X.66
Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh,
L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee:
Roy Reb auront un si faux antechrist,
Que les mettra trestout dans la meslee.
Line 1 - "par le règne de la mère riche"
Line 2 - "galles"
Line 3 - "Roy Robert I"
Verse translation
The London ruler through the rich mother's bed,
Shall through Wales, pacify the Scottish isle:
King Robert the first, so falsely anointed
Shall draw them all into the fray for awhile.
True to form, Nostradamus looks to the past to find a prophecy for the
future, since this quatrain is based on events that happenned in 1328,
when England was ruled by Roger Mortimer (a Welsh Lord) and Isabella,
(the wealthy mother of the young King Edward III).
In 1328, the English King Edward III, on the advice of the Welsh lord,
Roger Mortimer, agreed to a shameful peace that relinquished Scotland to
the Scots and the rebel king, Robert the Bruce (King Robert I). This
caused an outrage. The barons headed by Henry of Lancaster, believed
that Mortimer (who was King of England in all but name) had no right to
do such a thing. Consequently, Mortimer, taking Edward III with him,
attacked the lands of Lancaster. However, the young Edward III soon came
of age and overthrew both Isabella and Mortimer in a coup, thus
restoring the King's power in 1330.
Merlin the Magician
"As it once was so shall it be again, world without end"
[TEOTW: 27, Shelter from the Storm, 346]
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26 Feb 2006 03:56:21 PM |
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Down to Earth try dumb as dog *****!
LB
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:32:41 +0000, Merlin <merlin@no-spam.com>
wrote in part:
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X.66
Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh,
L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee:
Roy Reb auront un si faux antechrist,
Que les mettra trestout dans la meslee.
Line 1 - "par le règne de la mère riche"
Line 2 - "galles"
Line 3 - "Roy Robert I"
*
Granted that this verse is a good example of Nostradamus'
menaningful gobbledygook, but it is convoluted enough without
having to 'correct' the text to make it say what one wants it to
say. Unfortunately, that typical Brittish custom seems to have
been emulated. But it provides a splendid opportunity to show
that Nostradamus' texts are encyphered (as in cryptic anagrams,
remember?).
*
The first obvious clue to this cypher is the fact that lines 1
and 3 do not rhyme. If the text is encyphered, it doesn't matter.
*
The second obvious clue is the fact that Nostradamus spells the
word Amerique in his own special way. He makes it sound like a
German word. If the line is encyphered, it doesn't matter either.
*
The third obvious clue is that Nostradamus makes up words which
do not exist. In line 3, he treats us with the word Reb which is
a pure invention on his part. If the line is encyphered, it does
not matter what he puts in it. So, he puts anything in it.
*
As this very obscure verse refers to a very future event in his
prophecy, the Spring and Summer of 1939 to be precise, no wonder
the early commentators were unable to identify to what it refers.
Fortunately, in 1967, a French author did do so. As he messed up
his facts a little, I have since corrected him, but without
having to correct Nostradamus' text.
*
Let's take it piece by piece:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
--------------------------- L X V I. -------------------------
----------- Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh, ----------
----------- L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee: ------------
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
----------- Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee. ----------
*
Who is "le chef de Londres"? It can be one of three guys. The
Mayor of London, the Prime Minister of Great Britain, or the King
of England. How do we know that Nostradamus is speaking of the
King of England? We don't, unless we read further on:
*
"par regne" gives us his identity: during his reign (it is a
Latin form, per regnum) refers to the only guy of the three to
reign. So, Nostradamus is speaking of the King of England.
*
When did a reigning King of England first visit America? In the
Spring of 1939. This is line 1.
*
Line 2 obscurely speaks of that difficult trip made by the
Empress of Australia, bringing King George VI to Quebec City. She
was caught in the fog and ice of Northern Atlantic, delaying the
King for two days. An iceberg is an island, a floating island. An
iceberg coming from the North, can be said to be coming from
Scotland, as Scotland is to the north of England. So, this
iceberg makes the trip more difficult, and so does the fog.
*
Why does Nostradamus use a simple historical anecdote to point to
a much more important event? He does so all the time. Lines 1 and
2 are the anecdote, the King's trip to America, lines 3 and 4
refer to the real thing: World War II. Let's see how it works:
*
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
*
Here, this non existent word refers to France. How? Because we
know that in 1939 both England and France got such a false
antechrist who brought them all into battle. France? Yes. In
Latin, the Republic is REs puBlica. REB. Both the King (Roy) and
the Republic (Reb) got involved in war.
*
Line 4 merely refers to what ensued: all of Europe eventually got
involved in that War.
*
But this is merely an interpretation, an interpretation
originally made by Gaston Willoquet, published in 1967. Is there
a way to confirm this? If the text is not encyphered, no. If the
text is encyphered, yes. As the text is encyphered, we have a
confirmation of it:
*
---------- Le Roy Anglois part en Mer chercher des -----------
---------- alliés désespérément, car il songe ----------------
---------- à arrester Hitler, vn Tyran qui fonce -------------
---------- dès l'esté sur l'Europe, l'atacquant de SS. -------
*
We have the true reason for the King's trip to Canada and the US
in the Spring of 1939: to gather support for his coming war with
Hitler, who would pounce that very Summer upon Europe with his SS
troops.
*
There are, of course, a few idiots who persist in saying that the
decyphered text above is my own invention and not Nostradamus'
hidden prophecy. Let them say so.
*
They know that the decyphered text is in perfect French while the
encyphered text is in meaningful gobbledygook. (They know that
because they have to change it to make it say what they say it
says.)
*
They also know that the decyphered text has Nostradamus' spelling
(Roy, Anglois, arrester, vn, esté, atacquant), something which I
could have used had I been the author of the text, I agree. But
it also means that I am familiar enough with Nostradamus'
spelling to be able to find it.
*
Fortunately for me, the original interpretation of the poem came
from someone else in a book published in 1967, BEFORE I even
began studying Nostradamus' texts. That original interpretation
does indeed speak of America, before Peter Lemesurier even began
writing about Nostradamus' texts.
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Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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15 Apr 2006 03:40:37 PM |
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On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:32:41 +0000, Merlin <merlin@no-spam.com>,
also known as The Master, also known as Gary Somai, began a
series of posts (on topic, for a change) whose main theme
consists of disguising Nostradamus' prophecy into a tale from his
past, the theory behind this feat of British disinformation being
that Nostradamus was using events from his past as a template for
predicting future events.
*
Another Brittish fool, Peter Lemesurier, a.k.a., Peter Ewart
Britton, had begun a similar undertaking in this NewsGroup a few
years back, presumably with the same purpose in mind, i.e.,
discrediting at all cost Nostradamus' prophetic ability.
*
Assuming for one moment that Nostradamus really did use events
from his past for the purpose of predicting the future, it would
be incumbent upon those who make such an assertion to demonstrate
which events from his future Nostradamus was alluding to, when
describing his so-called 'template' from the past.
*
On this point, we are out of luck. The Master Merlin Gary Somai
etc. never posts any prophecy of the future by Nostradamus. Why?
Because there are no such prophecies, that's why. In other words,
Nostradamus spent the better part of his adult life publishing
some thirty books for no reason other than hoping that his texts
about the past would eventually fit a future event.
*
The funny thing about this point of view is that, for about 400
years, countless French commentators were able to, after the
fact, identify countless events from Nostradamus' future, and
described very obscurely in his poetry, too obscurely to have
been identified before they began to happen.
*
But that's not all. If a poem by Nostradamus looks too much like
a prophecy about his future, The Master Merlin Gary Somai etc.
promptly changes the text to make sure that the prophecy therein
disappears. This is what happened to quatrain X-66:
*
X.66
Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh,
L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee:
Roy Reb auront un si faux antechrist,
Que les mettra trestout dans la meslee.
*
Much too obvious, that one, to be left alone. So, The Master
Merlin Gary Somai makes the following changes, with the obvious
assistance of his daddy, the aforementioned Peter Lemesurier,
a.k.a., Peter Ewart Britton:
*
Line 1 - "par le règne de la mère riche"
Line 2 - "galles"
Line 3 - "Roy Robert I"
*
What happened to America? It disappeared.
What happened to the "gellee"? It melted.
What happened to the non existent word "Reb"? It became
something from Nostradamus' past.
*
Had the poster not altered the original texts and held the view
that they are a description from Nostradamus' past, that point of
view might have held water. After all, it does not really matter
if the originally published texts by Nostradamus are about the
past or the future, or about anything else, including recipes for
marmalade or cosmetics, the encyphered nature of these texts does
not change, and they still contain Nostradamus' secret.
*
There is, however, an obsession inherent in the systematic denial
of Nostradamus' texts: First, Nostradamus must never be seen to
be predicting the future. Second: Anything in Nostradamus' texts
even remotely suggesting that he foresaw the future must be
eliminated from the text and replaced with something else.
*
This Brittish disinformation must have a purpose. Unfortunately,
we are not being told what this purpose is. All we are being
asked to do is to swallow, hook, line and sinker, that Brittish
*****.
*
To demonstrate that The Master Merlin Gary Somai etc. is nothing
but a literary fraud, here is a short course in French.
*
One subject calls for a verb in the singular. Two subjects call
for a verb in the plural form. Let's look at line 3 again:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
--------------------------- L X V I. -------------------------
----------- Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh, ----------
----------- L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee: ------------
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
----------- Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee. ----------
*
The first subject in line 3 is "Roy" (the king); the second
subject is this non-existent word "Reb". Both produce a verb in
the plural form "auront".
*
When the Brittish disinformation specialists are through messing
up this verse, the two subjects are merged into one, i.e., into
"Roy Robert I" (see above). Which is King Robert I.
*
The same stupidity was visited upon line 2, so as to create a
reference to Wales (le pays de Galles), whereas Nostradamus is
merely speaking of fog, frost and ice (gellee).
*
And the worst stupidity of all was in line 1, where the name of
America was erased and replaced with a rich mother or, according
to the King of Disinformation, the aforementioned Peter Ewart
Britton, a.k.a., Peter Lemesurier, a rich lady.
*
Neither Briton, the moron Merlin nor his daddy, would allow their
readers to see that Nostradamus truly was predicting his future,
by using an anecdote (the only visit ever made to America by a
British King during his reign) to announce the start of World War
II.
*
In 1967, a French author named Gaston Willoquet did describe in
some detail that royal journey, which brought George VI to shore
in Quebec city two days later than scheduled, due to the icebergs
and fog which his ship, the Empress of Australia, encountered in
the Northern Atlantic during his difficult trip.
*
So, next time you read anything even remotely resembling a claim
to a 'down to earth' interpretation, beware!
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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16 Apr 2006 06:40:15 AM |
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Mr CLueless wrote:
Assuming for one moment that Nostradamus really did use events
from his past for the purpose of predicting the future, it would
be incumbent upon those who make such an assertion to demonstrate
which events from his future Nostradamus was alluding to, when
describing his so-called 'template' from the past.
Duh! - Since it is pretty much well established that Nostradamus used
*his* past as a template for predicting the future, it is actually
incumbent upon those who accuse Nostradamus of having successfully done
so, to demonstrate this.
I personally have yet to see any REAL evidence to support this
accusation.
Although, my son, I have used the word prophet, I would not attribute
to myself a title of such lofty sublimity -Preface to C=E9sar, 1555
Not that I would attribute to myself either the name or the role of a
prophet -Preface to C=E9sar, 1555
Some [of the prophets] predicted great and marvelous things to come:
[though] for me, I in no way attribute to myself such a title here.
-Letter to King Henri II, 1558
I do but make bold to predict (not that I guarantee the slightest thing
at all), thanks to my researches and the consideration of what judicial
Astrology promises me and sometimes gives me to know, principally in
the form of warnings, so that folk may know that with which the
celestial stars do threaten them. Not that I am foolish enough to
pretend to be a prophet. -Open letter to Privy Councillor (later
Chancellor) Birague, 15 June 1566
sid quando submovenda erit ignorantia (until the time comes for the
removal of ignorance) - Preface to C=E9sar, 1555
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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16 Apr 2006 08:39:35 AM |
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On 16 Apr 2006 04:40:15 -0700, "Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
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Mr CLueless wrote:
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No, Gary, here is what was written:
*
On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:32:41 +0000, Merlin <merlin@no-spam.com>,
also known as The Master, also known as Gary Somai, began a
series of posts (on topic, for a change) whose main theme
consists of disguising Nostradamus' prophecy into a tale from his
past, the theory behind this feat of British disinformation being
that Nostradamus was using events from his past as a template for
predicting future events.
*
Another Brittish fool, Peter Lemesurier, a.k.a., Peter Ewart
Britton, had begun a similar undertaking in this NewsGroup a few
years back, presumably with the same purpose in mind, i.e.,
discrediting at all cost Nostradamus' prophetic ability.
*
Assuming for one moment that Nostradamus really did use events
from his past for the purpose of predicting the future, it would
be incumbent upon those who make such an assertion to demonstrate
which events from his future Nostradamus was alluding to, when
describing his so-called 'template' from the past.
*
On this point, we are out of luck. The Master Merlin Gary Somai
etc. never posts any prophecy of the future by Nostradamus. Why?
Because there are no such prophecies, that's why. In other words,
Nostradamus spent the better part of his adult life publishing
some thirty books for no reason other than hoping that his texts
about the past would eventually fit a future event.
*
The funny thing about this point of view is that, for about 400
years, countless French commentators were able to, after the
fact, identify countless events from Nostradamus' future, and
described very obscurely in his poetry, too obscurely to have
been identified before they began to happen.
*
But that's not all. If a poem by Nostradamus looks too much like
a prophecy about his future, The Master Merlin Gary Somai etc.
promptly changes the text to make sure that the prophecy therein
disappears. This is what happened to quatrain X-66:
*
X.66
Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh,
L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee:
Roy Reb auront un si faux antechrist,
Que les mettra trestout dans la meslee.
*
Much too obvious, that one, to be left alone. So, The Master
Merlin Gary Somai makes the following changes, with the obvious
assistance of his daddy, the aforementioned Peter Lemesurier,
a.k.a., Peter Ewart Britton:
*
Line 1 - "par le règne de la mère riche"
Line 2 - "galles"
Line 3 - "Roy Robert I"
*
What happened to America? It disappeared.
What happened to the "gellee"? It melted.
What happened to the non existent word "Reb"? It became
something from Nostradamus' past.
*
Had the poster not altered the original texts and held the view
that they are a description from Nostradamus' past, that point of
view might have held water. After all, it does not really matter
if the originally published texts by Nostradamus are about the
past or the future, or about anything else, including recipes for
marmalade or cosmetics, the encyphered nature of these texts does
not change, and they still contain Nostradamus' secret.
*
There is, however, an obsession inherent in the systematic denial
of Nostradamus' texts: First, Nostradamus must never be seen to
be predicting the future. Second: Anything in Nostradamus' texts
even remotely suggesting that he foresaw the future must be
eliminated from the text and replaced with something else.
*
This Brittish disinformation must have a purpose. Unfortunately,
we are not being told what this purpose is. All we are being
asked to do is to swallow, hook, line and sinker, that Brittish
*****.
*
To demonstrate that The Master Merlin Gary Somai etc. is nothing
but a literary fraud, here is a short course in French.
*
One subject calls for a verb in the singular. Two subjects call
for a verb in the plural form. Let's look at line 3 again:
*
--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
*
--------------------------- L X V I. -------------------------
----------- Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh, ----------
----------- L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee: ------------
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
----------- Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee. ----------
*
The first subject in line 3 is "Roy" (the king); the second
subject is this non-existent word "Reb". Both produce a verb in
the plural form "auront".
*
When the Brittish disinformation specialists are through messing
up this verse, the two subjects are merged into one, i.e., into
"Roy Robert I" (see above). Which is King Robert I.
*
The same stupidity was visited upon line 2, so as to create a
reference to Wales (le pays de Galles), whereas Nostradamus is
merely speaking of fog, frost and ice (gellee).
*
And the worst stupidity of all was in line 1, where the name of
America was erased and replaced with a rich mother or, according
to the King of Disinformation, the aforementioned Peter Ewart
Britton, a.k.a., Peter Lemesurier, a rich lady.
*
Neither Briton, the moron Merlin nor his daddy, would allow their
readers to see that Nostradamus truly was predicting his future,
by using an anecdote (the only visit ever made to America by a
British King during his reign) to announce the start of World War
II.
*
In 1967, a French author named Gaston Willoquet did describe in
some detail that royal journey, which brought George VI to shore
in Quebec city two days later than scheduled, due to the icebergs
and fog which his ship, the Empress of Australia, encountered in
the Northern Atlantic during his difficult trip.
*
So, next time you read anything even remotely resembling a claim
to a 'down to earth' interpretation, beware!
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
*
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[end of quote]
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Now, you were saying?
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Duh! - Since it is pretty much well established that Nostradamus used
*his* past as a template for predicting the future, it is actually
incumbent upon those who accuse Nostradamus of having successfully done
so, to demonstrate this.
I personally have yet to see any REAL evidence to support this
accusation.
Although, my son, I have used the word prophet, I would not attribute
to myself a title of such lofty sublimity -Preface to César, 1555
Not that I would attribute to myself either the name or the role of a
prophet -Preface to César, 1555
Some [of the prophets] predicted great and marvelous things to come:
[though] for me, I in no way attribute to myself such a title here.
-Letter to King Henri II, 1558
I do but make bold to predict (not that I guarantee the slightest thing
at all), thanks to my researches and the consideration of what judicial
Astrology promises me and sometimes gives me to know, principally in
the form of warnings, so that folk may know that with which the
celestial stars do threaten them. Not that I am foolish enough to
pretend to be a prophet. -Open letter to Privy Councillor (later
Chancellor) Birague, 15 June 1566
sid quando submovenda erit ignorantia (until the time comes for the
removal of ignorance) - Preface to César, 1555
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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You seem to have forgotten something, Gary: you forgot to speak
about quatrain X-66, which was the subject matter of this thread.
*
You can quote to me anything Nostradamus wrote or, to be more
precise, anything Peter Lemesurier, a.k.a. Peter Ewart Britton,
says Nostradamus actually wrote, it won't change a thing, as I
have read (because I *can* read it, no need of a Lemesurier to
translate it for me) most of it.
*
You were saying?
*
Duh! - Since it is pretty much well established that Nostradamus used
*his* past as a template for predicting the future, it is actually
incumbent upon those who accuse Nostradamus of having successfully done
so, to demonstrate this.
I personally have yet to see any REAL evidence to support this
accusation.
*
Yes, I know that, as I almost quoted that from one of your
previous posts to illustrate how stupid you are. You did not get
the point. So, here it is in a nutshell:
*
When you see REAL evidence of a REAL prophecy by Nostradamus, YOU
(or your daddy, Lemesurier) change the text, to make the prophecy
disappear. If YOU think that's brilliant, I don't. I think it is
stupid.
*
If you were to hold the same view about Nostradamus describing
his past as a template for predicting the future without changing
his texts to suit your fantasy, I would have more respect for
what you write.
*
But you can't help it. Brind'Amour did the same thing.
Lemesurier did the same thing. You all have to change the text to
make his prophecies disappear.
*
He does not call himself a prophet? Who cares? He was a prophet,
but an intelligent one, who was not about to commit heresy in the
eyes of his contemporaries to please people like you.
*
You quoted me some of his texts? So what? You are too clueless
(an interesting case of projection) to see that the published
texts you are quoting me (the Letter to César and the Letter to
Henry) are encyphered.
*
Ah, yes, you make fun of that idea. As you can't even read the
goddamned originals, and as you have to trust Peter Lemesurier
that they are not encyphered, because you can't tell otherwise,
why don't you ask your daddy to come back to this NewsGroup to
defend directly his own ideas, without using a proxy for so
doing?
*
That would be out of character for the British to do, I know, as
they are a devious bunch who can only 'win' if they bend the very
rules they have established, especially those in the military.
And the retired military are the worst, as they have plenty of
time on their hands to spread their disinformation.
*
In this NewsGroup, we have grown accustomed to this long ago.
*
So, Gary, next time you write about what I wrote, make sure not
to forget what I was writing about. You can't contradict a thing
about what I wrote on quatrain X-66, that's why you 'forgot' to
write about it. That too is not very smart. It shows that you
take your cues from Peter Lemesurier. That is not very smart
either.
*
Have a nice day, folks!
*
Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
*
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16 Apr 2006 10:41:56 AM |
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Mr CLueless still can't see the wood from the trees!
But if he thinks I'm going to wipe his arse after his verbal diarrhea,
then he's got another thing coming!
However, for the benefit of those who can see the wood from the
trees...
On the subject of adding a *supplement* to the quatrains..
In the 16th century, the compositors in their Printing houses would set
their type by *dictation* from a second compositor, rather than copying
it directly from the original written works, which tended to turn the
printed words into a game of Chinese Whispers. Hence the phonetic sound
of *par r=E8gne la m=E8re riche* in X.66, so easily becomes interpreted
as *par regne l'Americh*, especially since the newly discovered
continent of America was, at that time, very much on the mind of
everyone.
Also, apart from the fact that on their own the quatrains baffled N's
contemporaries because they were obscure and ungrammaticised, imagine
what they must have been like for the already stressed out Printers!
Not withstanding the use of padding to force the rhyme at the end of
each line of verse.
But heck, all of these facts are conveniently overlooked by Mr
CLueless, no doubt because it blows another big hole into his already
failed cryptic anagram theory.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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16 Apr 2006 01:49:45 PM |
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Merlin wrote:
On the subject of adding a *supplement* to the quatrains..
In the 16th century, the compositors in their Printing houses would set
their type by *dictation* from a second compositor, rather than copying
it directly from the original written works, which tended to turn the
printed words into a game of Chinese Whispers. Hence the phonetic sound
of *par r=E8gne la m=E8re riche* in X.66, so easily becomes interpreted
as *par regne l'Americh*, especially since the newly discovered
continent of America was, at that time, very much on the mind of
everyone.
And to impress on the point concerning 16th century Printing methods...
See http://ise.uvic.ca/Library/SLT/literature/problems.html
Merlin
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16 Apr 2006 01:53:38 PM |
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On 16 Apr 2006 08:41:56 -0700, "Merlin" <merlin2rhyme@yahoo.co.uk>
also known as The Master Gary Somai etc., attempted once again to
destroy quatrain X-66 by denying its prophetic nature.
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Mr CLueless still can't see the wood from the trees!
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As can be seen, Mr. CLueless has seen more clues to the
encyphered nature of quatrain X-66 than The Master Merlin Gary
Somai etc. ever did.
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--------------- C E N T V R I E___D I X I E S M E. -----------
------------------ (édition prétendue de 1568) ---------------
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--------------------------- L X V I. -------------------------
----------- Le chef de Londres par regne l'Americh, ----------
----------- L'isle d'Escosse tempiera par gellee: ------------
----------- Roy Reb auront vn si faux antechrist, ------------
----------- Que les mettra trestous dans la meslee. ----------
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Don't you see, unfathomable idiot, that Nostradamus wanted his
readers to eventually see that his texts were encyphered by using
non-existent words (Reb), by creating poetry which did not rhyme
(l'Americh/antechrist), and countless other devices which only
ignoramuses insist they can't see.
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You, on the other hand, are merely peddling the Lemesurier *****,
without even thinking about that which you are peddling. You
repeat the idiocy about Chinese Whispers (Lemesurier wrote that)
rather than asking yourself: if Lemesurier's comment about
Chinese whispers is true, how come then lines 1 and 3 do not
rhyme?
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Even if you substitute the silly "dame riche", or your sillier
"la mère riche" to the printed expression "l'Americh", you can't
possibly make it rhyme with "antechrist".
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And it does not rhyme, Mr. Clueless, because it is not supposed
to rhyme. And the reason why it is not supposed to rhyme is that
it is encyphered. You may laugh at the idea, but you and your
daddy Lemesurier have never been able to explain why these lines
do not rhyme. Can't blame the printer, here, because the printer
printed exactly what Nostradamus wanted to be printed.
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You are repeating (or plagiarizing, as you do not indicate that
you are repeating what Lemesurier states) the same silly nonsense
about 16th Century Chinese Whispers. Funny that the printers
would have been hard of hearing only in Nostradamus' case but not
for his detractors, whose books were printed almost flawlessly.
How do you explain that, Mr. Clueless?
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I even have a better one for you. The silly scenario of Chinese
Whispers presupposes that Nostradamus never had a chance to
proof-read his books before they were given the "achevé
d'imprimer". Don't make a fool of yourself by attempting to reply
to this one, Gary. Lemesurier made a fool of himself by stating
that Nostradamus did not proof-read his books because he lived in
Salon and his printers were in Lyon. (Lemesurier did not like the
idea that the printers were conveying the printed job to
Nostradamus via... the post. Took too much time, he said.)
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The word America was never spelled "Americh" in French. This
weird spelling suggests a Germanic ending (-ich). The expression
"l'Americh" suggests something even more remarkable, Gary, as the
German word REICH is a perfect anagram of this -ERICH ending. And
as the person referred to in lines 3 and 4 is now known to be
Adolf Hitler, the one who would force the British King (Roy) and
the French Republic (REs puBlica - Reb) to wage a war in which
almost all of Europe would eventually be involved, it just so
happens that the two expressions which do not rhyme in lines 1
and 3 make up an extraordinary cryptic anagram:
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LAMERICH ANTECHRIST = REICHMANN IST A HITLER.
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Which seems to suggest that this 'so false antichrist' (Hitler
was not an antichrist, whIch is exactly what Nostradamus is
saying) was truly the REICHFÜHRER.
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[...]
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But heck, all of these facts are conveniently overlooked by Mr
CLueless, no doubt because it blows another big hole into his already
failed cryptic anagram theory.
Merlin
http://www.placeoftheskull.com
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Methinks, Gary, that you were not wise in using quatrain X-66 for
your first recent attempt to subvert Nostradamus' prophecies,
back in February, as it did blow quite a hole in your contention
that Nostradamus did not predict the future.
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And if you have balls, and are not merely a British piece of
literary garbage, you shall explain to your readers how come a
singular noun (Roy Robert I = Roy Reb) can command a plural verb
(auront) in line 3.
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Even though the word "Reb" does not exist in French, its very
obscure meaning was revealed to the world in September 1939 when
both France and Britain, united in a Treaty to defend Poland if
she were attacked, had to declare War on Germany.
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That, Mr. Clueless, is what Nostradamus was writing about in
quatrain X-66, using the anecdote of the only royal visit to
America by a reigning British King in the first two lines, a
Spring 1939 event, to announce the start of that World War, in
the Summer of 1939.
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Have a nice day, folks!
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Claude Latrémouille
http://web.ncf.ca/cj559
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: X.66 - The down to earth version |
16 Apr 2006 01:27:07 PM |
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This idiot Lemesurier continues with his nonsense to his very end......
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