.. I'm just into
fashion.. I create/design a lot of my own stuff too.

I bought 3 "Bleeding Edge Goth Dolls" for $24.99. Normally, you pay that
much for 1!

http://www.blacktoybox.com/dollsgoth.html

Those are cool.

Oh....I do tend to go off topic!

Ah me too...Just above I mentioned shoes.. lol!

Anyway, we would adjust the value of the certificate according to the
cost of living.

Much better idea.

This program would dramatically
reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding
and clothing the unwanted children
born each year in the US. These
children are destined to a life of
poverty and crime in an endless cycle
and usually end up in jail which is also
paid for with taxes.

...Or the kids born could strive that much
harder to break the cycle of poverty and
crime in which they were raised. Stating
it as a matter of fact that these kids will
usually end up in jail is too broad of a
generalization. A lot of kids see their
parents' mistakes growing up and want
to be the complete *opposite* of what
they were exposed to. And these kids
have the advantage of having "lived and
learned" the hard way.. which in turn
will make them work harder towards
their goals; and grow to help others in
situations that they themselves were
once in. Knowledge is power. And what
doesn't kill ya makes ya stronger.

If only that were the reality.

It is for some.

If that were true for the majority then
the cycles would be broken already. They need an awful lot of help and
some pushing because everybody isn't as strong or determined as say "You
and I" are.

Nope, all certainly aren't. But in my view everyone deserves a
chance. What kind of self-esteem will these kids feel if they hear:
"Well they're being raised in poverty on welfare by a young mother, no
father - so those types usually end up in jail."
Some great minds have been dismissed throughout history.. let's just
hope we don't lose anymore because of social stigma and pre-conceived
notions. Let's hope they have a mentor, a teacher, someone, anyone to
tell them they *are* worth it - they *are* smart - and they *can* rise
above.
When you're at the bottom...the only place to look is up.

Just my little shine of optimism on the
subject.
Did you hear about the little girl who was
raised by a heroin junkie mother then
went on to be a Harvard Graduate?

And that is a success story that is rare but not unheard of. I know
somebody who adopted 4 bi-racial children (now age 15 to 19) who's
mother was on crack all through out her pregnancies and their story is
not turning out so well. Even though they were placed with loving
parents who raised them, they have all been arrested at least once, one
has been placed in a juvenile psych-center and the oldest is serving
time and has had a baby which has been placed with adoptive parents.
They are all on medication and I guess you would say 2 of them are
mildly retarded.

And it happens all too often and it's heart-breaking. And
unfortunately our little discussion here on apn - throwing
ideas back and forth isn't going to stop it from happening again
again and again. I wish I had the magic answers and I'm sure
you do too. But we don't. The "wanna save the world" in me
wants to see the best in everyone; wants everyone to know that
there's something special in them.. there's *strength* in them that
they aren't even aware of until it's time to be shown. I want them
to know that they have the opportunity to perservere through the
obstacles that they were raised in.
Again, that's my optimism and my wish. But like you said, it's not
always reality.
So what do we do? Have we come up with any conclusive plans and
ideas? Not really.
Maybe we compliment each other though, Susan.. you harden me up and
show me more of the bad - I'll soften you up and show you more of the
good .. :)

This program will give young teens a
better shot at their own life if they can
finish growing up before they are
forced to raise a child.

Agreed. But be prepared for rebellion.
Teens love to test the waters and defy
authority.

Yes we do! They, I meant they! ;)

All too many are teens in adult bodies .. ;)

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can
think of for the moment. I might add
more later.

Not bad. Just throwin' back a few
rebuttals you might get if you were to run
for office .. ;)

I can *just* imagine what I would get. And so I withdraw from the
imaginary race.

Don't worry.. I don't think anyone in our day and age can conquer
these problems properly. We can provide them with the knowledge and
the resources - but it's up to the individual to choose his/her path.

Besides, I quite *love* my current position and I'm already living in a
white house! ;)

And not only that.. you have the *hardest* job out there - you're a
parent! Two little lives depend on you. You *ARE* the commander in
chief in your White House.. :)
Dani

sUSAn

.
User: "Woodswun"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... (nevermind) 21 Feb 2004 07:37:15 PM
In article <bn8f30lqut8bh228duv47ditl46st5v9gd@4ax.com>, Dani <dani7200@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 17:36:18 -0500 (EST),


(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote:

I started this last night and wasn't able to get back with it until now.

Dani wrote:


"Hey, sure, don't use a condom - I can
get an abortion for free."


You wouldn't get but *one* free. If you screw up again........we send
your slutty- ***** of to military school for sluts! (just kidding...sort
of)


You didn't mention it was a one shot deal ("one free pass") so to
speak. So one free abortion - then if they get pg again they gotta
pay the $$$ dough?

I think that in order to get a "free" anything after getting pregnant, they
should be required to watch a live birth in the delivery room, in 3-D
gore-o-rama, no earplugs.
Woods
.




User: "wacko jacko 2004"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 10:11:08 PM
Universal Health Care
Shelter for *all* homeless peoples in America
Increase "wealth tax" on peoples earning over $100,000 per annum......
$100,000 per year is all anyone needs.....to earn more than that is
greedy and excessive so it should be highly taxed.......
Repatriate all Wailing Wall headbangers & land-thieving fence-builders
back to the ME......
Uncle Wally
============================================================================
tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<7045-403235A6-576@storefull-3216.bay.webtv.net>...

If I were president, I would:

Make abortions available at *no charge* for low income families.

I would have a "Young Women and Teens" mobile healthcare unit which
would come to public housing and other designated areas twice a week to
offer free pregnancy testing, counselling, birth control shots, IUD's,
condoms and STD testing and treatment.

I would have free condom dispensing machines placed next to the
newspaper vending machine at every McDonalds, KFC, Taco Bell, Burger
King and 7-11 stores across the US.

I would give a $10 gift certificate for every teen who came on time for
her monthly birth control shot which would be redeemable at various
local retail clothing stores.

This program would dramatically reduce the taxpayers cost of feeding and
clothing the unwanted children born each year in the US. These children
are destined to a life of poverty and crime in an endless cycle and
usually end up in jail which is also paid for with taxes.

This program will give young teens a better shot at their own life if
they can finish growing up before they are forced to raise a child.

Well, that's all the bright ideas I can think of for the moment. I might
add more later.

:)

sUSAn

.
User: "Grantland"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 10:32:01 PM
(wacko jacko 2004) wrote:

Universal Health Care

Shelter for *all* homeless peoples in America

Increase "wealth tax" on peoples earning over $100,000 per annum......

$100,000 per year is all anyone needs.....to earn more than that is
greedy and excessive so it should be highly taxed.......

wally
.
User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 17 Feb 2004 11:20:37 PM
(wacko
jacko 2004) wrote:
Universal Smell Care
Give Shelter to only the *really* smelly homeless American peoples all
the way over in Africa
Increase "smell tax" on really smelly peoples earning over $100,000 per
annum......
$100,000 per year is all anyone really smelly needs.....to earn more
than that is greedy and excessively smelly so it should be highly
taxed.......
sally
.
User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 06 Mar 2004 12:27:24 PM
(sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<20282-4032F625-610@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>...


sally

Teenage pregnancy rate in USA 'lowest levels ever recorded'... Developing...
.
User: "Michael Johnathan McDonald"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 06 Mar 2004 09:00:06 PM
(Michael Johnathan McDonald) wrote in message news:<dd3256f0.0403061027.4be24c00@posting.google.com>...

tugbertswife@webtv.net (sUSAn B Anthony) wrote in message news:<20282-4032F625-610@storefull-3213.bay.webtv.net>...


sally


Teenage pregnancy rate in USA 'lowest levels ever recorded'... Developing...

New York Times:

March 7, 2004
YOUNG LOVE, NEW CAUTION
More Teenagers Are Striving for Restraint
By NINA BERNSTEIN
The teenage pregnancy rate in America, which rose sharply between 1986
and 1991 to huge public alarm, has fallen steadily for a decade with
little fanfare

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/07/nyregion/07TEEN.html?ei=5065&en=4d800c16b5a0d9f4&ex=1079240400&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print&position=
.
User: "sUSAn B Anthony"

Title: Re: Would You Vote For Me For President If... 06 Mar 2004 10:46:08 PM

Michael wrote:
New York Times:
March 7, 2004
YOUNG LOVE, NEW CAUTION
More Teenagers Are Striving for
Restraint By NINA BERNSTEIN
The teenage pregnancy rate in America,
which rose sharply between 1986 and
1991 to huge public alarm, has fallen
steadily for a decade with little fanfare
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/07/nyre
gion/07TEEN.html?ei=5065&en=4d800c1
6b5a0d9f4&ex=1079240400&partner=MY
WAY&pagewanted=print&position=
Experts can rattle off a litany of possible
reasons for the turnaround: the fear of
AIDS, and the impact of
AIDS-prevention education; the
introduction of injectable forms of birth
control; changes in welfare policy and
crackdowns on fathers for child support;
the rise of a more religious and
conservative generation of teenagers;
an economic boom with more
opportunities; and an array of new youth
programs, especially those stressing
both abstinence and contraception.

And thanks to Clinton who taught the nation that oral sex isn't really
sex at all and will keep you faithful to your partner/spouse and most
importantly will keep you an *un* pregnant virgin.
This trend could also be effected by an increase in oral, anal and
homosexual sex, could it not?

Even advocates of these developments
agree that they cannot account for the
shift, or predict how long it will last.

"account for the shift" LOL!
Are they referring to a "pole shift"?
;)
"How long will it last"
Please, somebody stop me!
;)
sUSAn
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